Thread: Tookie Williams Execution!!!!!!

They eat a lot and they have plenty of time to sleep and train.

schwarzenegger has really disappointed me

Originally Posted by nitrous_nate

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!! All I can say is they must deal roids in the prison too. I don't know if anyone got to see clips of him going into his execution but this guy was freakin huge!!!!!! I read one report where it said he had a 52" chest. He must have been doing something in there and just wondered if anyone else noticed this or had a comment about it. Later Nate

you can get any drug you want in prision, I did 3 cycles when I was locked up.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

you can get any drug you want in prision, I did 3 cycles when I was locked up.

I always had to pee sitting down.

True story

Originally Posted by HANK-VISSER

schwarzenegger has really disappointed me

Why, because he actually followed thru with a sentence posed
upon a triple murderer convicted by his own peers?



Go smoke some more hash hippy!

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Why, because he actually followed thru with a sentence posed
upon a triple murderer convicted by his own peers?



Go smoke some more hash hippy!

That's enough out of you. Go snatch something...

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Why, because he actually followed thru with a sentence posed
upon a triple murderer convicted by his own peers?



Go smoke some more hash hippy!

There's a big anti-death penalty current in Europe. I don't believe that the death penalty exists in any European country.

So if your in Europe and say...rape an 8 year-old girl and then kill her, the worst you'll get is life in prison.

So Europe has pretty much given up on justice.

Great signature, Foreman.

I don't believe you did enough time to do three cycles, though.

(But I don't care if you did.)

You're still the cool guy around here.

i think tookie being the founder of the crips shouldnt have die but could have been more useful by giving speeches to kids about ganglife i think he could of had a impact on kids before they join a gang cuz once you do its hard to get out . But now if it wasnt the founder you'd have to go w the death penalty but being who he was i dont think so

Originally Posted by cfs3

There's a big anti-death penalty current in Europe. I don't believe that the death penalty exists in any European country.

So if your in Europe and say...rape an 8 year-old girl and then kill her, the worst you'll get is life in prison.

So Europe has pretty much given up on justice.

I would have to totally disagree with that actually.

Given your scenario of someone raping and killing a 8 year old girl and being convicted. His life from that point is over.

Europe is pretty much split in half, Western Europe can be considered richer and more civilised while Eastern Europe is slowly recovering from the communist regime of the Ex-USSR.

As a Russian friend of mine told me who visited a Russian prison "You don't know what hell is until you have been to a Russian Prison"

So lets take the FIRST Scenario that he has been Sentenced to life imprisonment in Eastern Europe for killing raping and killing an 8 year old girl. First of all He will most likely be killed in Jail for that as they will find out what he did, but not the humane Killing using an Injection or Electric chair...He will be continually beaten and beaten and beaten , raped several times by people, some who might have HIV, they would torture people like that, and eventually kill them. The stuff they call "Food" in those prisons you would not feed your dog, and the conditions there are absolutely terrible...

Second Scenario, He is put in Prison in Western Europe in a Maximum Security Prison for Raping and Killing a 8 Year old Girl. Well we had a case a few year back in the UK where a man killed 2 young girls, his name was Ian Huntley. Firstly the Press goes absolutely crazy in Western Europe when it involves younger children, There is hardly a case which goes by that the press will not catch onto and publicise it to the full extent. It has been reported that he mostly spends his time in "The hole" by himself, since everytime he is let out he gets brutaly beaten by other prison mates. He is breathing and eating , everyone HATES him, and he gets beaten everytime he comes out of his cell, I wouldn't call that life. I'm not sure if he has tried to kill himself yet.

It is ridiculous to state "Europe has given up on Justice" There were several cases in the UK which led to the hanging of men who didn't commit the crimes they were accussed and convicted of, which eventually led to Life in Prison without parole as the maximum pentaly, except in the case of treason, where the death penatly still exists(Although will most likely never be used).

I am by no means arguing that Tookie didn't deserve what he got, but he is an individual case. He started a gang which has led to the killing of 1000's of people, has caused people to live in fear and violence everyday. And common...lets get real, IF he didn't kill those people, I'll be anything that he has killed people before he was convicted for those murders.

But to say that Europe is has given up on justice is statement that is just laughable.....

Great post!

But leaving "justice" to prison inmates speaks poorly of the EU justice system.

Originally Posted by silencer

So lets take the FIRST Scenario that he has been Sentenced to life imprisonment in Eastern Europe for killing raping and killing an 8 year old girl.

He killed her, then raped her, then killed her AGAIN?!?!? Damn, that's one baaaaaad dude.

Well, Like I said the "EU" is split in half when it comes to certain areas, some being more civilised then others.

And in regards to that...I personally think they think its a great idea, since the person who they inflicted their rape/murder on had to suffer severly, why shouldn't the person who inflicted it go through the same torture, but repetitively ?

Knowing when you are going to die, having a luxurious last meal and then having a painless death is an easy way out compared to what the Eastern European block is about....

Originally Posted by cfs3

There's a big anti-death penalty current in Europe. I don't believe that the death penalty exists in any European country.

So if your in Europe and say...rape an 8 year-old girl and then kill her, the worst you'll get is life in prison.

So Europe has pretty much given up on justice.

Bleeding heart hippies -

Originally Posted by ALBOB

He killed her, then raped her, then killed her AGAIN?!?!? Damn, that's one baaaaaad dude.

Yep, he sure was

Originally Posted by silencer

Well, Like I said the "EU" is split in half when it comes to certain areas, some being more civilised then others.

And in regards to that...I personally think they think its a great idea, since the person who they inflicted their rape/murder on had to suffer severly, why shouldn't the person who inflicted it go through the same torture, but repetitively ?

Knowing when you are going to die, having a luxurious last meal and then having a painless death is an easy way out compared to what the Eastern European block is about....

Yes, but it takes money from the tax payers to support the prisoner. How is that justice? The parents have live knowing that the killer is still "out there" and tax payers have to support him.

Personally, I believe that a person should be executed the same way that they killed their victim.

Originally Posted by silencer

Yep, he sure was

Is there something you need to get off your chest silencer?

Originally Posted by cfs3

Yes, but it takes money from the tax payers to support the prisoner. How is that justice? The parents have live knowing that the killer is still "out there" and tax payers have to support him.

Personally, I believe that a person should be executed the same way that they killed their victim.

At the end of the day its simple. The laws essentially reflect the society which governs that set area.

On a whole the people Don't believe in the death Penalty and therefore if they want to spend their Tax money on supporting criminals, then that's up to them.

And true, the parents do know that the killer is still out there, on the other hand some of them still don't believe that the death penalty is the way to go, and they know all to well that the person will suffer tremedous beatings and torture in prison, their Daughters/relatives death might have lasted for 20-30 minutes, but the killers will last for the next 20-30 years....

I don't remember who it was, but someone on IM had a great idea. During tax time, have every person fill out a form indicating whether they support the death penalty or not. For all those that do, they will be taxed for the costs of the execution, and for those who don't, they will be taxed for the cost of food and shelter for the prisoners (who may live in prison for up to 70 years).

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Bleeding heart hippies -

bleeding heart hippies who can legally posess steroids and personal amounts of narcotics

Originally Posted by cfs3

I don't remember who it was, but someone on IM had a great idea. During tax time, have every person fill out a form indicating whether they support the death penalty or not. For all those that do, they will be taxed for the costs of the execution, and for those who don't, they will be taxed for the cost of food and shelter for the prisoners (who may live in prison for up to 70 years).

...How will that work though...If for example You choose "I support Death Penalty" And Death Penalty is supported in your state, then you always end up paying and the people who didn't tick that box don't end up paying? And Vice Versa? ...I mean people would be looking up which box to tick to make sure they don't have to pay tax...so if Death penalty is gonna be the Taxer then they will choose non-death penatly, and vice versa.

I would have liked to see him fried in the electric chair back when he had the fro! Put a little tin foil in his hair and presto.........you have a light bulb!

Originally Posted by Stu

bleeding heart hippies who can legally posess steroids and personal amounts of narcotics

This explain s-o-o-o-o much.

Originally Posted by silencer

...How will that work though...If for example You choose "I support Death Penalty" And Death Penalty is supported in your state, then you always end up paying and the people who didn't tick that box don't end up paying? And Vice Versa? ...I mean people would be looking up which box to tick to make sure they don't have to pay tax...so if Death penalty is gonna be the Taxer then they will choose non-death penatly, and vice versa.

You'd be able to can change your mind, but only once a year. And it doesn't apply state-wide, only to the individual. The point is that those that choose to support criminals in prison can, and those that don't, don't have too.

Well yet again you are pointing out something I stated earlier : "The laws essentially reflect the society which governs that set area."

In the case of certain states the politicians who were elected by a Majority of the people in their state as their leaders make the decision. If you chose a govenor who supports the death penalty...thats you fucking problem if you don't like it..You voted for him or at least the majority of the people in your area did if you got a problem with it ...move. At the end of the day everyone should pay equally and follow a uniformed decision otherwise its gonna get complicated.

I agree with you, I just think that people should put their money where their mouths are, so to speak.

I think what you were trying to say is this ?

If all the people who are in favour of Stopping the death penalty in their state Tick the box of "STOP DEATH PENALTY" then those people alone will be taxed for supporting the criminals who are in life imprisonment. And I'm sure if only just over half support that idea, then the tax is going to be a lot higher for them, so much so they probably wouldn't care in the end (Although I wouldn't be surprised if some big celebreties said they would pay for it all).

Yet again, what about the people who were not included in this vote ? Ie the people who are 15, and then gain a taxable income at the age of 18, I'm sure they will vote PRO Death simply for financial reasons even if they don't believe in the death penalty...

Personally, I haven't made my mind up on whether I support/ don't support the death penalty. If someone murderd/raped my child I would want to see them tortured severly rather then just seeing the prick have a nice fat meal and then be put to sleep...that's a good way to go. On the other hand knowing that they are in jail makes me sick too...so I'm stuck. If I had my way I would force them to export the murderer to a Russian prison, and then pay some convicts to bum fuck the person Daily ( I just hope he doesn't like that )