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    Min0, other NY'ers how you folks getting around?

    This is the worst time of year for them to strike, I think it shows poor taste on their part. I am just thinking of old folks trying to fight the cold weather to get to their doctors appointments, people who had plans to hit a few stores to get Christmas presents after work, now they have to re-plan everything around no Subway or Bus transportation. It's just a rotten time to do this to everybody.
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    I wonder how many others had a day like this?

    "I left my house in NJ at 5 a.m. in order to attempt to make it to work on time. After standing in a 45 minute cab line, I was able to make to the office to discover that only I and another employee from New Jersey had attempted to come in to our department. Instead of handling my normal workload, I am currently working as a telephone operator trying to calm my clients when my coworkers are not here. What an efficient day."
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    When I read the topic the first image in my mind was min0, standing curb-side with a sign that reads, "Will trade tranny sex for travel!"
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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    I am on vacation again. But I did have to drive the spouse to work so that sort of sucks.

    NYC relies on mass transit big time.

    I really can't blame them at all for striking, they are trying to cut out there benefits and lay off workers but in the meantime they are raking the dough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfs3
    When I read the topic the first image in my mind was min0, standing curb-side with a sign that reads, "Will trade tranny sex for travel!"

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    My father in-law retired from the MTA 7 years ago and it was a good place to work in at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee
    I am on vacation again. But I did have to drive the spouse to work so that sort of sucks.

    NYC relies on mass transit big time.

    I really can't blame them at all for striking, they are trying to cut out there benefits and lay off workers but in the meantime they are raking the dough.
    Were there alot of bikers and walkers out. I remember when The Bus went on strike here there were hundreds of walkers and bicyclist everywhere crossing streets, it made driving worse because you had to keep an eye out for jaywalkers.
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    they cancelled my fuckin finals damnit! now i gotta wait that much longer to get wasted as part of my celebration to the end of the semester
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    I imagine in Manhatten being like that, you are only allowed to drive there only if you have a minimum of 4 passengers per car, if you went solo to Manhatten they would send you away.

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    The public schools opened much later today...some opened at 10:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanick
    they cancelled my fuckin finals damnit! now i gotta wait that much longer to get wasted as part of my celebration to the end of the semester
    They did the same to my spouse.

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    I find this strike interesting because I feel that most unions are getting weaker in this day and age.

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    I heard the workers are getting fined $45,000 a day for striking
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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee
    I find this strike interesting because I feel that most unions are getting weaker in this day and age.
    They need to get weaker, they just had a transit strike here in Philly, the strike point...The transit workers did not want to pay for a portion of their healthcare. The concept of unions is good, but they have gone corrupt.
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    The MTA workers are a bunch of assholes!

    The fuckers that clean the stations and sit in the information booths make $45,000/year, medical insurance that they don't pay anything for, a 50% pension when they retire and they can retire at the age of 55! Give me a fucking break! They make more then teachers, police officers and firefighters. They make more then lawyers starting out in the city and people with MBAs. They make more then people that start out on wall street too. They need to shut the fuck up. The drivers get $65,000. I am cool with that. They have a serious, responsible job and they are in charge of the lives of others. But the others need to quit being pussies. I have never seen a clean subway stop or met a pleseant information person....they do nothing!! They are bitching because they have to pay a small fee for health insurance now? To bad! So does everyone else. Why are there lay offs? Because the people in the informatino booths don't need to sell tickets anymore. They have machines to do that. These people are suck a bunch of losers. They should all be fired. I am sure there are tons of people in the city that would take their job in a second.
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    I took the conductors test a few years ago and I would have proudly marched with them if I were to work there.

    Sanitation also makes more than the NYPD why? Stronger union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee
    I took the conductors test a few years ago and I would have proudly marched with them if I were to work there.

    Sanitation also makes more than the NYPD why? Stronger union.

    I don't know why? Possibly stronger union. I believe the NYPD just took a pay cut. I think those guys start at something absurd like $25000 (I can't remeber exactly) depending on where they are working.

    Like I said, I have no problem with the conductors. They have a serious job and I put them right up there with pilots since they are incharge of lives. They can't mess around. it is the others that i can't stand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    The MTA workers are a bunch of assholes!

    The fuckers that clean the stations and sit in the information booths make $45,000/year, medical insurance that they don't pay anything for, a 50% pension when they retire and they can retire at the age of 55! Give me a fucking break! They make more then teachers, police officers and firefighters. They make more then lawyers starting out in the city and people with MBAs. They make more then people that start out on wall street too. They need to shut the fuck up. The drivers get $65,000. I am cool with that. They have a serious, responsible job and they are in charge of the lives of others. But the others need to quit being pussies. I have never seen a clean subway stop or met a pleseant information person....they do nothing!! They are bitching because they have to pay a small fee for health insurance now? To bad! So does everyone else. Why are there lay offs? Because the people in the informatino booths don't need to sell tickets anymore. They have machines to do that. These people are suck a bunch of losers. They should all be fired. I am sure there are tons of people in the city that would take their job in a second.


    to add, i also think its pretty selfish to fuck with so many people/businesses just so you can get a pay raise for sitting on your ass. i mean it was friggin havoc, took my dad 3 hours to get to work today and another 2.5 to get home. and to top it all off, i now have this last final hanging over my head until january 6 which is like a week into my winter semester, which means this week and next week, which were supposed to be my weeks to relax before the shit storm i call school starts again, i will have to be all wound up thinking about that fucking final.

    anyone got any rough statistics on how much money was lost today because everything was so shut down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanick


    to add, i also think its pretty selfish to fuck with so many people/businesses just so you can get a pay raise for sitting on your ass. i mean it was friggin havoc, took my dad 3 hours to get to work today and another 2.5 to get home. and to top it all off, i now have this last final hanging over my head until january 6 which is like a week into my winter semester, which means this week and next week, which were supposed to be my weeks to relax before the shit storm i call school starts again, i will have to be all wound up thinking about that fucking final.

    anyone got any rough statistics on how much money was lost today because everything was so shut down?

    they said they will cost the city over 400 million dollars a day everyday they are out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    they said they will cost the city over 400 million dollars a day everyday they are out!
    400 million x 365=WTF!
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    STRIKE!
    'Shut everything down,' says TWU chief as bus, subway workers walk
    BY ADAM LISBERG and PETE DONOHUE
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    Transport Workers Union Local 100 President Roger Toussaint speaks at rally outside Gov. Pataki’s midtown office yesterday. Judge imposes $1M-a-day fine; click here for latest updates

    City subway and bus workers stormed off the job early today, paralyzing the nation's busiest transit system and leaving millions of commuters in an abyss of uncertainty just five days before Christmas.
    Unable to reach an agreement after days of contentious talks centering around wages and pensions, more than 33,000 transit workers waged an illegal walkout that will cost them - and the city - untold millions.
    Transport Workers Union Local 100 even defied its own parent union, whose leader urged them to go back to the table amid apparent progress in talks.
    "Shut everything down, then talk," TWU Local President Roger Toussaint declared to the cheers of his executive board in a closed-door meeting shortly before 2:30 a.m.
    "We're on strike, brother!" said a union rep who showed up at an East Harlem bus depot this morning with a bullhorn and picket signs.
    After Toussaint's official 3 a.m. televised announcement declaring a strike, motormen and bus drivers completed their rounds - but it was unclear when the city would start rolling again amid the city's first transit strike in a quarter century.
    Sources said last night that the MTA has offered a three-year contract with raises of 3%, 4%, and 31/2%.
    The MTA also was willing to back off changing the pension age for new employees - but called for the new hires to contribute 6% of their salaries toward retirement funds for their first 10 years on the job.
    In addition, management offered to add Martin Luther King Day to the list of union holidays.
    Sources said that the executive board of Local 100 voted by a 3-to-1 margin to strike - but that the move was opposed by TWU International President Michael O'Brien.
    O'Brien noted that the MTA made concessions on crucial pension issues - and said going back to the negotiations table would be far better than absorbing huge fines from an illegal strike, the sources said.
    The union defied O'Brien, who refused to authorize the strike, but said he wouldn't stand in the local's way, sources said. The move means the local risks losing crucial legal, financial and other support from the parent union.
    Now union leaders face possible jail time, as well as massive fines for Local 100 and its workers, under the state's Taylor Law.
    Mayor Bloomberg, who spent the night on a cot at the Office of Emergency Management, was set to hit streets this morning to cheer on 7 million daily mass transit rider trying to get to their jobs by car pool, bicycle and roller skates and on foot.
    "The truth of the matter is, it's going to be a gridlock that will tie the record for all gridlocks," Bloomberg said. "And we are going to have to learn how to deal with that," he added. "And I am going to be out there and I want everybody's cooperation. . . . We are going to go on."
    Meanwhile, parents were scrambling to make child-care arrangements with city schools set to open two hours late. All days off were canceled for cops, who were set to patrol streets in 12-hour shifts.
    NYPD overtime was expected to hit $10 million a day - part of a $400 million daily economic hit the city will take at the height of the holiday shopping and tourism season, officials say.
    The mayor has issued an executive order - his first since the 2003 blackout - giving him the power to enforce major restrictions of traffic into Manhattan, and to fine offenders up to $500.
    The preparations were a repeat from last week's initial 12:01 a.m. Friday deadline. Both sides agreed to stop the clock and keep talking at the Grand Hyatt hotel.
    But precious little progress was made, and last night talks broke off shortly before 11 p.m., with no hope in sight. "The MTA has put a fair offer on the table," agency spokesman Tom Kelly said. "Unfortunately, that offer has been rejected."
    Queens residents got the first taste of rush-hour madness yesterday when workers with two private bus lines went on strike as part of a Local 100 plan to up the pressure on the MTA. Some 750 drivers walked off the job, forcing 50,000 people to find other ways to get around.
    "It makes me feel disgusted," said Rosanne Barbera, 48, of Queens, who was stranded when private bus drivers struck. The roiling emotions surrounding the bus and subway talks could be seen at a huge rally outside Gov. Pataki's midtown office, as transit workers shouted, "Shut it down!"
    The MTA was demanding that the union accept alterations to the pension plan for new hires, citing huge deficits starting in 2008. The agency called for the retirement age to be pushed back to 62, instead of the current 55 - but backed off that late last night.
    The union argues that the MTA, which has a $1 billion year-end surplus, has long overstated its financial woes.
    Under the Taylor Law, striking workers will lose two days' pay for every day off the job, and the union will be hit by crushing fines.
    "Obviously I'm worried, because the penalties are severe," said subway motorman Neil Bernard, 54.
    "But we're pushed to the point where we have to do what we have to do to make it better for us," he added. "I feel we're being lowballed by the MTA. They have a surplus right now - still, we have to fight to get a fair deal."
    The TWU has drawn the support - moral and financial - of other major unions, which have painted the negotiations as vital to the future of labor strength in New York.
    Pressed by reporters yesterday, Bloomberg said the possibility of changing pension benefits for new city workers "is something we have to think about."
    Striking bus drivers and subway motormen promised to complete their final runs and not abandon passengers. The union was planning protests around the city beginning today - and there were rumblings that some commuter rail line workers would refuse to cross picket lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    I am sure there are tons of people in the city that would take their job in a second.

    That is what I don't understand. I took the Metro while up there and didn't talk to a single person. Here in Philly, I would have simply fired those fuckers and taught others how to do it. This is $2, this is a token, this is a transfer. $2=token=transfer, if you receive any one of them, let the person by, if not, they don't get by. You could teach a fucking monkey how to do that, only problem is the monkey would smile more and not sigh when he has to sit up out of his chair to take the token.

    MLB had it right when those shitbag umps decided to strike, fire those shits. For every dickbag who thinks he has it rough, there are 50 people who would kill to be in his position.
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    Quote:
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    I am sure there are tons of people in the city that would take their job in a second.

    I am one of those, but in my case I would still bust my ass like I do at my present job.

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    Simple solution:

    "Ohhh...You want to go on strike? Well....you're fired!!!!

    "Anybody want a decent paying job and not have to do shit? You're hired!!!"

    Problem solved. It is amazing how easy some of the biggest problems can be solved if people in charge had some balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee
    I am one of those, but in my case I would still bust my ass like I do at my present job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themamasan
    Simple solution:

    "Ohhh...You want to go on strike? Well....you're fired!!!!

    "Anybody want a decent paying job and not have to do shit? You're hired!!!"

    Problem solved. It is amazing how easy some of the biggest problems can be solved if people in charge had some balls.
    President Reagan did just that with the air pilots union back in the early 80's I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee
    President Reagan did just that with the air pilots union back in the early 80's I believe.

    actually, didn't he call in the national gaurd to run the airports?
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