Thread: President Bush

Originally Posted by Decker

Bush admitted in an address to the nation that he personally authorized domestic spying. How do you spin that?

But why didn't anyone throw the BS flag in the first place? You can't honestly tell me, that noone knew what was going on?

Originally Posted by DOMS

I'm certainly not a one of the rabid Bush haters, but this is a very poor line of reasoning.

Thank you. You beat me to it.

I bet there was less spying on Americans during the Civil War than there is today, remember the FBI's Carnivore system who knows what's recording and scanning all of our Internet, Email, Digital voice comms.

The issue isn't whether you are or plan on doing anything wrong we have our freedoms to ensure that no single group can take over our government and use it's powers to keep us from ever moving them out of office, so right now the President is using his powers to make sure there are no domestic Terrorists, whats next he believes only he can secure the Nation so he starts spying on anyone who will oppose him in a coming election or his parties next candidate, then abuse after abuse and we are no longer the same Nation and some ones taken all of our rights away for our own safety. Isn't that what the British were doing when they started taking away our Guns, searching our homes shortly before the American Revolution?

Originally Posted by dougnukem

But why didn't anyone throw the BS flag in the first place? You can't honestly tell me, that noone knew what was going on?

It was a secret concerning national security, I guess.

Originally Posted by Decker

Look at the link I provided above. Conyers has called for an impeachment investigation.

Oh come on, I'm not talking about some little pissant from Michigan. I'm talking about the big boys (and girls). Kennedy, Clinton, Kerry, Schumer, Pelosi, Boxer. If they really thought they had something on him they'd be coming out of their skins fighting for press coverage.

Originally Posted by Decker

I'd be happy to buy the first round...could you imagine doing this stuff shitfaced? I would think those packing heat would be at a distinct advantage. hahaha

Oh HELL no!!! If I'm sitting down enjoying some good whiskey I will NOT talk politics. Gorgeous women with big tits is the topic of the day. (With a generous dose of sports thrown in just for variety. )

Originally Posted by Decker

It was a secret concerning national security, I guess.

Exactly my point. You never know who is a part of anything when it comes to politics. Bush is just the obvious one, but I know he isn't the only one behind all this.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Oh HELL no!!! If I'm sitting down enjoying some good whiskey I will NOT talk politics. Gorgeous women with big tits is the topic of the day. (With a generous dose of sports thrown in just for variety. )

Is there any other topic to be talking about at a bar?

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Oh HELL no!!! If I'm sitting down enjoying some good whiskey I will NOT talk politics. Gorgeous women with big tits is the topic of the day. (With a generous dose of sports thrown in just for variety. )

You are man among men ALBOB.

. . . jeez, do I miss scotch whiskey.

Originally Posted by maniclion

I bet there was less spying on Americans during the Civil War than there is today, remember the FBI's Carnivore system who knows what's recording and scanning all of our Internet, Email, Digital voice comms.

There was no point to it. Back in those days, people didn't abuse their email.

Originally Posted by kbm8795

Thank you. You beat me to it.

NP

Well boys and girls, I think it's that time. This seems to be one of the most heavily trafficed threads so I'll use this venue to bid you farewell. Have a Merry Christmas and I'll pick up where we left off next week. Glad we could end on a positive note; whiskey, boobs and sports. See ya'

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Well boys and girls, I think it's that time. This seems to be one of the most heavily trafficed threads so I'll use this venue to bid you farewell. Have a Merry Christmas and I'll pick up where we left off next week. Glad we could end on a positive note; whiskey, boobs and sports. See ya'

Cya.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Well boys and girls, I think it's that time. This seems to be one of the most heavily trafficed threads so I'll use this venue to bid you farewell. Have a Merry Christmas and I'll pick up where we left off next week. Glad we could end on a positive note; whiskey, boobs and sports. See ya'

As usual a pleasure Albob. Merry Xmas!

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

there's really nothing new with this and Bush isn't where it began. police monitor people they suspect without warrants all the time without being able to use the info against them.

not to mention...made a wireless call in the last 15 years or so? well guess what -- good chance someone/somewhere was monitoring it.

Wow someone else realizes this has gone on prior to Bush. But I say we use our present day common sense and blame Bush for it. I can't wait until there is a democrat in office, I'm going to do the same thing they've been doing to Bush. I'll blame them for everything negative that exists. No I'm not a republican although they do piss me off less than the democrats.

Also why would I care what people hear me say on the telephone? I'll just make sure I don't take part in any terrorist plots.

Several years ago I was called to install a Motorola 2-way radio in a New York Telephone (Anyone remember Ma Bell) van, this was for the Secret Service. Inside this van they had a shit load of surveillance equipment...the roof vent was actually sort a periscope, it had 3 recorders and this was before I ever knew such a thing existed...one of those devices that lets you listen from far distances.
On the outside it looked like a regular work van but inside it looked like a 007 car.

The agents job was to screw with your phone from where ever and then he would go to your house and "repair" your phone....he was actually tapping the perp's phone. This was in 1986.

You know, I really didn't want to bump this thread, as it's getting to be a stale topic, but I couldn't help but post this. I had done some reading on this topic this morning, and realized something. A lot of folks, especially one's that have posted here, are under the wrong assumption. This whole spying thingis not something they are doing to everybody, which a few of you have made it clear that's what is happening. From what I gathered, the only people they are "spying" on are folks who have already been established as possible links to terrorists and the like. With that being said, it now makes much more sense as to their reasoning for doing so, and it's relativity to the War on Terror. So they're not going around tapping everyone's phone, or watching you via satellite, unless of course, you happen to be connected to Bin Laden or the like. Just some food for thought.

Bush is a poopie head.

So...uhhh...you don't like bush?

Originally Posted by DOMS

So...uhhh...you don't like bush?

Well I like poop, but no, I don't like Bush.

George Bush licks marshmallows and then sticks them to his naked body.

Sometimes George Bush likes to wear rubber underwear filled with tapioca pudding. The lumpier the better so he claims.