Rocco32

Actually the origins of hell come from the Greek mythologies. So what did you vote?

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P-funk

damn....calm the fuck down!

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Bazooka Tooth

Do non-Christians even want to goto Heaven? Do they care?
That's the question....

Im not talking about anyone in here, but for someone who isnt religious ask

"Since Im not religious, will I goto Heaven?" Sounds weird to me....I mean it sounds like you believe in Heaven and Hell....and as if you care....so what is it about religion that you don't accept?

Nick+

Heaven sounds pretty dull.

Nick+

I mean..............

dougnukem

Wow, this thread is still going strong depsite someone "wiggin out" for no apparent reason. I gotta say, I'm learning a lot. Keep it up.

The Monkey Man

"You might have heard I run with a dangerous crowd
We ain't too pretty we ain't too proud
We might be laughing a bit too loud
But that never hurt no one

Come on Virginia show me a sign
Send up a signal I'll throw you the line
The stained-glass curtain you're hiding behind
Never lets in the sun

You got a nice white dress and a party on your confirmation
You got a brand new soul
And a cross of gold
But Virginia they didn't give you quite enough information
You didn't count on me
When you were counting on your rosary

They say there's a heaven for those who will wait
Some say it's better, but I say it ain't
I'd rather laugh with the sinners- than cry with the saints
Sinners are much more fun...

And only the good die young"


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Rocco32

I've really appreciated what most people have posted. This has been a hot topic in my life lately. Most people at work and in my family believe non-believers will go to hell.

I've come to the conclusion that is not the truth being a christian myself. I've stopped going to Church and you can imagine the arguments I get into about this among other things LOL.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

silencer

Personally I think people can believe/Think whatever they want, I think all people who post on this board live in a free society from what I am aware. Just as long as what they believe/think doesn't hurt themselves or others, then for all I care they could believe that Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny and Non-Cristians burn in hell...fine by me, as long as they don't hurt other people with their beliefs . Although I do appreciate people actually taking time to question beliefs rather then just relying on what they have always been told, questionining and doubting "the facts" of life have always been great stepping stones to reach the truth.

FishOrCutBait

Ah, here we are.



Yes, all non-Christians will go to Hell. Not because Christians "are better people", but because of our trust in Jesus Christ, and our acceptance of his gift, that gift being dying on the cross to pay for our sins.

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Rocco32

Didn't Christ die on the cross of ALL mankind?

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FishOrCutBait

However, Micro is true, IMO. Because these species are adapting. Not changing, just adapting. They can still interbreed, its the same concept as different races in the human species.

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gococksDJS

excellent question..

gococksDJS

adaptation is change. Change within the species.

FishOrCutBait

Yes, but one must ACCEPT and ACKNOWLEDGE him. Some dude who says, "Oh, Jesus didnt exist" Isnt gonna get a free ride to heaven. He isnt going to get the benefits, did you read when Jesus was talking to that pharisee dude, and he said something to the extent of

"To enter the Kingdom of Heaven, one must be born again. Not born of flesh, but born of spirit."

Being "born again" means accepting Christ, and asking The Lord to guide your life. You die to the world, but are alive in Christ alone.

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FishOrCutBait

Not a change OF species though. That is the major point

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silencer

I have an interesting question (for me anyways) . Who is more important to you, God the Almighty, or Christ ?

gococksDJS

have you ever heard of allopatric and sympatric speciation? Read about Darwin's finches.

FishOrCutBait

Neither. The Trinity is a veeeery strange concept... All three are God, in actuality, but, different... not forms, but... Parts, I would say. The Holy Spirit is God's voice inside Christians, Christ is God born as a man, and God is... God. Yahweh.

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FishOrCutBait

Yeah, yeah yeah. I dont put much weight in what Darwin had to say. All of that is really details, not the major point of the argument. And before you make some stupid comment, im in high school environmental science, and my teacher is a frickin 60 year old stoner. you are at least 5 years older than me, with however many intense college courses about evolution, etc, so dont pull some load of crock like "you cant back your shit up..."

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gococksDJS

What about those who do not believe that Jesus was the messiah? Do they go to hell? The Jewish faith does not accept Jesus as the messiah.

silencer

So the Son of God was Jesus, so Jesus is God. But it also says we are God's Children so we are sons of God so we are God? How could God Refuse Himself into heaven? Unless he doesn't want to go there.

gococksDJS

I was simply trying to give you an example of how a new species forms, so calm down. Do you not put much weight on Darwin because you don't know about his work or because you know about it and don't buy it? Because his work on the Galapagos Islands basically proved evolution due to natural selection.

Nick+

Old politics- slightly relevant.....

FishOrCutBait

We are not God. People take the term God's children out of concept. We are not God, merely a creation of Him, made in his image.

Gococks

I dont buy what Darwin has to say. It stems from my religion and my own thought process, but some of his stuff seems a little... Not right to me. But, I havent done enough research to pull out different quotes from him and say, Oh, this is wrong, and so is this. So, Id really rather not say anything else about him, cuz I dont want to just be spewing BS.

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silencer

Um ok, let me get this Straight. We are not God. We are a Creation By GOD Made in his Image? So we are a clone of God, but we don't get any privledges?

gococksDJS

Read this....

Now how can you expect someone to not ask for evidence of what you stated? You gave your opinion to Pepper, but tried to back your opinion with the fact that species aren't changing, just adapting, and didn't know that you were wrong. So I informed you of speciation and you jump on me. I probably am about 5 years older than you, but give this answer to a college professor when they ask you about speciation and watch them laugh at you while giving you an F. You can't disprove someone with a fact that isn't true, so if you just don't know, then don't speak.

Rocco32

Who says it has to be in this life? I don't believe you even need to accept it. It was an act done for the redemption of all mankind. What about those who never hear? What about children? And why would someone who was not raised in Christian faith (meaning they don't question their beliefs) buy into christianity?

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

FishOrCutBait

I have a very basic knowledge. Im sorry, I got pissed because you asked me something i didnt know, and I actually couldnt back my crap up...

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Rocco32

The holy trinity concept is actually derived from the Hindu faith. 3 gods in one but with different personalities. You have the Creator, the destroyer, and the saviour.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...