Is helping a selfish activity?

Vieope · 09-14-2005, 08:11 PM

I helped somebody today and I felt kinda good. Is this why people do it?
I think I wil give one more try in this helping thing..

**Prince** · 09-14-2005, 08:13 PM

everything we do is selfish, just as you said helping someone has a selfish ulterior motive, it makes you feel good.

Var · 09-14-2005, 08:13 PM

Its definiltey selfish in some ways. Ever see that episode of Friends where Pheobe tries to do something truely selfless, but cant because it always makes her feel good?

min0 lee · 09-14-2005, 08:14 PM

Did you get any you know what out of it?

Var · 09-14-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Did you get any you know what out of it?

Vieope · 09-14-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

everything we do is selfish, just as you said helping someone has a selfish ulterior motive, it makes you feel good.

Vieope · 09-14-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Var

Its definiltey selfish in some ways. Ever see that episode of Friends where Pheobe tries to do something truely selfless, but cant because it always makes her feel good?

Oh yeah, I remember that. I didnt know you liked friends.

Vieope · 09-14-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Did you get any you know what out of it?

You ask questions so properly.

Var · 09-14-2005, 08:18 PM

I like lots of really gay stuff, Vieope.

Vieope · 09-14-2005, 08:20 PM

Chain Link will be here shortly.

Vieope · 09-14-2005, 08:23 PM

About the helping, is it because we look good being good and it feeds our ego because we do these preconvceived notions of goodness or because it is a natural instinct and we associate with the people we are helping like they are ourselves in a different scenario?

Chain Link · 09-14-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Var

I like lots of really gay stuff, Vieope.

Dear Var,
Im glad to SEE you have embraced that "forbidden word" and no longer fear being OUTCAST by christians for how you FEEL. Being TRUE with yourself is the FIRST step to OPEN MINDEDNESS.
I was seaching ironmagazineforums.com for "REALLY gay" and this thread popped up. Im glad YOU like Friends, I think its FULL of variation, and variety. If you would LIKE, I can send you the entire SERIES on DVD with 480 hours of extra footage. Ill also send you a VERY informative video on AUTOFALLATIO that everyone should see! Being with a MAN you love is not always easy and you MUST LOVE yourself first.

Send me your address,
-Chain Link

Chain Link · 09-14-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vieope

Chain Link will be here shortly.

Vieope · 09-14-2005, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain Link

Dear Var,
Im glad to SEE you have embraced that "forbidden word" and no longer fear being OUTCAST by christians for how you FEEL. Being TRUE with yourself is the FIRST step to OPEN MINDEDNESS.
I was seaching for gay and this thread popped up. Im glad YOU like Friends, I think its FULL of variation, and variety. If you would LIKE, I can send you the entire SERIES on DVD with 480 hours of extra footage. Ill also send you a VERY informative video on AUTOFALLATIO that everyone should see! Being with a MAN you love is not always easy and you MUST LOVE yourself first.

Send me your address,
-Chain Link

It is Var, Chain Link and John H, the gayest, the varest post I ever saw.

Vieope · 09-14-2005, 08:49 PM

Just teasing you, Var and Chain Link.

myCATpowerlifts · 09-14-2005, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain Link

Dear Var,
Im glad to SEE you have embraced that "forbidden word" and no longer fear being OUTCAST by christians for how you FEEL. Being TRUE with yourself is the FIRST step to OPEN MINDEDNESS.
I was seaching ironmagazineforums.com for "REALLY gay" and this thread popped up. Im glad YOU like Friends, I think its FULL of variation, and variety. If you would LIKE, I can send you the entire SERIES on DVD with 480 hours of extra footage. Ill also send you a VERY informative video on AUTOFALLATIO that everyone should see! Being with a MAN you love is not always easy and you MUST LOVE yourself first.

Send me your address,
-Chain Link

Genuis!

Var · 09-14-2005, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain Link

Dear Var,
Im glad to SEE you have embraced that "forbidden word" and no longer fear being OUTCAST by christians for how you FEEL. Being TRUE with yourself is the FIRST step to OPEN MINDEDNESS.
I was seaching ironmagazineforums.com for "REALLY gay" and this thread popped up. Im glad YOU like Friends, I think its FULL of variation, and variety. If you would LIKE, I can send you the entire SERIES on DVD with 480 hours of extra footage. Ill also send you a VERY informative video on AUTOFALLATIO that everyone should see! Being with a MAN you love is not always easy and you MUST LOVE yourself first.

Send me your address,
-Chain Link

This is a post ASSPUNCTURE would have been proud of. You kind of sound like him actually

Chain Link · 09-14-2005, 09:28 PM

I was trying for John H. but Ill settle for ASSPUNCTURE

On subject though, I found a way to help people without being selfish.. do it on accident!
Like, if a drunk driver were flying down the road, and would have smashed into a car pulling out of the gas station killing the person inside... But you ran the red light and instead he hits you and kills and/or badly mangles whats left of your body, then you would have helped that person and not have done it selfishly..
Now the person pulling out of the gas station who saw the whole thing will probably speed off while you bleed to death so they dont have to sit around for the cops for 3 hours and see/smell your blood and guts.

The moral of the story is, helping everyone is selfish.. if you honestly want to help somebody without doing it for yourself, dont help anybody. Eventually your opportunity will come.

themamasan · 09-15-2005, 06:59 PM

Since being selfish is being concerned only for your self, then your activity was not selfish. If, in fact, your goal was to truly help that person.

Vieope · 09-15-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by themamasan

Since being selfish is being concerned only for your self, then your activity was not selfish. If, in fact, your goal was to truly help that person.

Quote:

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Did you get any you know what out of it?

Tough Old Man · 09-15-2005, 07:51 PM

But the real selfish help no one but themselves

MyK · 09-15-2005, 09:01 PM

todays word for you guys to learn is "altruism"

**Mudge** · 09-15-2005, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieope

I helped somebody today and I felt kinda good. Is this why people do it?
I think I wil give one more try in this helping thing..

Then that is a good thing, you are rewarded for helping them by feeling good about it and maybe earning someone who will watch your back or help you next time.

If you do it for glory, then you do it out of greed not good nature.

FishOrCutBait · 09-15-2005, 09:27 PM

Well, by definition, the act isnt, but, intentions certainly can be less than pure.

myCATpowerlifts · 09-16-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chain Link

I was trying for John H. but Ill settle for ASSPUNCTURE

I knew who you were going for

curiousity · 09-17-2005, 08:04 PM

The Dali Lama (sp?) said that that purpose of life is to be happy. To be truly happy you need to be selfish. So when does selfishness becomes a virtue? I believe that informed and self-aware selfishness is a virtue. Dig deep, what really makes you happy?

09-14-2005, 08:11 PM	#1
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09-14-2005, 08:13 PM	#2
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Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	Its definiltey selfish in some ways. Ever see that episode of Friends where Pheobe tries to do something truely selfless, but cant because it always makes her feel good?
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09-14-2005, 08:14 PM	#4
min0 lee I See© Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 30,688 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	Did you get any you know what out of it?
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09-14-2005, 08:18 PM	#9
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	I like lots of really gay stuff, Vieope.
	But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you. -N. Machiavelli

09-14-2005, 08:20 PM	#10
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	Chain Link will be here shortly.
	FURtherness

09-14-2005, 08:23 PM	#11
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	About the helping, is it because we look good being good and it feeds our ego because we do these preconvceived notions of goodness or because it is a natural instinct and we associate with the people we are helping like they are ourselves in a different scenario?
	FURtherness

09-14-2005, 08:49 PM	#15
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	Just teasing you, Var and Chain Link.
	FURtherness

09-14-2005, 09:28 PM	#18
Chain Link Cyber Athlete Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Clearwater, Fl Posts: 1,482	I was trying for John H. but Ill settle for ASSPUNCTURE On subject though, I found a way to help people without being selfish.. do it on accident! Like, if a drunk driver were flying down the road, and would have smashed into a car pulling out of the gas station killing the person inside... But you ran the red light and instead he hits you and kills and/or badly mangles whats left of your body, then you would have helped that person and not have done it selfishly.. Now the person pulling out of the gas station who saw the whole thing will probably speed off while you bleed to death so they dont have to sit around for the cops for 3 hours and see/smell your blood and guts. The moral of the story is, helping everyone is selfish.. if you honestly want to help somebody without doing it for yourself, dont help anybody. Eventually your opportunity will come.
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09-15-2005, 06:59 PM	#19
themamasan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 448	Since being selfish is being concerned only for your self, then your activity was not selfish. If, in fact, your goal was to truly help that person.

09-15-2005, 07:51 PM	#21
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	But the real selfish help no one but themselves

09-15-2005, 09:01 PM	#22
MyK Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: consumerville! Posts: 10,201 Photos: 1	todays word for you guys to learn is "altruism"

09-15-2005, 09:27 PM	#24
FishOrCutBait Got a haircut Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Buffalo, MN Posts: 4,103 Photos: 3	Well, by definition, the act isnt, but, intentions certainly can be less than pure.
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09-17-2005, 08:04 PM	#26
curiousity Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 54	The Dali Lama (sp?) said that that purpose of life is to be happy. To be truly happy you need to be selfish. So when does selfishness becomes a virtue? I believe that informed and self-aware selfishness is a virtue. Dig deep, what really makes you happy?

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