British man cured of AIDS ??

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 09:15 AM

wow...this is a freak of nature, any doctors wanna explain this ? this doesnt make sense at all...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4432564.stm

Scotsman Andrew Stimpson, 25 was diagnosed HIV-positive in 2002 but was found to be negative in October 2003.

Mr Stimpson, from London, said he was "one of the luckiest people alive".

Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare NHS Trust confirmed the tests were accurate but were unable to confirm Mr Stimpson's cure because he had declined to undergo further tests.

A statement from the trust said: "This is a rare and complex case. When we became aware of Mr Stimpson's HIV negative test results we offered him further tests to help us investigate and find an explanation for the different results.

I think I'm one of the luckiest people alive
Andrew Stimpson

Bacteria modified to fight HIV

"So far Mr Stimpson has declined this offer."

A trust spokeswoman added: "We urge him, for the sake of himself and the HIV community, to come in and get tested.

"If he doesn't feel that he can come to Chelsea and Westminster then he should please go to another HIV specialist."

'Miracle'

There have been anecdotal accounts before from Africa of people shaking off the HIV virus.

Mr Stimpson, who is originally from Largs in Ayrshire, said: "There are 34.9 million people with HIV globally and I am just one person who managed to control it, to survive from it and to get rid of it from my body.

"For me that is unbelievable - it is a miracle. I think I'm one of the luckiest people alive."

Mr Stimpson told the News of the World and Mail on Sunday that he became depressed and suicidal after being told he was HIV-positive but remained well and did not require medication.

Further tests

Some 14 months later he was offered another test by doctors, which came back negative.

He sought compensation but has apparently been told there is no case to answer because there was no fault with the testing procedure.

He has told the papers he would do anything he could to help find a cure.

Deborah Jack, chief executive of the National Aids Trust, said: "This appears to be a highly unusual case and without further tests it is impossible to draw any conclusions for people living with HIV.

"The virus is extremely complex and there are many unknowns about how it operates and how people's bodies react to it.

"Therefore, if this case were able to shed further light, it could be extremely valuable for research into treatments or a cure."

Vaccine clue

Aids expert Dr Patrick Dixon, from international Aids group Acet, said the case was "very, very unusual".

"I've come across many anecdotal reports of this kind of thing happening in Africa, some quite recently, but it's difficult to verify them," he told BBC News 24.

"You have to be rock-solid sure that both samples came from the same person, no mix-up in the laboratory, no mistakes in the testing, etc.

"This is the first well-documented case."

He said the case was important because "inside his immune system is perhaps a key that could allow us to develop some kind of vaccine".

**DOMS** · 11-13-2005, 09:26 AM

It's more likely that it was just a case of misdiagnoses.

**KentDog** · 11-13-2005, 12:24 PM

The article mentions that there have been people in Africa which dodged the HIV virus. In Microbiology class in high school, we learned this was because they lacked the receptor sites for the HIV virus so the virus could never attach itself, therefore they couldn't get it. Perhaps the man's first HIV test was taken when it was still in the blood stream; second taken when it was no longer present in his system.

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by cfs3

It's more likely that it was just a case of misdiagnoses.

Let's just hope that its not the case.

**BigDyl** · 11-13-2005, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Let's just hope that its not the case.

For min0's sake--he's still looking for a cure.

**DOMS** · 11-13-2005, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Let's just hope that its not the case.

I'm not sure I agree with this. Perhaps we should have serious disease or two to thin out the human herd.

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

For min0's sake--he's still looking for a cure.

I want to inject you with my disease.

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by cfs3

I'm not sure I agree with this. Perhaps we should have serious disease or two to thin out the human herd.

Maybe it's natures doing.

**DOMS** · 11-13-2005, 12:35 PM

Nature does try to maintain a balance.

**BoneCrusher** · 11-13-2005, 01:10 PM

There are way to man people on this rock I agree. The greatest question is who should we start the culling with? Any nominations?

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 01:13 PM

Prison.

**maxpro2** · 11-13-2005, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

There are way to man people on this rock I agree. The greatest question is who should we start the culling with? Any nominations?

How about... your whole family.

**TJ Cline** · 11-13-2005, 01:15 PM

No money in a cure....................don't hold your breath.

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by MWpro

How about... your whole family.

**BoneCrusher** · 11-13-2005, 01:26 PM

Don't be so simplistic MWpoo ... I'm harmless. If we're gonna make an impact with the removal of a single family then pick one with a high degree of self serving destructive tendencies like the Bush dynasty. Then at least you would leave a positive result.

**Vieope** · 11-13-2005, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

wow...this is a freak of nature, any doctors wanna explain this ? this doesnt make sense at all...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4432564.stm

Scotsman Andrew Stimpson, 25 was diagnosed HIV-positive in 2002 but was found to be negative in October 2003.

Mr Stimpson, from London, said he was "one of the luckiest people alive".

Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare NHS Trust confirmed the tests were accurate but were unable to confirm Mr Stimpson's cure because he had declined to undergo further tests.

A statement from the trust said: "This is a rare and complex case. When we became aware of Mr Stimpson's HIV negative test results we offered him further tests to help us investigate and find an explanation for the different results.

I think I'm one of the luckiest people alive
Andrew Stimpson

Bacteria modified to fight HIV

"So far Mr Stimpson has declined this offer."

A trust spokeswoman added: "We urge him, for the sake of himself and the HIV community, to come in and get tested.

"If he doesn't feel that he can come to Chelsea and Westminster then he should please go to another HIV specialist."

'Miracle'

There have been anecdotal accounts before from Africa of people shaking off the HIV virus.

Mr Stimpson, who is originally from Largs in Ayrshire, said: "There are 34.9 million people with HIV globally and I am just one person who managed to control it, to survive from it and to get rid of it from my body.

"For me that is unbelievable - it is a miracle. I think I'm one of the luckiest people alive."

Mr Stimpson told the News of the World and Mail on Sunday that he became depressed and suicidal after being told he was HIV-positive but remained well and did not require medication.

Further tests

Some 14 months later he was offered another test by doctors, which came back negative.

He sought compensation but has apparently been told there is no case to answer because there was no fault with the testing procedure.

He has told the papers he would do anything he could to help find a cure.

Deborah Jack, chief executive of the National Aids Trust, said: "This appears to be a highly unusual case and without further tests it is impossible to draw any conclusions for people living with HIV.

"The virus is extremely complex and there are many unknowns about how it operates and how people's bodies react to it.

"Therefore, if this case were able to shed further light, it could be extremely valuable for research into treatments or a cure."

Vaccine clue

Aids expert Dr Patrick Dixon, from international Aids group Acet, said the case was "very, very unusual".

"I've come across many anecdotal reports of this kind of thing happening in Africa, some quite recently, but it's difficult to verify them," he told BBC News 24.

"You have to be rock-solid sure that both samples came from the same person, no mix-up in the laboratory, no mistakes in the testing, etc.

"This is the first well-documented case."

He said the case was important because "inside his immune system is perhaps a key that could allow us to develop some kind of vaccine".

Dont care. Not reading.

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 01:34 PM

Because?

**BoneCrusher** · 11-13-2005, 01:36 PM

Bunnies are not affected by HIV ...

**KentDog** · 11-13-2005, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

No money in a cure....................don't hold your breath.

Very true. It is much more profitable keeping them alive and suffering for the longest period of time in which they will buy RX drugs.

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by KentDog

Very true. It is much more profitable keeping them alive and suffering for the longest period of time in which they will buy RX drugs.

Fucked up but so true..........

**DOMS** · 11-13-2005, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

There are way to man people on this rock I agree. The greatest question is who should we start the culling with? Any nominations?

How about a disease that targets drug users and people having unprotected, promiscuous, sex? You know, one that has a inverted relationship to intelligence.

**TJ Cline** · 11-13-2005, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by cfs3

How about a disease that targets drug users and people having unprotected, promiscuous, sex? You know, one that has a inverted relationship to intelligence.

I agree................but it would be nice if it killed them in a day or less.....so as not to eat up $$$$$ and Hospital staff time.

**Stu** · 11-13-2005, 03:10 PM

AIDS is a gay persons disease

**BigDyl** · 11-13-2005, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Stu

AIDS is a gay persons disease

Hence why min0 has it.

**min0 lee** · 11-13-2005, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Hence why min0 has it.

I am not gay, Kefe is.

**Chain Link** · 11-13-2005, 03:29 PM

He should thank Jesus.

**THEUNIT(XXL)** · 11-13-2005, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Chain Link

He should thank Jesus.

kefe should thank jesus??

**KentDog** · 11-13-2005, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Stu

AIDS is a gay persons disease

A lot of people don't know it used to be called GRIDS (the GR stands for "Gay-Related").

**The Monkey Man** · 11-13-2005, 03:54 PM

I think the cure for AIDS has always been around...

**The Monkey Man** · 11-13-2005, 03:54 PM

It's DEATH

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