Who's the worst American president ever?

god hand · 11-15-2005, 12:41 PM

Who's the worst American president ever? And please dont say Bush

NeilPearson · 11-15-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by god hand

Who's the worst American president ever? And please dont say Bush

What if you really believe he is?

god hand · 11-15-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilPearson

What if you really believe he is?

Then your an idiot

**IainDaniel** · 11-15-2005, 01:11 PM

who gives a fuck

The Monkey Man · 11-15-2005, 01:13 PM

In my time...

Clinton.

Just and only for the fact that he opened the free trade with China
instantly selling out formerly protected technology,
and later caused the liquidation of US jobs

Fucking Sucks!

NeilPearson · 11-15-2005, 01:20 PM

If you want to see really, really horrible leaders, look at the Canadian Prime Ministers.

gococksDJS · 11-15-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilPearson

If you want to see really, really horrible leaders, look at the Canadian Prime Ministers.

Look at France right now. They can't control a bunch of 13 year olds who run around burning cars at night. March on their country with sharpened cro-magnon tools and it's a coup.

Bazooka Tooth · 11-15-2005, 01:23 PM

George W. Bush.....There is no doubt about it...especially in my liftime, Im only 23...

**P-funk** · 11-15-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazooka Tooth

George W. Bush.....There is no doubt about it...especially in my liftime, Im only 23...

why? you have to give a reason. It is to easy to say "so and so". Say why you think that.

gococksDJS · 11-15-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

why? you have to give a reason. It is to easy to say "so and so". Say why you think that.

Why do we have to give a reason?

clemson357 · 11-15-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

why?

because the bandwagon said so

NeilPearson · 11-15-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Look at France right now. They can't control a bunch of 13 year olds who run around burning cars at night. March on their country with sharpened cro-magnon tools and it's a coup.

Makes sense - Canadian Prime Ministers pretty much need to get the French vote to get elected.

gococksDJS · 11-15-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by clemson357

because the bandwagon said so

Come on Clemson, jump on the Top 25 bandwagon.

**P-funk** · 11-15-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Why do we have to give a reason?

for the reason that Clemson just gave.

If you know what you are talking about then giving a reason as to why so and so is not a good president in your opinion shouldn't be that hard. If you are uneducated and just saying it because the bandwagon said so or your dad told you what to think it is another story.

gococksDJS · 11-15-2005, 01:38 PM

I was just playin' P

**IainDaniel** · 11-15-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilPearson

If you want to see really, really horrible leaders, look at the Canadian Prime Ministers.

Damn Straight. It is disgusting the options we have.

MyK · 11-15-2005, 01:51 PM

Hilary Clinton

HANK-VISSER · 11-15-2005, 01:51 PM

LexusGS · 11-15-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by god hand

Then your an idiot

Drop that Atittude son.

Bazooka Tooth · 11-15-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

why? you have to give a reason. It is to easy to say "so and so". Say why you think that.

because I dont trust him at all, also I just dont see a reason why anyone would like him....you dont have to hate him or blame him for everything, but what is there to like? honestly? I havent seen or heard of him doing anything positive at all.

TJ Cline · 11-15-2005, 02:24 PM

Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr. , Bill Clinton, George Bush Jr....all sucked ass.

Nick+ · 11-15-2005, 02:27 PM

What about Blair? He licks Bush.

TJ Cline · 11-15-2005, 02:29 PM

http://www.wildnesswithin.com/worst.html
America's Top 10 Presidents

vs.

'The Worst President in All of American History'

ALBOB · 11-15-2005, 02:29 PM

Sorry, I'm gonna change the rules a bit. Instead of naming the worst person, I'm gonna tell you what I think was the worst mistake. (This one may surprise those of you who know how much of a conservative Republican I am.)

George Bush #1 not going into Iraq and getting rid of Saddam after liberating Kuwait in Gulf War I. We were already there. It would have been nothing to just keep marching a few more miles to finish the job. Instead, we abandoned the Iraqi citizens and left them to deal with this murderous maniac who brought instability to the entire region. There are Iraqi people who don't trust us to this day because we abandoned them after the first Gulf War. He should have learned his lesson from the history books and what Patton wanted to do in Europe after WWII. Same scenario, same mistake. I know, I know, that wasn't part of the UN resolution. So freaking what? The UN has proven time and time again to be nothing more than a cover for a gigantic embezzlement machine.

Decker · 11-15-2005, 02:37 PM

Of 415 historians who expressed a view of President Bush’s administration to this point as a success or failure, 338 classified it as a failure and 77 as a success. (Moreover, it seems likely that at least eight of those who said it is a success were being sarcastic, since seven said Bush’s presidency is only the best since Clinton’s and one named Millard Fillmore.) Twelve percent of all the historians who responded rate the current presidency the worst in all of American history, not too far behind the 19 percent who see it at this point as an overall success.
http://hnn.us/articles/5019.html

god hand · 11-15-2005, 02:42 PM

Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression

**Dale Mabry** · 11-15-2005, 02:59 PM

I would have to go with GW Bush. I liked Reagan and the first Bush, liked Clinton as well. I also don't want to say someone who I was not alive for was the worst president because it would be based on other's testimony. Here are my reasons...

1)Iraq. Regardless of if he didn't mislead, he certainly didn't go ahead and confirm the "facts" before jumping into a war, prolly something you should do when other people's lives are at stake.

2)Economy. I don't think cutting taxes for the rich is an appropriate way to bring our economy out of the crapper. Regardless of who's fault the bad economy was (Some say Clinton, some say outside factors ie. Bin Laden), I don't think reducing the gov'ts intake of cash is the right way to pay for a war on terror. I could definitely be wrong though, not a big economics guy.

3)All the goddamned religion. Nuff said.

4)Not being able to admit a mistake when it is blatantly obvious that one occured.

Now, I don't think this is is all of his fault, the whole gov't is in the shitter. How else can you explain congress taking the Schiavo case and MLB steroid stuff when there are far worse concerns.

Clinton wasn't great, but when weighing the shit he did, he is a distant second to Bush, Jr.

maniclion · 11-15-2005, 03:09 PM

Maniclion doesn't care for Bush people.

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NeilPearson Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,205	If you want to see really, really horrible leaders, look at the Canadian Prime Ministers.

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TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	http://www.wildnesswithin.com/worst.html America's Top 10 Presidents vs. 'The Worst President in All of American History'
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11-15-2005, 02:29 PM	#24
ALBOB IDIOT SAVANT Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: An alternate reality. Posts: 10,089	Sorry, I'm gonna change the rules a bit. Instead of naming the worst person, I'm gonna tell you what I think was the worst mistake. (This one may surprise those of you who know how much of a conservative Republican I am.) George Bush #1 not going into Iraq and getting rid of Saddam after liberating Kuwait in Gulf War I. We were already there. It would have been nothing to just keep marching a few more miles to finish the job. Instead, we abandoned the Iraqi citizens and left them to deal with this murderous maniac who brought instability to the entire region. There are Iraqi people who don't trust us to this day because we abandoned them after the first Gulf War. He should have learned his lesson from the history books and what Patton wanted to do in Europe after WWII. Same scenario, same mistake. I know, I know, that wasn't part of the UN resolution. So freaking what? The UN has proven time and time again to be nothing more than a cover for a gigantic embezzlement machine.
	Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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Decker % Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 2,051	Of 415 historians who expressed a view of President Bush’s administration to this point as a success or failure, 338 classified it as a failure and 77 as a success. (Moreover, it seems likely that at least eight of those who said it is a success were being sarcastic, since seven said Bush’s presidency is only the best since Clinton’s and one named Millard Fillmore.) Twelve percent of all the historians who responded rate the current presidency the worst in all of American history, not too far behind the 19 percent who see it at this point as an overall success. http://hnn.us/articles/5019.html

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god hand 10.5 out of 10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 4,217 Photos: 4	Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression

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Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,748 Photos: 10	I would have to go with GW Bush. I liked Reagan and the first Bush, liked Clinton as well. I also don't want to say someone who I was not alive for was the worst president because it would be based on other's testimony. Here are my reasons... 1)Iraq. Regardless of if he didn't mislead, he certainly didn't go ahead and confirm the "facts" before jumping into a war, prolly something you should do when other people's lives are at stake. 2)Economy. I don't think cutting taxes for the rich is an appropriate way to bring our economy out of the crapper. Regardless of who's fault the bad economy was (Some say Clinton, some say outside factors ie. Bin Laden), I don't think reducing the gov'ts intake of cash is the right way to pay for a war on terror. I could definitely be wrong though, not a big economics guy. 3)All the goddamned religion. Nuff said. 4)Not being able to admit a mistake when it is blatantly obvious that one occured. Now, I don't think this is is all of his fault, the whole gov't is in the shitter. How else can you explain congress taking the Schiavo case and MLB steroid stuff when there are far worse concerns. Clinton wasn't great, but when weighing the shit he did, he is a distant second to Bush, Jr.
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