Thread: How bad are the IRS?

Never met one, as I am sure a very small portion of the population ever does. I don't itemize so I doubt I will ever see one until I do.

Actually, they're not as bad as the rumors say. People think they're bad, because most of these people owe money, so it makes it the IRS's fault they can't do their taxes properly. From what I know of the IRS, they are flexible with you and will help you when you ask for it. Problem is, people expect everything to be handed to them in our country, so asking for help can sometimes be far-fetched.

Taxes are worse in the UK...

But the problem is, many US citizens feel there is no provision in the constitution
for taxation, it was originally designed to be voluntary...

I personally would like to see a flat tax, an end to welfare, and probably 80%
of the IRS out of work -

I have an IRS agent in my conference room right now and I'd have to say that he is pretty much a prick.

I don't understand why people think a flat tax makes taxes easier. Nearly all of my work goes into computing taxable income, applying the rates is easy.

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Taxes are worse in the UK...

But the problem is, many US citizens feel there is no provision in the constitution
for taxation, it was originally designed to be voluntary...

I personally would like to see a flat tax, an end to welfare, and probably 80%
of the IRS out of work -

The US has some of the lowest taxes ever thanks to JFK, Reagan, Clinton, and GWB. We have some of the lowest personal income tax and the lowest corporate tax too.

The only people who really complain about taxes are the rich idoits that don't know how to incorporate their personal income into corporate income...basically rich fools who don't know the rules of the tax game.

I have never met an IRS agent, but I would assume they would be like any other gov't official...

Rather than a Flat Tax, I'm in favor of the Fair_Tax initiative.

I agree, IRS Agents can be prickish. I owed $1,500 on my 2003 taxes but due to my Afghanistan deployment was unable to file until late 2004. When I finally got home and contacted them about my overdue taxes they pretty-much tried to levy a ton of penalties and late-fees on me until I politely sent them a letter of explanation, a copy of my deployment order, and sent a courtesy copy to both my senators and my congressman. In then end i still owed the money but I didn'r get hammered with a ton of fees.

Here in America, the first born of every family is given to the IRS who promptly devours their internal organs then prints out W-2's on their skin, so just don't be the first born and you'll be fine.

that fair tax seems great in theory but I don't think its very practical....we need people spending to obtain economic growth and the fair tax promotes the exact opposite

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Here in America, the first born of every family is given to the IRS who promptly devours their internal organs then prints out W-2's on their skin, so just don't be the first born and you'll be fine.

What about a second child that is born 5 or more years later, aren't they psychologically classified as a second first child rather than a first second child?

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

What about a second child that is born 5 or more years later, aren't they psychologically classified as a second first child rather than a first second child?

In any instance of confusion the child will be eaten, but will be tax deductible of course.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

In any instance of confusion the child will be eaten, but will be tax deductible of course.

What about the poo, can you write that off? Would that pile of poo still be considered a dependent?

Originally Posted by lnvanry

that fair tax seems great in theory but I don't think its very practical....we need people spending to obtain economic growth and the fair tax promotes the exact opposite

I respectfully disagree. Sure, Cost will increase due to the applied taxes on purchase items, however, your overall take-home pay will have increased because federal taxes are no longer being deducted from your check.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

What about the poo, can you write that off? Would that pile of poo still be considered a dependent?

Clearly the poo is a dependent, but if you fling the poo it can be deemed a device for self defense and can be written off. But if you eat the poo, this is seen as a means of recycling and is praised by the IRS, so I guess if you eat poo that has been flinged at you, you are entitled to a rebate of 5% or roughly three separate 4" logs, with or without undigested corn kernels.

Originally Posted by Pepper

I have an IRS agent in my conference room right now and I'd have to say that he is pretty much a prick.

I don't understand why people think a flat tax makes taxes easier. Nearly all of my work goes into computing taxable income, applying the rates is easy.

The flat tax should end "ALL" computation...

You give like 15% (for example) of every $1 of income...

No refunds, no loopholes, the same 15% no matter how much you earn

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

What about the poo, can you write that off? Would that pile of poo still be considered a dependent?

But since gay buttsex blocks the poo exit, it is seen as witholding assets incured and thus tax evasion. And administering a dirty sanches is misappropriation of funds, making poostain laundering illegal as well, leading to a possible poo audit where reciepts have to be shown documenting all poos recieved as well as given.

Originally Posted by Witmaster

I respectfully disagree. Sure, Cost will increase due to the applied taxes on purchase items, however, your overall take-home pay will have increased because federal taxes are no longer being deducted from your check.

I think once people get the $$$,
everyone will dash to buy products oversees,
or live in an empty home and stash
the $$ in an offshore account...

Then there would be no $ input...
Food prices would go through the roof!

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

I think once people get the $$$, everyone will dash to buy products oversees, or live in an empty home and stash the $$ in an offshore account

Possible.... However, I doubt people will buy thier gas and groceries from offshore sources. People will still go to Dillards, Target, WalMart, or wherever. Consumer Spending will not stop.

Originally Posted by Witmaster

Possible.... However, I doubt people will buy thier gas and groceries from offshore sources. People will still go to Dillards, Target, WalMart, or wherever. Consumer Spending will not stop.

I wouldn't trust them, even the 10% you lose would kill everyone else
People would use old appliances, cars, tvs... I would make my computer
last another year... Like that... tax money lost

But, I like you so HERE

I work with all government agency's and I would have to say they are the biggest pricks, other agencies have no love for them.

I owed the IRS money a few years and I was like dealing with a Mafia lone shark. There interest rates can kill you.

They are also the only agency able to catch Al Capone.

Originally Posted by lnvanry

that fair tax seems great in theory but I don't think its very practical....we need people spending to obtain economic growth and the fair tax promotes the exact opposite

I agree 100% We need to cut taxes on the Rich and especially cut or get rid of taxes on inheritance..........I want 100% of the money my Rich dad is going to give me so I want everybody here to vote Republican from now on.........If you don't then I might have to quit posting and go get a job.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I agree 100% We need to cut taxes on the Rich and especially cut or get rid of taxes on inheritance..........I want 100% of the money my Rich dad is going to give me so I want everybody here to vote Republican from now on.........If you don't then I might have to quit posting and go get a job.

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

The flat tax should end "ALL" computation...

You give like 15% (for example) of every $1 of income...

No refunds, no loopholes, the same 15% no matter how much you earn

How do you define "income?"

Someone repays a loan, is that income? You sell a stock, is it all income? You sell a house, is that all income? You borrow money, is that income?

The definition of income IS the complexity of the tax code.

People say "income" like it needs no definition.

Originally Posted by Pepper

How do you define "income?"

Someone repays a loan, is that income? You sell a stock, is it all income? You sell a house, is that all income? You borrow money, is that income?

The definition of income IS the complexity of the tax code.

People say "income" like it needs no definition.

I run a lemonade stand in the ghetto of Columbia(everywhere) but also sell rock under the table, and crackhoes pay me with fellatio, so how do I report my earnings? Jerk off on my W-2's?

so....so far the majority of people seem more or less pleased with the IRS, kinda surprising...And yea Tax in the uk is crappy, but on the other hand there are plenty of ways to dodge it and they don't chase you up as harshly as they do in the US supposedly, furthermore if you work abroad you don't have to pay tax to the uk, unlike in the US, also Our Universities/Health Service are free (NHS is shit though).University you have to pay for the living costs (Really good student loan deal avaliable), but tution is usually only $2000/ per year tops(Undergrad).

The IRS randomly audits a percentage of the population every year. My dad has been randomly audited twice and was pissed both times.

Originally Posted by Pepper

How do you define "income?"

Someone repays a loan, is that income? You sell a stock, is it all income? You sell a house, is that all income? You borrow money, is that income?

The definition of income IS the complexity of the tax code.

People say "income" like it needs no definition.

Income from your job!

Originally Posted by Pepper

How do you define "income?"

Someone repays a loan, is that income? No You sell a stock, is it all income? Yes You sell a house, is that all income? Yes You borrow money, is that income? No

The definition of income IS the complexity of the tax code.

People say "income" like it needs no definition.

And a pay check as well

Income:The amount of money or its equivalent received during a period of time in exchange for labor or services, from the sale of goods or property, or as profit from financial investments.