Who's the worst American president ever?

lnvanry · 11-16-2005, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

agreed. good post.

we are a country of entrepreneurs and many non-college educated are making great money. look at bill gates as an extreme example. the guy is a college drop out.

He is definitely an excellent counterpoint to my statements, but he and the few other successful uneducated people are outliers (or celebs/atheletes)

lnvanry · 11-16-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

WOW good burn

not quite....

SuperFlex · 11-16-2005, 09:21 PM

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bio-chem · 11-16-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lnvanry

He is definitely an excellent counterpoint to my statements, but he and the few other successful uneducated people are outliers (or celebs/atheletes)

agreed he is of course an exception to the rule, that is why i said extreme example. my point was to show for those who work hard and take the initiative with a great idea, its still possible to do well without a college degree

TJ Cline · 11-16-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

agreed he is of course an exception to the rule, that is why i said extreme example. my point was to show for those who work hard and take the initiative with a great idea, its still possible to do well without a college degree

My Grandfather was the smartest person I ever met.....0 college....yet he read the entire Harvard Classics......knew them better than I did and that was my major.....plus his knowledge of them was 50 years old....he educated himself better than most colleges would have........probably much like Bill Gates......very rare individuals.

BigDyl · 11-16-2005, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

My Grandfather was the smartest person I ever met.....0 college....yet he read the entire Harvard Classics......knew them better than I did and that was my major.....plus his knowledge of them was 50 years old....he educated himself better than most colleges would have........probably much like Bill Gates......very rare individuals.

lnvanry · 11-16-2005, 09:53 PM

Back to the main question....I thought about and I think that I will only answer the presidents in my lifetime b/c I am not a history expert.

5.Jimmy Carter. worst!
4.GHB
3.Bill Clinton
2. GWB (he could surpass reagan or fall under clinton depending on the Iraq's outcome in the next 5-10 years)
1. Reagan best!

TJ Cline · 11-16-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lnvanry

Back to the main question....I thought about and I think that I will only answer the presidents in my lifetime b/c I am not a history expert.

5.Jimmy Carter. worst!
4.GHB
3.Bill Clinton
2. GWB (he could surpass reagan or fall under clinton depending on the Iraq's outcome in the next 5-10 years)
1. Reagan best!

lnvanry · 11-16-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Lets see if I'm the only one who thinks this?

min0 lee · 11-16-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lnvanry

Back to the main question....I thought about and I think that I will only answer the presidents in my lifetime b/c I am not a history expert.

5.Jimmy Carter. worst!
4.GHB
3.Bill Clinton
2. GWB (he could surpass reagan or fall under clinton depending on the Iraq's outcome in the next 5-10 years)
1. Reagan best!

Maybe in your lifetime but Reagan to me was not the best.

lnvanry · 11-16-2005, 10:01 PM

MINO list those five IYO

BigDyl · 11-16-2005, 10:04 PM

type worst president into google Click the first link.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...sident&spell=1

min0 lee · 11-16-2005, 10:09 PM

Both Roosevelts, Lincoln, Washington and Thomas Jefferson<--smart ass dude.

min0 lee · 11-16-2005, 10:13 PM

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2. GWB (he could surpass reagan or fall under clinton depending on the Iraq's outcome in the next 5-10 years)

In my lifetime he is the worst. I feel bad for the guy because he really seems like a nice guy but he's just not president material. I

gococksDJS · 11-16-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

agreed he is of course an exception to the rule, that is why i said extreme example. my point was to show for those who work hard and take the initiative with a great idea, its still possible to do well without a college degree

You also don't necessarily do well with a college degree. Three of my buddies graduated last year. One with a B.S. in chemistry, one with a whatever you get in criminal justice and the third had one of those majors that when he said it, everyone goes "huh?". All three of them are living in D.C. working for a marketing agency that has nothing to do with their degrees making shitty incomes but having a damn good time because it's a fun place to live when you're young.

min0 lee · 11-16-2005, 10:29 PM

I have noticed a great deal of College grads lack some common sense.
My spouse is a psycho biology researcher obtained the job as an intern through College but it does not have a degree in that field but it's co-worker who does have a degree in that field knows less than it does.

lnvanry · 11-16-2005, 10:34 PM

the degree just gives you a starting point....that's all.

w/ out your already a few laps behind though

TJ Cline · 11-16-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I have noticed a great deal of College grads lack some common sense.
My spouse is a psycho biology researcher obtained the job as an intern through College but it does not have a degree in that field but it's co-worker who does have a degree in that field knows less than it does.

brogers · 11-16-2005, 10:45 PM

FDR was the worst.

He is why we are so severly in debt, he began the unsustainable social welfare programs that have only ballooned to ridiculous sizes. It also turned this country from one of personal responsibility to one of reliance on the government. Just look at all the pathetic senior citizens who depend on medicare/social security. Suddenly the government needs to manage people's retirements for them.

Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter are right up there w/ him. I think Jimmy Carter is an embarassment to this country with the comments he's making these days, such as bashing America while visiting communist Cuba, etc.

I think Reagan deserves top 3, not top 10. The man was responsible for the fall of communism in Russia. A war with Russia would have been the worst in the history of the world, much less America. Not to mention he cut taxes and got our economy booming.

Dale Mabry, regarding Bush's tax cuts "for the rich" I'm quite sure it was a tax cut for everyone who pays taxes. The rich happen to pay the most taxes, so they will receive the bulk of the nominal cut, while receiving probably the same percentage cut.

If you're poor and paying 1,000 dollars of taxes, you'll only get a little back, but when you're paying 50,000 worth of taxes you're gonna get more back, it makes sense to me.

However, his presidency is largerly a disaster.

min0 lee · 11-16-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I say "it" because I prefer to keep my sex a secret. Your just jealous because I pay BigDyl more attention.

TJ Cline · 11-16-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I say "it" because I prefer to keep my sex a secret. Your just jealous because I pay BigDyl more attention.

min0 lee · 11-16-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brogers

If you're poor and paying 1,000 dollars of taxes, you'll only get a little back, but when you're paying 50,000 worth of taxes you're gonna get more back, it make sense to me.

But don't the middle and lower make up the majority....you must be very rich.

TJ Cline · 11-16-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brogers

FDR was the worst.

He is why we are so severly in debt, he began the unsustainable social welfare programs that have only ballooned to ridiculous sizes. It also turned this country from one of personal responsibility to one of reliance on the government. Just look at all the pathetic senior citizens who depend on medicare/social security. Suddenly the government needs to manage people's retirements for them.

Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter are right up there w/ him. I think Jimmy Carter is an embarassment to this country with the comments he's making these days, such as bashing America while visiting communist Cuba, etc.

I think Reagan deserves top 3, not top 10. The man was responsible for the fall of communism in Russia. A war with Russia would have been the worst in the history of the world, much less America. Not to mention he cut taxes and got our economy booming.

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min0 lee I See© Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 31,667 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	I have noticed a great deal of College grads lack some common sense. My spouse is a psycho biology researcher obtained the job as an intern through College but it does not have a degree in that field but it's co-worker who does have a degree in that field knows less than it does.
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brogers Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,253	FDR was the worst. He is why we are so severly in debt, he began the unsustainable social welfare programs that have only ballooned to ridiculous sizes. It also turned this country from one of personal responsibility to one of reliance on the government. Just look at all the pathetic senior citizens who depend on medicare/social security. Suddenly the government needs to manage people's retirements for them. Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter are right up there w/ him. I think Jimmy Carter is an embarassment to this country with the comments he's making these days, such as bashing America while visiting communist Cuba, etc. I think Reagan deserves top 3, not top 10. The man was responsible for the fall of communism in Russia. A war with Russia would have been the worst in the history of the world, much less America. Not to mention he cut taxes and got our economy booming. Dale Mabry, regarding Bush's tax cuts "for the rich" I'm quite sure it was a tax cut for everyone who pays taxes. The rich happen to pay the most taxes, so they will receive the bulk of the nominal cut, while receiving probably the same percentage cut. If you're poor and paying 1,000 dollars of taxes, you'll only get a little back, but when you're paying 50,000 worth of taxes you're gonna get more back, it makes sense to me. However, his presidency is largerly a disaster.
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lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: DC Posts: 2,976 Photos: 12	Back to the main question....I thought about and I think that I will only answer the presidents in my lifetime b/c I am not a history expert. 5.Jimmy Carter. worst! 4.GHB 3.Bill Clinton 2. GWB (he could surpass reagan or fall under clinton depending on the Iraq's outcome in the next 5-10 years) 1. Reagan best!

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lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: DC Posts: 2,976 Photos: 12	the degree just gives you a starting point....that's all. w/ out your already a few laps behind though