Thread: Alchohol and cutting/dieting

Originally Posted by juggernaut2005

Just wondering if alchohol can mess up a good diet/excercise routine? I drink once a week (on fridays) and usually drink 3-4 budlights or rum and diet coke. Should I stop drinking 100%? or is once a week ok?

Well if your dieting for a comp or something I'd say boot the booz but if your just a casual person trying to keep fit drinking every so often is to bad. Every week may be much though...alchohol does actualy destroy muscle due to something with the protien synthesis so try not to over do it but every now and again I wouldn't sweat it.

It's not good for you, but you can still do it. I just lost about 13 pounds, and I'm a big binge drinker on the weekends. I just try to be very strict on weekdays. I think my results would've been a bit faster or better if I didn't drink on the weekends, but hey, I like to have fun too.

Some people on this forum will probably disagree, but I say it's fine to live a little on the weekends :P

meet my little cousin Bacardi and DIET Colaaaa!!!!!! why the fuck u drink so much man ??? you can have dreams of being BIG and cut but drink alcohol every friday. Bodybuilding and alcohol doesnt mix...unless ur arnold ofcourse...

Originally Posted by juggernaut2005

Just wondering if alchohol can mess up a good diet/excercise routine? I drink once a week (on fridays) and usually drink 3-4 budlights or rum and diet coke. Should I stop drinking 100%? or is once a week ok?

It depends on how much you drink, what your overall diet and exercise program is like and what your goals are.

If you are not preparing for a comp. and you are consistant with the rest of your diet and training and you only drink a moderate amount once or twice a week then you are not going to do yourself any harm. It is only when you start drinking excessively or with greater frequency that you will start to run into problems.

You have to enjoy yourself! Life is about balance!

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

It depends on how much you drink, what your overall diet and exercise program is like and what your goals are.

If you are not preparing for a comp. and you are consistant with the rest of your diet and training and you only drink a moderate amount once or twice a week then you are not going to do yourself any harm. It is only when you start drinking excessively or with greater frequency that you will start to run into problems.

You have to enjoy yourself! Life is about balance!

Preach on sister!

I don't see a problem with drinking, although alcohol in males tends to see bodyfat stored in the stomach AKA the 'beer gut'. I drink heavily 3 times a week, as well as smoke pot daily (I know I should stop), and apart from emptying my wallet, I don't see any visible effects. And, thanks to a thorough ass-kicking from Emma, I fixed up my workout and diet and as of yesterday hit below 10% bodyfat. So, I don't see a thing wrong with pissing up.

if you want optimal results from your training/diet. Only have 1-2 drinks 1-2 times per week MAX.

Edit: As per this article http://ironmagazine.com/viewarticle-1992.html

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

It depends on how much you drink, what your overall diet and exercise program is like and what your goals are.

If you are not preparing for a comp. and you are consistant with the rest of your diet and training and you only drink a moderate amount once or twice a week then you are not going to do yourself any harm. It is only when you start drinking excessively or with greater frequency that you will start to run into problems.

You have to enjoy yourself! Life is about balance!

Im pretty sure getting sloshed to the point of where your friends have to drag you to the cab is "drinking excessively"?

Originally Posted by juggernaut2005

Just wondering if alchohol can mess up a good diet/excercise routine? I drink once a week (on fridays) and usually drink 3-4 budlights or rum and diet coke. Should I stop drinking 100%? or is once a week ok?

IMO - it depends on how quickly you want to reach your goals. Here are a few things to keep in mind........

1. Alcohol lowers testoterone and raises estrogen
2. Alcohol dehydrates you. Muscle dehydration can cause you to become catabolic.
3. Empty calories - 7 cals per gram
4. Can lower protein synthesis by 15-30%
5. Alcohol blocks the muscle absorption of potassium, calcium, magnesium, iron and phosophorus which will hinder muscle growth.

I go out and have a few beers, martinis or wine once a week as well but when I'm on a real serious cut, I don't drink at all.
5.

"2. Alcohol dehydrates you. Muscle dehydration can cause you to become catabolic."

With this in mind, just make sure you drink plenty of water between and/or after.

I am cutting right now and doing great even with moderate drinking. Don't do it too often, but when you do, make sure you have a great time and try not to overdo it. You can be more health-sconcious than the norm when drinking as well. For example, your rum and cokes.. if you're prepartying before hitting the bars, you can mix that rum with diet coke flavored with splenda. I'd rather drink another beer than get the same amount of calories from a damn (regular) coke. But if you're at the bar, forget it..

Originally Posted by Platinum

I don't see a problem with drinking, although alcohol in males tends to see bodyfat stored in the stomach AKA the 'beer gut'. I drink heavily 3 times a week, as well as smoke pot daily (I know I should stop), and apart from emptying my wallet, I don't see any visible effects. And, thanks to a thorough ass-kicking from Emma, I fixed up my workout and diet and as of yesterday hit below 10% bodyfat. So, I don't see a thing wrong with pissing up.

You are a moron, You dont even sound concerned about you drug and alcohol problem, insted you seem kind of cool and proud of it with your post. If you are under 20 then you are still imature and fixable. But if you are over 20 year of age you have a serious adult problem and therefore just a looser. If I were you I would concentrate on taking care of my addiction first and then take up bodybuilding.

I also can't beleive no one else replyed you to this idiotic and pathetic post.

Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

You are a moron, You dont even sound concerned about you drug and alcohol problem, insted you seem kind of cool and proud of it with your post. If you are under 20 then you are still imature and fixable. But if you are over 20 year of age you have a serious adult problem and therefore just a looser. If I were you I would concentrate on taking care of my addiction first and then take up bodybuilding.

I also can't beleive no one else replyed you to this idiotic and pathetic post.

oo looks like someone needs a tampon

Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

You are a moron, You dont even sound concerned about you drug and alcohol problem, insted you seem kind of cool and proud of it with your post. If you are under 20 then you are still imature and fixable. But if you are over 20 year of age you have a serious adult problem and therefore just a looser. If I were you I would concentrate on taking care of my addiction first and then take up bodybuilding.

I also can't beleive no one else replyed you to this idiotic and pathetic post.

lol i hardly think he has a drink and drugs problem you moron

Originally Posted by juggernaut2005

oo looks like someone needs a tampon

lol, sorry to come off like that, i seem to do come of agressive when I am writing, im not a female.

Originally Posted by Stu

lol i hardly think he has a drink and drugs problem you moron

oh, ok, my bad, you are right, drinking "heavily" 3 times a week and smoking pot every god damn day and know that he should stop but not stoping, is not a problem, its just a fun time, he can quit when he wants to right ?????? I cant beleive how you can call me a moron. This is a bodybuilding forum not a pot head forum.

And surely anyone with a little bit of mature "normal" sence would agree with me on this guy. A guy who smokes pot every single day and drinkes heavily 3 times a week surely is a looser with a problem, I would almost feel sorry for this guy. Sure I am into laweforcement and have strong feeling and experience. But anyone who doesnt even have anything to do with law enforcement should know better then to protect this guys post.

Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

And surely anyone with a little bit of mature "normal" sence would agree with me on this guy. A guy who smokes pot every single day and drinkes heavily 3 times a week surely is a looser with a problem, I would almost feel sorry for this guy. Sure I am into laweforcement and have strong feeling and experience. But anyone who doesnt even have anything to do with law enforcement should know better then to protect this guys post.

you wana hit copper?

Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

And surely anyone with a little bit of mature "normal" sence would agree with me on this guy. A guy who smokes pot every single day and drinkes heavily 3 times a week surely is a looser with a problem, I would almost feel sorry for this guy. Sure I am into laweforcement and have strong feeling and experience. But anyone who doesnt even have anything to do with law enforcement should know better then to protect this guys post.

I mean see where your coming from, personally I had a a big drinking problem that really effected me starting at the end of junior high and to the begining of college. Some run ins with the law and alot of money and time down the drain fixed that problem quick.

I see nothing wrong with a couple beers or something on the weekend even get drunk everyonce in awhile.

Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

oh, ok, my bad, you are right, drinking "heavily" 3 times a week and smoking pot every god damn day and know that he should stop but not stoping, is not a problem, its just a fun time, he can quit when he wants to right ?????? I cant beleive how you can call me a moron. This is a bodybuilding forum not a pot head forum.

I totally agree, people try and justify their addictions

At least it wasn't as bad as something I saw on the WannaBeBig Forums.

There were a bunch of people arguing that occassional, recreational MDMA (Ecstasy) use wasn't a bad thing... and the thread was pages long and there were maybe 1 or 2 people that said it wasn't okay. The people saying it was okay had them outnumbered about 3:1.

They also argued about other drugs being okay from cocaine to heroine to LSD.

Some of the arguements included, "Me and my friends do it all the time and we never see anyone with problems from it." Also, "at least I'm not afraid to try things and find out what works and what doesn't for me." And, "All the people that say it is bad are the people that have never done it. You can't argue intelligently about it unless you have done it yourself."

Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

oh, ok, my bad, you are right, drinking "heavily" 3 times a week and smoking pot every god damn day and know that he should stop but not stoping, is not a problem, its just a fun time, he can quit when he wants to right ?????? I cant beleive how you can call me a moron. This is a bodybuilding forum not a pot head forum.

First off, you can't be addicted to pot. I know dozens of kids who smoke every day that stop for months at a time for whatever reason and its not a big deal. Also, your not really an alcoholic if you drink heavily 3 nights a week. Your average college student gets drunk Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night. They then go the rest of the week without drinking. Sometimes they skip a week. That does not make them alchoholic.

Originally Posted by Zac_Champigny

First off, you can't be addicted to pot. I know dozens of kids who smoke every day that stop for months at a time for whatever reason and its not a big deal. Also, your not really an alcoholic if you drink heavily 3 nights a week. Your average college student gets drunk Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night. They then go the rest of the week without drinking. Sometimes they skip a week. That does not make them alchoholic.

Actually marijuana and tobacco are the only two "drugs" that hit every pleasure receptor, I think there are like 5 or six of them. Coke hits one type of pleasure receptor more intensely then marijuana does with the rest. Thus the debate about addiction could be true. Its hard for me to believe that a person who drinks three or more times a week in college when they graduate will just stop just cause they leave. I wouldn't call a person that drinks 3x a week a alcoholic but they are having the beginnings of it.

there is no problem with any drug, it is simply the abuse of them, someone wants to blow some coke i say go for it, as long as your not snorting the shit all the time ur fine. You people need to realize the only reason drugs r illeagle is because they would effect the average workers production and they are hard to tax. That is all, they r the same as perscription drugs except those are taxed heavily by the goverment.you people who sit at you comp and tell people drugs r bad have no idea about the real world, the goverment cant have all its workers blowing lines all day and expect good production. Think outside the box and you will realize this

Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

And surely anyone with a little bit of mature "normal" sence would agree with me on this guy. A guy who smokes pot every single day and drinkes heavily 3 times a week surely is a looser with a problem, I would almost feel sorry for this guy. Sure I am into laweforcement and have strong feeling and experience. But anyone who doesnt even have anything to do with law enforcement should know better then to protect this guys post.

you need to open your eyes up, i know ur in BYU country and have slanted ass ideas but take a look at the outside world, ovious everyone who is mature doesnt think smoking pot is bad, ,the goverment wants you to think that in order to keep its workers pumping out products. These people who are total against drugs are so friggn blind, its like you dont understand teh framework of laws and why we have them, laws are not gospel, there is an underlining reason for most of them

Originally Posted by Zac_Champigny

Also, your not really an alcoholic if you drink heavily 3 nights a week. Your average college student gets drunk Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night. They then go the rest of the week without drinking. Sometimes they skip a week. That does not make them alchoholic.

It does by every single medical definition of alcoholism. But it doesn't make you a loser. It makes you an alcoholic.

Originally Posted by boilermaker

It does by every single medical definition of alcoholism. But it doesn't make you a loser. It makes you an alcoholic.

If you can stop drinking without a problem or withdrawal, how are you addicted. There are also things that say things such as if you drink before or after 12 pm/am your an alchoholic. They paint it with a pretty broad brush. When I say alchoholic, I mean someone who needs alchohol. They need it in a way that their body requires it to function normally. Without it, they are not as functional. Your college drinker, who drinks on weekends, although may be abusing alchohol, is not addicted to it.

Originally Posted by Zac_Champigny

If you can stop drinking without a problem or withdrawal, how are you addicted. There are also things that say things such as if you drink before or after 12 pm/am your an alchoholic. They paint it with a pretty broad brush. When I say alchoholic, I mean someone who needs alchohol. They need it in a way that their body requires it to function normally. Without it, they are not as functional. Your college drinker, who drinks on weekends, although may be abusing alchohol, is not addicted to it.

Your last sentence is pretty logical. Pickling your liver because you are addicted to alcohol is a totally different thread. Alcoholism reaches far beyond that. Getting hammered three nights out of seven is alcoholism by any book.

If you can still function properly, go to class, go to work, perform properly, whatever, then its called functional alcoholism.

If you can go to the bar or a party with your friends, have two or three drinks (not break down emotionally on this website because you gained 7 pounds from the night of fun) and go home, while still enjoying yourself all evening then you are normal.

Not so much a problem when you are in college. After college, if you drink that way, you will be in trouble. Denial is the most recognizable sign.

im in college, love me bitch, o ya im fuckd on yip and booze

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