Bush Teleconference Staged

**Big Smoothy** · 10-13-2005, 10:39 PM

Oh dear....here we go again.
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Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged
Oct 13 7:18 PM US/Eastern

By DEB RIECHMANN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution.

"This is an important time," Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. "The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."

Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops.

As she spoke in Washington, a live shot of 10 soldiers from the Army's 42nd Infantry Division and one Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building from Tikrit _ the birthplace of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

"I'm going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me," Barber said.

A brief rehearsal ensued.

"OK, so let's just walk through this," Barber said. "Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?"

"Captain Smith," Kennedy said.

"Captain. Smith? You take the mike and you hand it to whom?" she asked.

"Captain Kennedy," the soldier replied.

And so it went.

"If the question comes up about partnering _ how often do we train with the Iraqi military _ who does he go to?" Barber asked.

"That's going to go to Captain Pratt," one of the soldiers said.

"And then if we're going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit _ the hometown _ and how they're handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?" she asked.

Before he took questions, Bush thanked the soldiers for serving and reassured them that the U.S. would not pull out of Iraq until the mission was complete.

"So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.

The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.

"You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday's event was coordinated with the Defense Department but that the troops were expressing their own thoughts. With satellite feeds, coordination often is needed to overcome technological challenges, such as delays, he said.

"I think all they were doing was talking to the troops and letting them know what to expect," he said, adding that the president wanted to talk with troops on the ground who have firsthand knowledge about the situation.

The soldiers all gave Bush an upbeat view of the situation.

The president also got praise from the Iraqi soldier who was part of the chat.

"Thank you very much for everything," he gushed. "I like you."

On preparations for the vote, 1st Lt. Gregg Murphy of Tennessee said: "Sir, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to make this thing a success. ... Back in January, when we were preparing for that election, we had to lead the way. We set up the coordination, we made the plan. We're really happy to see, during the preparation for this one, sir, they're doing everything."

On the training of Iraqi security forces, Master Sgt. Corine Lombardo from Scotia, N.Y., said to Bush: "I can tell you over the past 10 months, we've seen a tremendous increase in the capabilities and the confidences of our Iraqi security force partners. ... Over the next month, we anticipate seeing at least one-third of those Iraqi forces conducting independent operations."

Lombardo told the president that she was in New York City on Nov. 11, when Bush attended an event recognizing soldiers for their recovery and rescue efforts at Ground Zero. She said the troops began the fight against terrorism in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and were proud to continue it in Iraq.

"I thought you looked familiar," Bush said, and then joked: "I probably look familiar to you, too."

Paul Rieckhoff, director of the New York-based Operation Truth, an advocacy group for U.S. veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, denounced the event as a "carefully scripted publicity stunt." Five of the 10 U.S. troops involved were officers, he said.

"If he wants the real opinions of the troops, he can't do it in a nationally televised teleconference," Rieckhoff said. "He needs to be talking to the boots on the ground and that's not a bunch of captains."

Link:http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/13/D8D7EMNG0.html

**TJ Cline** · 10-13-2005, 10:57 PM

The fact that people voted for that Tool just proves to me that humans are idiots

**LAM** · 10-13-2005, 11:07 PM

I didn't vote for that idiot...

**Chain Link** · 10-13-2005, 11:28 PM

Don't/Won't believe the Hype, but I'm forced to live through it's repetitious idiocy

**busyLivin** · 10-13-2005, 11:28 PM

The fact that people think all politicians (republican or democrat) don't do this surprises me. It was a publicity stunt: everyone knew this even before he got caught.

It was funny though.

**busyLivin** · 10-13-2005, 11:41 PM

what's pathetic is the way this is going to be spun in the media. They're just going to use this as more fuel against Bush.

It's tiresome.

**TJ Cline** · 10-14-2005, 12:12 AM

go lick his boots slave

**Decker** · 10-14-2005, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

what's pathetic is the way this is going to be spun in the media. They're just going to use this as more fuel against Bush.

It's tiresome.

I agree. I had my fill of the spinning press when Clinton was president. But then again government propaganda is not something I want my tax dollars to support. This is Bush's 'townhall' meetings all over again. Pack the audience w/ sycophants and pretend you are really addressing the questions of americans. That kind of shit is what weak candidates do to marshal support. A president that does this is just pathetic, weak and as I've said before, incompetent. He can't stand on his own two feet.

**busyLivin** · 10-14-2005, 07:36 AM

I agree it's a poor attempt at garnering support.

**Dale Mabry** · 10-14-2005, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

go lick his boots slave

Now this is my sportscenter highlight.

**kbm8795** · 10-14-2005, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

what's pathetic is the way this is going to be spun in the media. They're just going to use this as more fuel against Bush.

It's tiresome.

They wouldn't have anything to "spin" if the doofus didn't do this simplistic crap to begin with . . .or have such an incompetent staff that the national press corps witnessed and recorded the stupid rehearsals on camera.

There wasn't any point to this whole publicity stunt except to use our own soldiers to attempt to bolster support for this lame President.

I would have been more impressed if the Prez would have started out by saying:

Prez: "Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to be here. . .as you know, we are doing this because the American people don't think too much of my leadership right now, and I need you troops to not only secure the peace and establish democracy over there but to help me convince the folks here at home that my American theocracy isn't gonna be like those radical Muslims blowing you up every day."

"As you know, we all support the ideals you are fighting for over there. I recently nominated to the Supreme Court a lady who attends an ideologically correct evangelical church in Texas so, when you come home, you'll see that the real God has moved back into the Supreme Court. Even James Dobson approves of her, and you all know that he is much more of a spiritual leader than those Iraqi clerics who cause ya'll so much trouble."

"And just for your time and efforts here today, I've instructed my staff to send you portraits of me to frame and place in a prominent location in every public building over there - just use the holes left when ya'll pulled down the pictures of Saddam."

"Now I have a few questions here about security. I see ya'll are all lookin' very safe, freshly shaved. . .and I appreciate you men keepin' your hands crossed across your crotches in those military uniforms. We've had some problems in the past with those ex-Marine homosexuals that we've let into the White House press room. How do you feel about the security situation over there as we head into these kinda decisive elections?"

Handpicked rehearsed soldier #1: "Well, Mr. President. . .as you can see. . .we haven't been blown up yet - we haven't even seen a single car get blown up - that's all staged stuff from the liberal media that is run by Democrats who hate America. Everyone loves us here. . .and every Iraqi citizen I meet says they wish they lived in America so they could vote for you."

Prez: "Glad to hear it. You are doin' a heckuva job, Brownie....oops...cut. Let's do that one again. . .now how about that training of Iraqi security forces - are we making any progress there? You know, we need to be bringing some of you home next year or the Party is gonna get its butt kicked in the elections."

Handpicked soldier #2: "Oh yes, Mr. President. As you know, the American people generously donated tax monies to help the Iraqi people replace goats and donkeys that ran off during the initial invasion - they thank the people along the Gulf Coast and New Orleans for being willing to sacrifice the rebuilding of their own homes so that we can make Iraq free.
A lot of these goats have volunteered to act as armor replacements on our vehicles. . .the single most touching act of bravery I've ever seen from domestic animals. Some have even offered to serve as body armor for our soldiers so you don't have to bother the Pentagon about reimbursing so many of our families for shelling out extra money so we'd be safe.
We are making progress on training the Iraqi army - as you know, these are battle-hardened veterans who remember the ghastly campaigns with Iran and who valiantly stood their ground during our "shock and awe" invasion. We've got them beyond practice with the rubber tipped dart guns and expect them to be able to successfully work as security guards at hotels within the next month.

Prez: "Well, I just want you to know that the American people are behind your efforts. . .they just have a hate-on for me right now, and gosh, soldiers, I don't have a single clue as to why they are actin' this way. So that's why its so important that you came here to help the American people understand that you serve your President and that your President IS your country."

Handpicked rehearsed soldier #3: "Yes, Mr. President. We know that you are constantly fighting the liberal insurgency against the god-fearing Republicans in our own country and we are proud that you told Arabic leaders that God instructed you to conduct this invasion. People need to understand that this is more than just defending our nation - this is a God against God war and our. . .er...your God must win, Mr. President. We are just grateful that we can get news over here - Rush is played on radio and television six times a day, so we keep well-informed. And we can use his broadcasts to show the Iraqi people how different our freedom is than the propaganda they had living under Saddam."

Prez: I'm very grateful for those efforts. I see you have a member of the Iraqi defense force here today. . .I'm glad to see that. And I'm happy the American people can see that he's well-fed and looks healthy and ready to do battle for his new country.

Iraqi handpicked soldier: Oh yes, Mr. President. Thank you for the very wonderful barbecue dinner. We want you to know that we live in a very dry country, so that in our new free homes, there will be no hurricanes and no people stranded on rooftops. People here blow up each other's houses because we know that America will build us new and better ones - no trailers like FEMA has for the untouchables in America. We love you. The captain here said I even get ten American dollars just for smiling at you in the camera, Mr. President. It is truly a blessing from your God. . .but if it is not too much a problem, I would like it in Euros.

**Chain Link** · 10-14-2005, 03:35 PM

The funny thing is Bush is a genious and you all dont seem to appreciate this.

Take this into consideration- Now that the bird flu is all over the media(its been around a while, Bush just brought it to the table.), and now that the media is scattering all over this staged meeting, what all can they get done behind the scenes while the media is busy? Heres a recent example-

September 22, 2005 -- While the nation’s attention was focused on the Judge John Roberts confirmation hearing and on aiding victims of Hurricane Katrina, pro-homosexual forces in the U.S. House of Representatives snuck through a pro-homosexual hate crimes bill by attaching it to legislation designed to protect children from sexual predators.

Now consider Bush's ingenuity. I add to the pot that he comes off as an idiot.
If he were really an idiot, how does he get everything to turn out exactly as he plans it to?

So while Conservativs are sitting around defending him, and liberals are trying to make it out to be the end of the world, hes getting something under the table, and unlike Clinton, its not head

Just IMO,
the,"staged" meeting seemed to obviously staged for them to have sincerly meant to use it. Im willing to say it was a staged-staged teleconference.

**busyLivin** · 10-14-2005, 04:08 PM

The thing I think might be going on under the table is this Harriet Miers nomination.

I find it strange that some of the most well known conservatives are speaking out against her: Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill Kristol, etc. The democrats don't know what to make of it.

They defend Bush on everything, yet on this decision they all are against him? Bush has known Miers for how long? The last thing he would do is nominate anyone other than a conservative.

I dunno... something to think about.

**maniclion** · 10-14-2005, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

The thing I think might be going on under the table is this Harriet Miers nomination.

I find it strange that some of the most well known conservatives are speaking out against her: Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill Kristol, etc. The democrats don't know what to make of it.

They defend Bush on everything, yet on this decision they all are against him? Bush has known Miers for how long? The last thing he would do is nominate anyone other than a conservative.

I dunno... something to think about.

I know exactly what's up, they are playing the old reverse psychology gag, thinking if they pretend to shun her the liberals will think she's just what they want.

**ALBOB** · 10-14-2005, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

I know exactly what's up, they are playing the old reverse psychology gag, thinking if they pretend to shun her the liberals will think she's just what they want.

Seems to be working pretty well so far. Not that difficult a stunt to pull off though, by and large Liberals are pretty stupid people.

**BigDyl** · 10-14-2005, 06:42 PM

Everything is black and white. Liberal and Conservative.

**Chain Link** · 10-14-2005, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Everything is black and white. Liberal and Conservative.

Did you just racially profile people's political affiliation?

**maniclion** · 10-14-2005, 07:40 PM

Just looking at the picture you can tell those soldiers are lifers and will do or say anything to get good evals.

**lnvanry** · 10-14-2005, 08:20 PM

people....It is pretty naive to think that any of these "ask random question discussions" are not stages...

the best is the pre planned questions during election time.

**kbm8795** · 10-14-2005, 08:36 PM

[QUOTE=Chain Link]September 22, 2005 -- While the nation’s attention was focused on the Judge John Roberts confirmation hearing and on aiding victims of Hurricane Katrina, pro-homosexual forces in the U.S. House of Representatives snuck through a pro-homosexual hate crimes bill by attaching it to legislation designed to protect children from sexual predators. QUOTE]

I wouldn't call hate crimes designation legislation a "pro-homosexual" bill. That term is generally only used by the wingnut media.

And I'm sure ole Jeffy Lube used plenty of professional charm on someone to get into that White House press room.

**TJ Cline** · 10-14-2005, 08:50 PM

The rich rule us like kings..........
no stop bitching and go watch some f-ing sport on TV that you know 1,000,000X more about then Politics or Politicians.

**BigDyl** · 10-14-2005, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

The rich rule us like kings..........
no stop bitching and go watch some f-ing sport on TV that you know 1,000,000X more about then Politics or Politicians.

Are you a communist or something?!?!

*drool...day dreams*

Oh shit, check out T.O.!

**TJ Cline** · 10-14-2005, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Are you a communist or something?!?!

*drool...day dreams*

Oh shit, check out T.O.!

how does saying the truth make me a commie??

**Chain Link** · 10-14-2005, 11:03 PM

[QUOTE=kbm8795]

Originally Posted by Chain Link

September 22, 2005 -- While the nation’s attention was focused on the Judge John Roberts confirmation hearing and on aiding victims of Hurricane Katrina, pro-homosexual forces in the U.S. House of Representatives snuck through a pro-homosexual hate crimes bill by attaching it to legislation designed to protect children from sexual predators. QUOTE]

I wouldn't call hate crimes designation legislation a "pro-homosexual" bill. That term is generally only used by the wingnut media.

And I'm sure ole Jeffy Lube used plenty of professional charm on someone to get into that White House press room.

Oohhh Robert is gonna freak when he sees that broken quote!

But Id have to agree. I dont have the source for that but im fairly sure its a christian publishing. I could go check but

I just needed something to consdier an example.. that was close enough

Besides, as we all know the senate and government are supposed to stop everything during disasters and supreme court nominees

**Big Smoothy** · 10-15-2005, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

The last thing he would do is nominate anyone other than a conservative.

Bush is not a conservative.

He does have to appeal to his Christian conservative base.

Many have long been suspicious of W. Bush, NOT being a conservative.

His education policies, Iraq war, and spending are NOT conservative.

**maniclion** · 10-15-2005, 02:42 AM

Bush is a Corporative neither on the left or right of this winged creature we define our vast sphere of political ideologies with, but instead inserted far up it's ass devouring it from the inside like a parasite.

**busyLivin** · 10-15-2005, 07:20 AM

If Miers ends up being anything other that a bold conservative, I will lose all respect for Bush. I don't thinks that's going to happen, but I do feel strongly about it.

**Big Smoothy** · 10-15-2005, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by maniclion

Bush is a Corporative neither on the left or right of this winged creature we define our vast sphere of political ideologies with, but instead inserted far up it's ass devouring it from the inside like a parasite.

A brilliant post Maniclion.

Corparative.

Whatever benefits the huge corporations - of particular sectors - is what the policy will be forumulated upon.

America a democracy? What a laugh.

Policy made by, supported by, and benefitted by....1% of the population.

**kbm8795** · 10-15-2005, 10:05 AM

U.S. Constitution - Article VI, Clause 3: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.."

From Reuters, Oct. 12, 2005: President Bush said Wednesday that Harriet Miers' religious beliefs figured into her nomination to the Supreme Court as a top-ranking Democrat warned against any "wink and a nod" campaign for confirmation.

"People are interested to know why I picked Harriet Miers," Bush told reporters at the White House. "They want to know Harriet Miers' background. They want to know as much as they possibly can before they form opinions. And part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion."

Bush, speaking at the conclusion of an Oval Office meeting with visiting Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski, said that his advisers were reaching out to conservatives who oppose her nomination "just to explain the facts." He spoke on a day in which conservative James Dobson, founder of Focus on Family, said he had discussed the nominee's religious views with presidential aide Karl Rove.

On a radio show being broadcast Wednesday, Dobson said he discussed Miers with Rove on Oct. 1, two days before her nomination was announced. Dobson said Rove told him "she is from a very conservative church, which is almost universally pro-life," but denied he had gotten any assurances from the White House that she would vote to overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion.

So the wingnut "Spongebob Squarepants is gay" Dobson cartoon character has to be "reassured" that there was, indeed, a "religious" litmus test in the President's selection of Miers. This is, naturally, neither "conservative" or "strict-constructionist."
It is, however, exactly what Pat Robertson meant when he said that no American should be allowed to hold office unless they were an approved wingnut "christian". . .a philosophy which apparently President Bush applied in selecting Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court. It's nice to know that America's self-appointed ayatollahs are consulted before the nation knows anything about the judicial philosophy of his appointees.

**maniclion** · 10-15-2005, 03:39 PM

http://www.clayloomis.com/bushprop3.wav

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." President G.W. Bush May 24, 2005

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