Atheist Now Sues to Take Motto Off Money

**min0 lee** · 11-18-2005, 09:43 PM

By DAVID KRAVETS
Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. (AP) -- An atheist who has spent four years trying to ban the Pledge of Allegiance from being recited in public schools is now challenging the motto printed on U.S. currency because it refers to God.

Michael Newdow seeks to remove "In God We Trust" from U.S. coins and dollar bills, claiming in a federal lawsuit filed Thursday that the motto is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion.

Newdow, a Sacramento doctor and lawyer, used a similar argument when he challenged the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools because it contains the words "under God."

He took his pledge fight to the U.S. Supreme Court, which in 2004 said he lacked standing to bring the case because he did not have custody of the daughter he sued on behalf of.

An identical lawsuit later brought by Newdow on behalf of parents with children in three Sacramento-area school districts is pending with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, after a Sacramento federal judge sided with Newdow in September. The judge stayed enforcement of the decision pending appeal, which is expected to reach the Supreme Court.

Congress first authorized a reference to God on a two-cent piece in 1864. The action followed a request by the director of the U.S. Mint, who wrote there should be a "distinct and unequivocal national recognition of the divine sovereignty" on the nation's coins.

In 1955, the year after Congress inserted the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, Congress required all currency to carry the motto "In God We Trust."

"The placement of 'In God We Trust' on the coins and currency was clearly done for religious purposes and to have religious effects," Newdow wrote in the 162-page lawsuit he filed against Congress.

Newdow's latest lawsuit came five days after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected, without comment, a challenge to an inscription of "In God We Trust" on a North Carolina county government building.

In doing so, the justices upheld the Richmond, Va.-based 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled that "In God We Trust" appears on the nation's coins and is a national motto.

"In this situation, the reasonable observer must be deemed aware of the patriotic uses, both historical and present, of the phrase 'In God We Trust,'" the appeals panel ruled in upholding the inscription's display.

Foreman would approve of this.

**TJ Cline** · 11-18-2005, 09:45 PM

I agree with his quest............but I know better than to try and pull the sheep's heads from the astro turf.

**min0 lee** · 11-18-2005, 09:47 PM

Damn your quick.

**TJ Cline** · 11-18-2005, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Damn your quick.

Don't tell the ladies that

**PreMier** · 11-18-2005, 10:44 PM

Fuck that athiest bitch. I will kill him.

**TJ Cline** · 11-18-2005, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by PreMier

Fuck that athiest bitch. I will kill him.

Jesus would be proud of you!

**BigDyl** · 11-18-2005, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Jesus would be proud of you!

**The Monkey Man** · 11-18-2005, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Jesus would be proud of you!

**brogers** · 11-19-2005, 08:55 AM

What a pathetic human being he is. Apparently this is all he does with his life because he's done similar lawsuits a couple times before.

**The Monkey Man** · 11-19-2005, 09:01 AM

Some people need goals -

**dougnukem** · 11-19-2005, 09:09 AM

It's his right...........

to be a dumbass.

**Vieope** · 11-19-2005, 09:16 AM

God is so cool, he wont even care about this guy and all this. He doesnt care about genocides, war and hunger either. Such a nice guy.

**TJ Cline** · 11-19-2005, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by brogers

What a pathetic human being he is. Apparently this is all he does with his life because he's done similar lawsuits a couple times before.

Really????
What else has he done???.....be specific
Does he have a job??? if so where and what does he do??
Is it pathetic because you don't agree with it????

**ag-guys** · 11-19-2005, 09:34 AM

interesting...wow

AG
www.ag-guys.com

**dougnukem** · 11-19-2005, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Really????
What else has he done???.....be specific
Does he have a job??? if so where and what does he do??
Is it pathetic because you don't agree with it????

I think I saw him baggin my groceries last week.....he was a natural.

**musclepump** · 11-19-2005, 09:43 AM

I hope this guy finds Jesus.

**min0 lee** · 11-19-2005, 09:48 AM

**clemson357** · 11-19-2005, 09:52 AM

"...he lacked standing to bring the case because he did not have custody of the daughter he sued on behalf of."

sounds like a classy guy. sue on behalf of his daughter, who he doesn't even take care of.

**Vieope** · 11-19-2005, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

**Prince** · 11-19-2005, 12:07 PM

I agree with him 100%, religion and government should be separate.

**Dale Mabry** · 11-19-2005, 12:13 PM

I agree that church and gov't should be separate, I don't believe having a statement in a pledge or on money really matter sin the grand scheme of things. I also don't see the problem with religion being taught in school, as long as it is not required, sort of like an elective.

**maniclion** · 11-19-2005, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I also don't see the problem with religion being taught in school, as long as it is not required, sort of like an elective.

Since it's public school all religions would have to have equal representation.

**Dale Mabry** · 11-19-2005, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

Since it's public school all religions would have to have equal representation.

I have no problem with that.

**ihateschoolmt** · 11-19-2005, 12:41 PM

Who the fuck cares what the money says on it.

**Dale Mabry** · 11-19-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

Who the fuck cares what the money says on it.

I am sure this dickbag won't cash his paycheck because he is so offended.

**maniclion** · 11-19-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I have no problem with that.

Which christianity do they teach? Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, Pentacostal, Presbyterian, Mormon, Non-Denominational, Church of Christ, Episcopalian, Assemblies of God, Congregational, Seventh Day Adventist, and on......?

That's just Christianity and only the major subs, just think of all the other major religion and there subs schools wouldn't even be large enough to house all of the classes, and who would pay the teachers to teach all of that?

**Dale Mabry** · 11-19-2005, 01:00 PM

Offer christianity and all of it's subdivisions one year, whatever other religion the next, and so on. I don't really think we need to go to into detail, christians believe in christ, muslims someone else, buddhas whatever, etc.

**ihateschoolmt** · 11-19-2005, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I am sure this dickbag won't cash his paycheck because he is so offended.

That's what I was just thinking.

**maniclion** · 11-19-2005, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Offer christianity and all of it's subdivisions one year, whatever other religion the next, and so on. I don't really think we need to go to into detail, christians believe in christ, muslims someone else, buddhas whatever, etc.

Won't work cause as much as Atheists whine about seperation of Church and State the other religions will whine 300 times more loudly about being equally represented cause they think they have God on their side.

**ihateschoolmt** · 11-19-2005, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

Won't work cause as much as Atheists whine about seperation of Church and State the other religions will whine 300 times more loudly about being equally represented cause they think they have God on their side.

Yea, that would be a fucking war.

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