MyK

By David DeAngelo of www.doubleyourdating.com

Disc 1

Don’t ask, LEAD.

Attraction is nature’s way of taking over our bodies long enough to mate with someone with good genes.

There’s a difference between ATTRACTION and AFFECTION. A woman may feel affection for you (LJBF), but it doesn’t follow that she’s also attracted.

The Paradox of Sexual Communication: When it comes to attraction, many of the “rules” of human communication are reversed. Sometimes pursuing will make someone run, while retreating will make them pursue you. Being nice to someone won’t always cause them to react nicely to you.

There are 4 steps to successfully seducing a woman:

Step 1 Sparking the Attraction

Step 2 Building Sexual Tension

Step 3 Amplifying the Attraction

Step 4 Physically Advancing


Sexual Tension

Sexual Tension is a combination of various things:
-Body language
-Humour
-Teasing
-Subtle word plays that HINT at liking someone while actually being very interested in them
-Playing hard to get

Women are much better at interpreting, receiving, and sending subtle body language. Most women understand sexual tension very well.

An exercise to eliminate limiting beliefs:

1) List 10 beliefs you have about your ability to attract women sexually.

2) Next, think about where those beliefs came from.

3) Take the negative ones, the ones that aren’t serving you, and come up with a list of situations where each belief hasn’t held true. Learn to doubt your own negative beliefs.

4) List the beliefs you’d like to replace the negative beliefs with. Make a list of 10.

5) Turn the list into 10 affirmations
• Present tense and positive
• Write them out every day
• As you write them, imagine the kind of success that’ll flow from each belief as you adopt it

Recommended reading: Body Language by Julius Fast. Focus on Chapter 7, “The Hidden Language of Love”


Disc 2

Women are attracted to certain traits. Women will test you and challenge you to see if you have these traits. If you start failing these tests, the tests will become tougher and more intense, and her attraction for you declines.

Confidence is the LACK OF INSECURITY.

Dominance is not being DOMINEERING. Dominance means being a leader; domineering (control-freak) belies insecurity. Dominance/domineering, control/controlling.

You can be both selfish and generous at the same time. Being selfish isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It means that you expect the best for yourself and you don’t sell yourself short.

Composure/unflappability: Always keep your cool.

Being selective, and communicate that you’re selective. Not just with women, but with all things in life. Don’t settle for crap!

Be judgmental: Don’t overdo it, but the more you comment on other people, the more you appear as the authority. Use humour (think Triumph the Insult Comic Dog).

Don’t accept second class behaviour or treatment from others. “I don’t accept second-class behaviour from myself or from anyone else. If you show me second-class behaviour, I won’t want to deal with you.”

Be territorial: Talk about how only good people enter your house, how this is a place of good energy and there’ll be no drama there. Talk about how this is a safe place where she can be free to do what she wants. If you’re in public and someone is in your space, ask them to leave. Carve out some territory. Sit at a bigger table. Spread out when you sit down.

Being in control of yourself and your sex drive. Pull back after kissing for a bit, etc. Demonstrate you’re in control of your sex drive, but just BARELY.

Live in your own reality. Reality is what YOU make of it. Consider other people as GUESTS IN YOUR REALITY, and not as masters/definers of your reality.

Physical way to communicate these traits: Gestures, posture, strong eye contact. LIFT THE CHEST (it does a lot to your whole body). Use slow, deliberate gestures and speak slowly.

Testing

Women test men for all sorts of reasons, and it’s mostly an unconscious process. Attractive women have a lot of options, and prefer men who are STRONG OF CHARACTER. If you were an attractive woman being chased by hundreds of guys, how would you go about eliminating the losers? You’d TEST them, in subtle ways that test for strength and personality. If you did this on a regular enough basis, this behaviour would become unconscious and automatic.

Women will ALWAYS test you! Deal with it, learn how to handle it, and move on.

A couple concepts to keep in mind:

1) Get over the idea of JUST BEING YOURSELF. For most guys, just being themselves is being a manipulative, ass-kissing wimp. They like to give women gifts, act submissive, call them all the time, which is actually manipulative behaviour in that it’s NOT being themselves.

2) Women interpret everything. They don’t take things at face value—they read into everything. Learn to communicate subtly in a way that’s NOT explicit. If it’s explicit or direct, it’s suspect. She’ll wonder “Does he really mean that?” By keeping your communications implicit and ambiguous, she can figure it out for herself.

3) Always remember that to a woman, it’s all “part of the story”. You don’t want to use standalone techniques one after the other. You need to fulfill women’s fantasies of the romantic story that just happens, and unfolds.

Attitudes

1. There is NO downside. There’s nothing to lose at any time with a woman. IT DOESN’T MATTER.
2. I’m indifferent to the outcome. Detach yourself emotionally from any outcome. If it doesn’t happen, it’s really no big deal. It doesn’t matter! If you’re not indifferent, you worry about screwing things up.
3. I’m a catch, and time with me is rare and valuable. If you spend time with a woman, SHE is getting the better end of the deal.
4. She wants me, but I’m going to tease her to see HOW MUCH! You know for sure that if she got to know you, she’d want you.
5. She’s going to have to prove herself to me that she’s ABOVE AVERAGE. Her exterior appearance doesn’t entitle her to special treatment.

Strategies

• STEAL HER FRAME! Use her own game against her. “Is that all I am to you, a sex object?”
• BE A CHALLENGE. Present a challenge in all situations. Play hard to get by talking to her a bit and then walking away. If you’re shopping with her, go to another part of the store to shop on your own. If she wants something, resist. People don’t want things that are readily available to them.
• BE MYSTERIOUS. Never answer the typical common questions

16 Specific Techniques

1. Never give a woman a direct answer, unless it’s NO. “Did you like that kiss?” “YOU obviously did”.
2. Answer questions with questions that implicate her, or get her to commit to something. “What are you doing Friday night?” “Well, what did you have in mind?” or “Why, what were you going to do for me?”
3. If she complains or doesn’t like something, turn it up and give it back to her. She says “I don’t like that station”, you turn it up a notch and smile at her. You don’t have to be an ass, you can tone it down after. But just show that you aren’t easily controlled and are independent of what she thinks.
4. Never give a woman exactly what she asks for. “Will you take me to Cheesecake Factory on Friday at 7:00?” “No, I’ll pick you up at 8:00 and we’ll go to The Keg.”
5. Always send mixed signals. For example, be physically generous and giving, but verbal communication-wise be busting on her.
6. Use the technique of “Let’s be friends”. When sexual tension is built up, say “It’s going to be nice getting together with you, if nothing else you seem like you’d make a nice friend. See you tomorrow.” Communicates that you’re not needy, that you’re not going to just jump her bones because she’s a woman.
7. Don’t be predictable! Don’t wear the same clothes, don’t go out to the same place all the time, don’t always talk about the same things.
8. Don’t be BORING! Don’t be average, don’t do the same thing that 90% of the guys she meets do.
9. Be DISTINCTIVE. Find ways to be unique in a preferential way. Don’t buy the same shoes everybody’s wearing, or get a distinctive haircut. Don’t talk about boring hobbies, talk about the interesting stuff. Order distinctive drinks at the bar.
10. Never act apologetic. Don’t act insecure, or like you’re trying to gain approval.
11. Two steps forward, one step back. You’re always making progress, but when you make progress, you stop and you step back a little bit. As soon as you can tell she likes what you’re doing, STOP…lean back….and make her want more of it.
12. Never let the line go slack. Sexual tension is about TENSION. You’re always sensitive to the sweet spot, the right amount of tension to achieve your goal. Don’t do too little and don’t cross the line.
13. Always raise and call her bluff. If a woman gives you some tension or tests you, call her on it. “I’m leaving, that’s it” “Ok. Don’t let the door hit you ass on the way out”. In most cases she wasn’t planning to follow through—it was a TEST.
14. Once you find a cocky/funny role that’s working, stick with it.
15. Lead and move forward confidently. Be decisive, and decide what’s gonna happen. Order for her at dinner, walk ahead of her and open the door for her. Step forward confidently. If a woman doesn’t like what you’re doing, don’t apologize for it. Act like it’s her problem.
16. Don’t be a WUSSY! If you see yourself slipping into wuss mode, IMMEDIATELY stop, and step back. Hang up the phone. If you have to, walk away. “You know, this really isn’t working for me anymore. I think I’m just going to bring you home, and go relax.”

Exercises

1) Make a list of 5 masculine traits you’d like to cultivate, then think immediately about ways to go about acquiring those traits.
2) List 10 past situations where you can clearly remember a woman testing you to see how much control she had over you. Remember how you dealt with it then, and remember how you’d deal with it now that you know better.
3) Take the list of 16 techniques above, and come up with one way that you could use each of the 16 immediately. And then get out there and start using them.


Disc 3

You can activate the ‘bad boy’ attraction in women without including the abuse component.

Sparking attraction/Chemistry

What is attraction/chemistry? Most women know exactly what it is, most men don’t. “Chemistry” is a reference to a feeling, an emotion. Anticipation is another big part of this puzzle.

FLIRTING

Women know what flirting is. They respond very differently to flirting than they do to regular communication. Think of flirting as playing. “Hi, I just wanted to say that I find you really beautiful” is NOT flirting. You have to be UNserious. “I realize you’re probably shy because you get no attention from men whatsoever, so I decided to come over and pay attention to you”. One of the keys to flirting is just to GET IT. Get out there and practice to get a feel for how it works. Don’t take negative reactions personally.

There’s a lot of things you can do to flirt that don’t involve WORDS. Use body language.

• Give her a hard time about something in a funny way.
• Fake despair at something she’s doing.
• Be overly dramatic and make complaints about something she’s doing
• Pick anything physical about her or the way she communicates and say “You know what they say about women who ________.” Then don’t tell her what they say.

COCKY AND FUNNY

The bad boy or jerk uses this to attract women, but you can take it and extract it and leave all the abuse behind.

Remember that the formula is cocky PLUS funny. If you’re just cocky, you’ll appear insecure and arrogant. If you just use funny, then you’ll come off as being goofy.

Cocky statement: That dress makes her look fat
Cocky and funny statement: If she doesn’t find a dress that fits her better, the fashion police are going to send in the SWAT team for her ass!

When done properly, C&F directly and indirectly says all the right things about you. Women are attracted to alpha males with a sense of humour. Busting on a hot woman says “You’re interesting enough for me to talk to, but you’re going to have to do a lot more to impress me. Your beauty doesn’t affect me in the slightest, and I’m even comfortable enough to make fun of you in a playful way.”

Turn her questions around on her and back at her. “What do you do?” “You couldn’t handle the answer”. “What kind of car do you drive?” “A Ford Pinto. I’ve got a killer 8-track deck in it. Wanna see?”

Compliments: Make them backhanded or put a sarcastic spin the end.

Play the “would you” game. How much money would it take for you to (be a stripper, change the oil in my car, have sex with an 80 year-old man, etc). Whatever she says, try to talk her down.

MISCELLANEOUS

One of the best ways to deal with drama or tests is to find it funny. Chuckle at her—“You’re so cute when you’re mad”. You show it doesn’t affect you, and that makes a big impact and keeps you in control.


Disc 4

Work on speaking slower and deeper, and…using…PAUSES. Gesture deliberately and get rid of any ticks or nervous habits.

Lean away from women when talking, rarely lean in.

Attraction + obstacles equals EXCITEMENT

Stop acting like you’re trying to get something, and demonstrate with your actions that SHE is going to get something.

A person will only do something that they’ve first seen themselves doing in their mind. When you create anticipation she thinks about the two of you together.

Rest of disc describes process of initiating sex presented in the Double Your Dating e-book

Why do women break it off with guys after 2 or 3 dates? Or after 2 or 3 YEARS? It’s because the attraction they had for you is GONE. If you want women to continue to be attracted to you, you need to keep being unpredictable, etc. Always sharpen the saw! Stay on the cutting edge and don’t slip into the abyss of being boring. Keep it up by doing the things that work.

TJ Cline

I didn't read this thread but I respect what you are doing.

topolo

I don't

BigDyl

True Story, I read every word.


Maybe this will help me spit better game at foreman...i mean some girls are the bar.

Total ownage.

fufu

I read the whole thing too.

maniclion

MyK

it was just a word document I found on limewire, I just cut a pasted it!

its good material though!

MyK

this is some more shit that I had, Its taken from the Mystery Method. Mystery is arguably the best Pickup artist or venusian artist in the world!







Kino

Today I want to talk about a concept that is crucial to being successful: kino (short for kinesthetic) escalation and compliance. This is a somewhat complex topic, making this issue pretty dense. It's ok if you don't fully get it the first time through. Read it, practice it, save it, read it again, and then come back to it in a few weeks. This is a topic we spend a lot of time on at the bootcamp and needs a lot of demonstration. This is just a taste, but will hopefully get you started.

Why is kino important? Well, take this situation -- you've been talking to a girl for some time and you two are getting along great. You're both laughing and smiling and she's eating it all up. However, to take this from a nice playful interaction to the beginning of a sexual relationship, you need to make something else happen. You need to touch her. If you don't do that, all of this fun talking counts for nothing. She ends up leaving with a guy she seemed to be all over within minutes of meeting him. "He's just better looking," you may rationalize to yourself. Nope. He knew how to use kino and you didn't. He engaged her sense of touch while talking to her. You just talked to her. You = nice guy. Other guy = the prize.

Why does this happen? Initiating kino (touching) is so important because you have to get a girl comfortable with accepting you in her physical space. When you first meet a girl, it is imperative to touch her as soon as possible in the RIGHT way. This does not mean aggressively groping and
pawing at her. You need to start touching her in a nonsexual way. For example, if you go up to a girl and start chatting, you mention that where you are from has a secret hand shake. You then demonstrate it on her. Congratulations -- you have started to get her accustomed to your touch while also teaching her something and having a fun time.

You also have to escalate the touching. For example, you cannot kiss a girl who is uncomfortable with your holding her hand. You cannot hold hands with a girl who is uncomfortable with you
shaking her hand. There is a progression. The level of kino that you start with, for example, by thumb-wrestling her or by touching her on the shoulder while you make a point will not be
sufficient to help you move in for the kiss. Similarly, you can't usually move from kissing to sexual intercourse.

So you're probably asking how you can make a girl comfortable with your touch, and how you can escalate the touching. Here are three secrets:

1. Do not touch her, make her touch you.
2. When she does touch you, push her off before she has a
chance to get uncomfortable.
3. When she re-initiates kino after and because of #2, you
escalate. Then, repeat #2.

To illustrate this, let's look at the difference between what a "generic guy" would do and what a "Mystery Method" man would do for the specific example of hand-on-leg:

GENERIC GUY: Puts his hand on a girl's knee. If she lets it stay there, move it up, inch by inch, over the course of a conversation to see if she allows it. If she does allow it to rise a bit, then try to put her on his lap and/or try to kiss her.

Likely result: eventually she'll become uncomfortable and resist his advances. This not only kills the kino progession but also sets up the dynamic of Him: wanting intimacy. Her: withholding intimacy that won't lead anywhere for him.

MYSTERY METHOD MAN: Takes the girl's hand and put it on his knee. Subtly notices her comfort level with this. When she becomes uncomfortable, or at a convenient point (when she did something "wrong" even in a playful sense), takes her hand and puts it back. The man is the one to break the kino. When she either re-initiates kino or after a decent interval has passed, say 5 minutes, he escalates the kino (puts her on his lap or puts her arm around him, etc.).

Likely result: When he pushes her off, she will feel the loss more strongly than she felt the discomfort of his making the move and she will either reinitiate or she will feel so uncomfortable that she lets him make the next move without any hesitancy.

To summarize, almost every move we make is going to be making the girl touch us. We will not put our arm into the girl's arm; instead, we will put her hand on the inside of our arm.
Then we gauge her reaction as soon as she starts to feel the discomfort of our making this move. We then push her off of us. This has often been misunderstood as "two steps forward, one
step back". However, there's more to it than this. With two steps forward and then one step back, you are still validating her by touching her while moving back. For example, when you
are making out with a girl you could go one step back by holding and cuddling her. This is good because it shows that you are not needy and not always trying to aggressively push the interaction sexually. Yet, its drawback is that it does not make her feel the loss of pushing her off you because you are still physically touching her. She will still feel validated and happy just
cuddling you. She may re-escalate intimacy back to kissing, but if she doesn't, there's nothing you can do about it.

The correct concept is actually "one step forward two steps back”. In the above example instead of stopping the make out and still cuddling with her, we will push her off of us completely. Believe me, she will feel the loss. This way, when we reinitiate, she will be markedly more willing to accept our move as she has felt the loss from our releasing before. Now if we repeat this sequence a few times we will make her much more comfortable with our making moves on her. It will also make her feel that she is seducing you. Remember -- don't do this in an angry or sulky way. Be playful. Keep talking. Enjoy yourself.

With me so far? Good, because now it's about to get more complicated.

The second element of kino escalation is the compliance factor. If you put her hands on your knees and they stay there she is complying with your request. We want to build a compliance chain from talking to her and telling her to give us her hand all the way to having her complying with requests in the bedroom, including beginning a physical relationship. If you want a girl to do a spin for you, you would not just take her hand and tell her she's going to do a spin. Instead you will tell her to give you her hand and then you will do some sort of interesting routine involving her hand like the hand shake routine I described above or the thumb crack routine we teach in seminar. You can tell her that this is what she gets to do when she's good. Then spin her. Do you guys see all the little things she has complied to leading up to her being spun? Compare that to just telling her to spin for you. If you do that and she says "no" you have nowhere to go. If she refuses any of the small hoops earlier, you still have a way to back up and reinitiate because she has not shut you down entirely.

The way that you must work your way up the kino escalation ladder, is the same way that you build a compliance chain. You start out with small requests such as getting her to let you see her hands, then you build up into bigger requests such as telling her to bite your neck.

Every step that we take up the compliance chain is one step closer to the bedroom. The fact that she is willing to meet our demands means that on some level she is looking for our approval. Don't go overboard with this tool! Compliance escalation is very subtle. Never address it directly. Don't make it blatant. Don't make it a big deal. There's a big difference between subtle,
playful, fun compliance escalation leading to the beginning of a physical relationship and being pushy and domineering.

Anyway -- when she meets our requests we will approve and show approval. But it will never be a full approval as we have to withhold full validation so that she continues to comply. When
she declines to comply with a request, we will go into a freeze out. A freeze out can take many forms, but in it's simplest form it is withdrawing attention without pouting. If I am talking to a
girl and we are past the attraction phase and she does something I do not like, I will not neg or tease her. Instead, I will simply turn my body language slightly away from her and I will
get quiet. This will force her to reinitiate as she feels the loss of your attention from the conversation. This creates a gap and she will feel compelled to fill this gap. This is when
she will reinitiate, most likely with a question such as, "Where are you from?" This is when the freeze out will end as she has made an effort again. In essence the freeze out is a tool to
get her to comply to reinitiating the chat. If she does not decide to reinitiate, I will reinitiate over the shoulder with only my neck turned to her. Then I will start to make her comply and qualify herself and SLOWLY turn my body to face her before moving forward again with the interaction. The reason for this slow down is her lack of compliance if she is not complying to my every demand, there is a punishment.

A lot of the venusian arts can be derived from the ideas of punishment and reward. We want to always reward the girl for her compliance and we want to always punish her for her disobedience. This leads to her wanting to move away from the punishment and towards the reward. This will lead her to comply more and more, and hopefully to the beginning of some great relationships with desirable women.

Play with this and try it out. It's not easy to get the hang of, but once you do, your game will shoot through the roof!

MyK

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KelJu

This stuff really is incredible. I have put a lot of time into studying the material and learning to use it. The payoffs are now starting to roll in. I highly highly suggest this material to anyone who has ever been called "nice". Seriously, no joke! If your friends describe how you interact with women as nice, you are shooting yourself in the foot.

Even if you are "ok" with women, this material can carry your game to the next level. I still can't believe the amount of sucess I have had recently just by adopting these patterns of interaction. I have been able to make make hot ass club girls do anything I want them to do...and I mean anything.

HialeahChico305

I never believed in any article that says it will help you pick up women. I'm a firm believer that either your good at pickin up chicks or your not, and either women are attracted to you or not, period. After scammin thru it I tought it was some crap, but after reading your post, and of course knowing that you never post spam Im willing to take a real good look at everything that was posted above.

danzik17

Note to self: Read this.

Ron Paul 2008

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fufu

I remember reading this back in '06. Yes, there is validity to alot of it and using alot of these concepts, along with things I have come to experience, I have attracted alot more females.

It's not bullshit.

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fufu

Most people just go through the motions of basic human behavior...it's so easy to manipulate. You may think it is gimicky because the topic often is, but alot of the same concepts for picking up woman are used to develop power positions in all sorts of situations. Work, friends and family.

Becoming aware of other's behaviors is very empowering.

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Hoglander

I just listen to all the blah, blah, blah like I really truly care. You all are making an easy job hard, IMHO.

maniclion

I'm just glad all the women I've been with just found me charmingly irresistible. For me just getting them laughing and enjoying themselves is enough...I've never had to insult a woman nor act like a dominant alpha male. Most times just being yourself and comfortable is best then you don't have to work at anything and you can truly appear laid back. And that brings me to one of the most important things, always appear to be at home where you're at. Example your at a club with booths that form a semi circle around a table sit in the middle, put your arms back resting on the edge of the seat back you know spread out it opens you up and makes you look like you are confident and don't feel the need to be protective better than sitting with both hands around your glass like you think someones going to steal it from you and then beat you senseless...sort of like a peacock spreading his tail feathers. I learned that from an older man who caught me in his hot tub with his daughter, I was sitting with my hands under water on my knees. He says "look at you, you look scared to death. If you want to get anywhere with the girls you gotta spread out look relaxed and confident. Put your arms up on the edge and let every muscle in your body go loose." I am dead serious he told me this. And not 5 minutes prior his daughter had her hand down my shorts But ever since I stuck to those words of wisdom.

KelJu

Less than 5% of people are naturals at this material. If you are among the 5%, good for you.

Human interaction, interpersonal skills, and leadership skills are among the hardest skills to delevop. NLP was invented 40 years ago, and has since become one of the most valuable skills you could possibly gain.

Few are born or raised to have these abilities. Most people are completely oblivious to them. No other skill on the earth is more important to success in the business world as communication. Most of the information in this thread was not designed by pick-up artist to get chicks. It was designed by the best psychologists, psychotherapist, and linguistics experts in the world as a model for understanding and replicating human excellence and personal growth.

Pick-up artist David DeAngilo, arguable the best pick-up artist in the world, developed his system from hard scientific data and years of research.