"george bush doesn't care about black people"

ihateschoolmt · 09-02-2005, 09:16 PM

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79 Kanye West on live TV last night.

The Monkey Man · 09-02-2005, 09:17 PM

You're probably right...

He's an elitist buttwad

TJ Cline · 09-02-2005, 09:19 PM

George Bush dosent give a shit about any person who is worth less than
30 million dollars.

min0 lee · 09-02-2005, 09:34 PM

Did he really mean that? Who is he anyway?

min0 lee · 09-02-2005, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Kanye West Ruins Relief Show

(JND) - In a selfish and
unprofessional move, Kanye
West used a Red Cross
benefit to benefit his own
personal platform Friday
night during the NBC
Hurricane Katrina Relief
program.

Juicee News has found a
video of Kanye West
during his rant.

In a disgusting display, West strayed from his prepared script to offer an overflow of hatred from his mouth, taking the spotlight off of the matter at hand, turning the relief program into his own personal soapbox. Whether or not anyone agrees with Mr. West... it was clear that now was not the time to voice such harsh opinions

Just before being cut by NBC executives, West stated: "George Bush doesn't care about black people."

West appeared on-screen with comedian Mike Myers, who was obviously shaken by West's remarks. At one point Myers attempted to put an end to the tirade.

NBC beat him to the punch, cutting to a shot of actor Chris Tucker.

Other comments by West: "They're saying black families are looting and white families are just looking for food...they're giving the (Army) permission to shoot us..."

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Not the right time.

Tough Old Man · 09-02-2005, 09:37 PM

If the posted staement is true, then why is Ms. Rice on his staff?

min0 lee · 09-02-2005, 09:39 PM

LOL, did you see the look on Chris Tucker.

min0 lee · 09-02-2005, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

If the posted staement is true, then why is Ms. Rice on his staff?

She's black?

itbestuk · 09-02-2005, 09:45 PM

This was a natural disaster but unlike the tsunami this disaster was expected and forecast, it was also a natural disaster which was happening to a country with a strong infrastructure and excellent resources. We are used of seeing places such as Africa falling apart when a natural disaster strikes but the USA should have the ability to prepare and deploy a strategy for before and after the event. This didn’t happen it looks like the people with money made there own way out of the area and those who were poor (black or white) just stayed and died.

Governments only react to risks when a risk becomes an issue and never before.

Governments (Blair/bush) say they care about us and that they have our best interests at heart, they don’t!

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 09:46 PM

Yeah, maybe we need to shed some light on this.

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 09:51 PM

Getting rewarded by society for it..

itbestuk · 09-02-2005, 10:06 PM

It’s evident that the majority of the lower class in the US is made up of black people; this lower class is normally also a hidden class until things like this happen and they become apparent.
Bush will be seem relating to these people over the next few months until an opportunity arises to brush all this under the political carpet.

Bush sees this class as a problem and not as good tax payers,

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 10:10 PM

Do you know Bush?

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 10:10 PM

I mean, have you spoken to him in his lifetime concerning what he thinks and about issues of race and the lower class?

itbestuk · 09-02-2005, 10:17 PM

You don’t need to speak or know a person to understand how governments view and treat there lower classes; it is situations like this when it all becomes apparent.

What a politician say shouldn’t be taken a there view you should judge them on there actions, and currently there actions are very poor.

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 10:25 PM

Thats cool, how many states or cities have you governed in your lifetime? Just so I know

min0 lee · 09-02-2005, 10:26 PM

itbestuk · 09-02-2005, 10:40 PM

My opinions are formed purely from my understanding on how governments work.
I have the advantage of not working for the government as then I can make unbiased, informed judgments, unlike some people.

and only the two Cities, but I chat with Tony now and then.....

I see you opened a "Political Bushwhacking Thread" are you into current affairs

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itbestuk

My opinions are formed purely from my understanding on how governments work.
I have the advantage of not working for the government as then I can make unbiased, informed judgments, unlike some people.

By unbiased you mean that you've never worked for the government, you don't understand the intricacies outside of what the television tells you, and have personally never encountered any people that have expressed to you what you are passing on to everyone else?

Is this what you're implying by the above statement?

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 10:49 PM

No, I'm trying to keep the political dialogue to a limited space so that the rest of the threads can be of use. It seems when politics gets involved that things get bogged down. Some people trash a person.. other people defend him, and it goes on and on.

kbm8795 · 09-02-2005, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggs

By unbiased you mean that you've never worked for the government, you don't understand the intricacies outside of what the television tells you, and have personally never encountered any people that have expressed to you what you are passing on to everyone else?

Is this what you're implying by the above statement?

And, of course, you are expecting his opinion to be more qualified than your own?

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbm8795

And, of course, you are expecting his opinion to be more qualified than your own?

Why of course, if he sees fit to sit around criticizing something... then I expect him to be able to:
1. argue it rationally.
2. back up what he's saying.

Some people expect more than just bigotry. It might work for you... but I'm not satisfied with it.

itbestuk · 09-02-2005, 11:00 PM

I try not to be a news media junky you find that the news companies have there own agenda when it comes to reporting the facts, I try to feed of article of peoples own experience I find BBC Radio 4 very good for reporting the facts and also putting politicians in the hot seat. But at the end of the day I think all this information needs to be taken with a pinch of salt and you need to form your own opinions from the diluted reports which reach us thought all our available mediums

its 5am so I getting some sleep, laters

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 11:07 PM

Exactly itbe. You've definitely got it spot on about not letting the news and other people form your ideas for you.

The problem here exists in a simple inductive logical fallacy. Its called Hasty Induction. Basically what this says is that we form an opinion with too little information. And really, thats what we have. All these people that have problems with Bush personally about this little thing or that little thing... its near impossible to draw a full conclusion like "Bush doesn't care about the poor" and what not from examples which we could very well bias anyways with our own beliefs.

Which is one of the reasons why I defend Bush. It is too easy for people to misjudge someone given the limited amount of information that we have available to us (and the biases it is filtered through). Especially in situations like the current one, we need to be more willing to help and stop our personal attacks against people because at this present time its benefiting no one. Later on people can and should have logical discussions about the activities that took place, and who did not meet expectations. But character assassination right now? This just isnt the time for it

kbm8795 · 09-02-2005, 11:35 PM

Gosh . . .if we'd all just learn so much more from your obvious example.

kbm8795 · 09-02-2005, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggs

Why of course, if he sees fit to sit around criticizing something... then I expect him to be able to:
1. argue it rationally.
2. back up what he's saying.

Some people expect more than just bigotry. It might work for you... but I'm not satisfied with it.

Have you always held others to higher standards than those you expect of yourself?

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbm8795

Have you always held others to higher standards than those you expect of yourself?

No you fucking psycho lunatic, I haven't.

Tell me, can your mind comprehend anything besides venomous anti-Bush attacks, or is thats all thats left of it?

DOMS · 09-02-2005, 11:46 PM

Blacks don't give a shit about themselves, why should anyone else?

DOMS · 09-02-2005, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by min0 lee

All that popcorn is gonna make you fat min0!

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfs3

Blacks don't give a shit about themselves, why should anyone else?

I wouldn't particularily say its blacks.. I'd say most inner city folk, and there are whites included in that. People need to start caring more about their lives and taking responsibility for it.

09-02-2005, 09:16 PM	#1
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itbestuk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK / Birmingham Posts: 126	It’s evident that the majority of the lower class in the US is made up of black people; this lower class is normally also a hidden class until things like this happen and they become apparent. Bush will be seem relating to these people over the next few months until an opportunity arises to brush all this under the political carpet. Bush sees this class as a problem and not as good tax payers, Last edited by itbestuk : 09-02-2005 at 10:18 PM.

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09-02-2005, 09:19 PM	#3
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,545	George Bush dosent give a shit about any person who is worth less than 30 million dollars.

09-02-2005, 09:34 PM	#4
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	Did he really mean that? Who is he anyway?

09-02-2005, 09:37 PM	#6
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	If the posted staement is true, then why is Ms. Rice on his staff?

09-02-2005, 09:39 PM	#7
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	LOL, did you see the look on Chris Tucker.

09-02-2005, 09:45 PM	#9
itbestuk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK / Birmingham Posts: 126	This was a natural disaster but unlike the tsunami this disaster was expected and forecast, it was also a natural disaster which was happening to a country with a strong infrastructure and excellent resources. We are used of seeing places such as Africa falling apart when a natural disaster strikes but the USA should have the ability to prepare and deploy a strategy for before and after the event. This didn’t happen it looks like the people with money made there own way out of the area and those who were poor (black or white) just stayed and died. Governments only react to risks when a risk becomes an issue and never before. Governments (Blair/bush) say they care about us and that they have our best interests at heart, they don’t!

09-02-2005, 10:10 PM	#13
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Do you know Bush?

09-02-2005, 10:17 PM	#15
itbestuk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK / Birmingham Posts: 126	You don’t need to speak or know a person to understand how governments view and treat there lower classes; it is situations like this when it all becomes apparent. What a politician say shouldn’t be taken a there view you should judge them on there actions, and currently there actions are very poor.

09-02-2005, 10:25 PM	#16
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Thats cool, how many states or cities have you governed in your lifetime? Just so I know

09-02-2005, 10:26 PM	#17
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542

09-02-2005, 10:40 PM	#18
itbestuk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK / Birmingham Posts: 126	My opinions are formed purely from my understanding on how governments work. I have the advantage of not working for the government as then I can make unbiased, informed judgments, unlike some people. and only the two Cities, but I chat with Tony now and then..... I see you opened a "Political Bushwhacking Thread" are you into current affairs

09-02-2005, 10:49 PM	#20
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	No, I'm trying to keep the political dialogue to a limited space so that the rest of the threads can be of use. It seems when politics gets involved that things get bogged down. Some people trash a person.. other people defend him, and it goes on and on.

09-02-2005, 11:00 PM	#23
itbestuk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK / Birmingham Posts: 126	I try not to be a news media junky you find that the news companies have there own agenda when it comes to reporting the facts, I try to feed of article of peoples own experience I find BBC Radio 4 very good for reporting the facts and also putting politicians in the hot seat. But at the end of the day I think all this information needs to be taken with a pinch of salt and you need to form your own opinions from the diluted reports which reach us thought all our available mediums its 5am so I getting some sleep, laters

09-02-2005, 11:07 PM	#24
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Exactly itbe. You've definitely got it spot on about not letting the news and other people form your ideas for you. The problem here exists in a simple inductive logical fallacy. Its called Hasty Induction. Basically what this says is that we form an opinion with too little information. And really, thats what we have. All these people that have problems with Bush personally about this little thing or that little thing... its near impossible to draw a full conclusion like "Bush doesn't care about the poor" and what not from examples which we could very well bias anyways with our own beliefs. Which is one of the reasons why I defend Bush. It is too easy for people to misjudge someone given the limited amount of information that we have available to us (and the biases it is filtered through). Especially in situations like the current one, we need to be more willing to help and stop our personal attacks against people because at this present time its benefiting no one. Later on people can and should have logical discussions about the activities that took place, and who did not meet expectations. But character assassination right now? This just isnt the time for it

09-02-2005, 11:35 PM	#25
kbm8795 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,367 Photos: 1	Gosh . . .if we'd all just learn so much more from your obvious example.

09-02-2005, 11:46 PM	#28
DOMS Metrosexual Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 22,092 Photos: 1	Blacks don't give a shit about themselves, why should anyone else?