Reasons

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Over the next seven years, Larry took on any fighter the promoters could throw at him and emerged victorious every time, sometimes picking himself off the canvas to do so.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Future WBA Champion Mike Weaver had him in serious trouble in the 10th before Larry came back in the very next round to drop “Hercules” twice before the referee called a halt to it.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Everybody thought Larry was through when Earnie Shavers landed that big right hand in the 7th round of their rematch; but somehow, through some bottomless reservoir of heart, courage, and will, Larry got up and out lasted “Mr. Devastation”, finally stopping him in the 11th. Being World Heavyweight Champion meant everything to Larry Holmes and you could feel that every time he climbed through those ropes.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Other notable defenses include wins over future Alphabet Soup Titlists, Trevor Berbick, Tim Witherspoon, and James “Bonecrusher” Smith.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:10 PM

Among future “champs”, Holmes also stopped the two men to precede him to the throne. Leon Spinks went down in 3 and an old Ali was forced to retire after 10.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:10 PM

. Throw in a few highly ranked and undefeated contenders such as Leroy Jones, Renaldo Snips, Gerry Cooney, and Carl “The Truth” Williams and what you’ve got is a resume that rivals those of both Louis and Ali. Seriously, do their records look that much better than Larry’s, if at all?

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:10 PM

Here’s a hypothetical questions: If there hadn’t been WWII, if there hadn’t been the social revolution of the 1960’s, if the playing field were equal, would Holmes be considered the best?

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:10 PM

Ali and Louis both had extraordinary circumstances surrounding their reigns, Larry just had Reaganomics.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:10 PM

. Louis reigned four years longer; but he was inactive as champion for four of those years. Why isn’t Larry Holmes considered the Greatest Heavyweight of All Time, is it because Louis and Ali were better or is it because the times in which they reigned were more memorable? Think About That!

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:11 PM

Joe had more power, Ali had more flash and pizzazz, and both had more charisma; but Larry had just as much heart and determination as the two of them and beat almost as many men of equal quality….maybe more.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:11 PM

This is about boxing, isn’t it? Larry Holmes was your ordinary average guy with a fire in his belly who wanted to prove to the world that he was somebody.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:11 PM

. He didn’t have Ali’s hand or foot speed or Louis’ fearsome punch; but what he did have was heart and skill and the drive to make the most out of the talent he did have, which was considerable.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:11 PM

In the end, if you take away the extracurricular circumstances, if you take away the “We’re gonna Win because God is on Our Side,” and “No Viet Cong Ever Called Me Nigger!”

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:11 PM

and focus just on what happened inside the ring, does Larry’s reign and accomplishments really differ that much?

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:11 PM

Don’t misinterpret this piece.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:12 PM

I’m merely playing the role of Devil’s advocate.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:12 PM

By no means am I saying Larry Holmes was the Greatest Heavyweight Champion of All Time.

TJ Cline · 01-03-2006, 11:12 PM

All I’m trying to get across it that the question is indeed worth asking. Is He??

TJ Cline · 01-04-2006, 04:00 AM

think

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TJ Cline · 01-04-2006, 04:01 AM

night

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TJ Cline · 01-04-2006, 04:01 AM

I have

TJ Cline · 01-04-2006, 04:01 AM

enough

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01-03-2006, 11:09 PM	#2491
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Over the next seven years, Larry took on any fighter the promoters could throw at him and emerged victorious every time, sometimes picking himself off the canvas to do so.
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01-03-2006, 11:09 PM	#2492
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Future WBA Champion Mike Weaver had him in serious trouble in the 10th before Larry came back in the very next round to drop “Hercules” twice before the referee called a halt to it.
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01-03-2006, 11:09 PM	#2493
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Everybody thought Larry was through when Earnie Shavers landed that big right hand in the 7th round of their rematch; but somehow, through some bottomless reservoir of heart, courage, and will, Larry got up and out lasted “Mr. Devastation”, finally stopping him in the 11th. Being World Heavyweight Champion meant everything to Larry Holmes and you could feel that every time he climbed through those ropes.
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01-03-2006, 11:09 PM	#2494
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Other notable defenses include wins over future Alphabet Soup Titlists, Trevor Berbick, Tim Witherspoon, and James “Bonecrusher” Smith.
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01-03-2006, 11:10 PM	#2495
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Among future “champs”, Holmes also stopped the two men to precede him to the throne. Leon Spinks went down in 3 and an old Ali was forced to retire after 10.
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01-03-2006, 11:10 PM	#2496
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	. Throw in a few highly ranked and undefeated contenders such as Leroy Jones, Renaldo Snips, Gerry Cooney, and Carl “The Truth” Williams and what you’ve got is a resume that rivals those of both Louis and Ali. Seriously, do their records look that much better than Larry’s, if at all?
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01-03-2006, 11:10 PM	#2497
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Here’s a hypothetical questions: If there hadn’t been WWII, if there hadn’t been the social revolution of the 1960’s, if the playing field were equal, would Holmes be considered the best?
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01-03-2006, 11:10 PM	#2498
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Ali and Louis both had extraordinary circumstances surrounding their reigns, Larry just had Reaganomics.
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01-03-2006, 11:10 PM	#2499
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	. Louis reigned four years longer; but he was inactive as champion for four of those years. Why isn’t Larry Holmes considered the Greatest Heavyweight of All Time, is it because Louis and Ali were better or is it because the times in which they reigned were more memorable? Think About That!
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01-03-2006, 11:11 PM	#2500
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Joe had more power, Ali had more flash and pizzazz, and both had more charisma; but Larry had just as much heart and determination as the two of them and beat almost as many men of equal quality….maybe more.
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544

01-03-2006, 11:11 PM	#2501
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	This is about boxing, isn’t it? Larry Holmes was your ordinary average guy with a fire in his belly who wanted to prove to the world that he was somebody.
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544

01-03-2006, 11:11 PM	#2502
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	. He didn’t have Ali’s hand or foot speed or Louis’ fearsome punch; but what he did have was heart and skill and the drive to make the most out of the talent he did have, which was considerable.
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544

01-03-2006, 11:11 PM	#2503
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	In the end, if you take away the extracurricular circumstances, if you take away the “We’re gonna Win because God is on Our Side,” and “No Viet Cong Ever Called Me Nigger!”
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544

01-03-2006, 11:11 PM	#2504
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	and focus just on what happened inside the ring, does Larry’s reign and accomplishments really differ that much?
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01-03-2006, 11:11 PM	#2505
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Don’t misinterpret this piece.
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01-03-2006, 11:12 PM	#2506
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	I’m merely playing the role of Devil’s advocate.
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01-03-2006, 11:12 PM	#2507
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	By no means am I saying Larry Holmes was the Greatest Heavyweight Champion of All Time.
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01-03-2006, 11:12 PM	#2508
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	All I’m trying to get across it that the question is indeed worth asking. Is He??
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01-04-2006, 04:00 AM	#2509
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	think
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TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	will
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TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	stay
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TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	up
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TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	night
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TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	I have
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TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	enough
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