Thread: Cartoon rage

AP PHOTOFirefighters struggle to put out flames after thousands of angry Syrian demonstrators stormed the Danish Embassy in Damascus on Saturday, Feb. 4, 2006 and set fire to the building

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, Cherry cheese danish.

The Danish have been very tolerant and respectful nation (just look at how they behaved in WWII!).

How many anti-christian/jewish cartoons are there in the middle-east that go un noticed.

For a religion that preaches tolerance and peace, the behaviour doesnt seem fitting.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Hmmmm.....I don't think "Muhammed" would have given two shits about a silly cartoon, now on the other hand I don't think a wise man like "Muhammed" would approve of what his people are doing.

Maybe Jesus would not have approved of the way 100,000+civilians during the last Iraq war (and many more before with sanctions)were killed in Iraq. Maybe Jesus would not have approved, of the amazing double standards regarding Israel's possession of Nuclear weapons, and the huge hype being created over Iran with their possible development of them.

I personally think it's daft to get worked up about cartoons. But the 'West' (or Christian- if it can be called that.... world) is being slightly hypocritical about this. Enough trouble has been caused in the Middle East, courtesy of the creation of Israel and Western interfering....

So if the Muslims are behaving in a slightly 'over sensitive' way , what's suprising about that?

Originally Posted by Nick+

I personally think it's daft to get worked up about cartoons. But the 'West' (or Christian- if it can be called that.... world) is being slightly hypocritical about this. Enough trouble has been caused in the Middle East, courtesy of the creation of Israel and Western interfering....

How is it hypocritical, would the West get pissed if the same were done with Jesus? Prolly a few zealots would get pissed, but i doubt they would torch anything. This level of overreaction is exactly why they can't have nukes, if you so much as sneeze in their direction they will drop the bomb on you.

I think the people burning down the Danish (and other) embassies are behaving like a load of kids.

But the 'West' no longer has a "moral" foot to stand on. And( in the case of certain Danish, French etc 'right wing' newspapers) should stop provoking, things are bad enough.

Originally Posted by Nick+

Maybe Jesus would not have approved of the way 100,000+civilians during the last Iraq war (and many more before with sanctions)were killed in Iraq. Maybe Jesus would not have approved, of the amazing double standards regarding Israel's possession of Nuclear weapons, and the huge hype being created over Iran with their possible development of them.

I personally think it's daft to get worked up about cartoons. But the 'West' (or Christian- if it can be called that.... world) is being slightly hypocritical about this. Enough trouble has been caused in the Middle East, courtesy of the creation of Israel and Western interfering....

So if the Muslims are behaving in a slightly 'over sensitive' way , what's suprising about that?

Tolerance as preached by an anti-Semitic.

Originally Posted by Nick+

I think the people burning down the Danish (and other) embassies are behaving like a load of kids.

But the 'West' no longer has a "moral" foot to stand on. And( in the case of certain Danish, French etc 'right wing' newspapers) should stop provoking, things are bad enough.

"I" "noticed" "that" "you" "didn't" "put" "the" "word" "French" "in" "quatation" "marks."

Originally Posted by DOMS

"I" "noticed" "that" "you" "didn't" "put" "the" "word" "French" "in" "quatation" "marks."

Because I'm surrounded by them.

And do stop getting out your tarring brush, in response to those who question or oppose the way Israel has carried on these last 40 years, it does not make such people 'anti-semetic'. I suspect that you Mr.DOMS have more brain cells, than to be spewing out such (possibly Zionist) detrius.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

How is it hypocritical, would the West get pissed if the same were done with Jesus? Prolly a few zealots would get pissed, but i doubt they would torch anything. This level of overreaction is exactly why they can't have nukes, if you so much as sneeze in their direction they will drop the bomb on you.

I always knew you were a closet right winger.

Originally Posted by Nick+

Because I'm surrounded by them.

And do stop getting out your tarring brush, in response to those who question or oppose the way Israel has carried on these last 40 years, it does not make such people 'anti-semetic'. I suspect that you Mr.DOMS have more brain cells, than to be spewing out such (possibly Zionist) detrius.

Everytime the Jews are brought up, you have something negative to say, but never anything negative to say about the Palestinians. Even though they constantly murder children. Oh, in case you've become lost in this coversation, this is the part where you try to defend their actions by trying to say how many Palestinians they have killed. Even though the Israelis target military targets while the Palestinans routinely target civilians.

Originally Posted by topolo

I always knew you were a closet right winger.

That, or perhaps he just thinks they are asshats, in a non-political sense.

What kind of people would kill over a cartoon?

4 dead today in some ME sh*thole.

These people are screwed up.

And yes, as a poster pointed out, there is heavy anti-christian and Jewish and anti hindu sentiment in these Muslim countries.

Originally Posted by DOMS

That, or perhaps he just thinks they are asshats, in a non-political sense.

I have an aversion to stupidity, save for when it is coming from me.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

How is it hypocritical, would the West get pissed if the same were done with Jesus? Prolly a few zealots would get pissed, but i doubt they would torch anything. This level of overreaction is exactly why they can't have nukes, if you so much as sneeze in their direction they will drop the bomb on you.

Exactly.

I have no sympathy for these people. I'm all about respecting one's religion, but where were these people when all of these bombings occur in "Allah's name"???? Isn't that more of an abomination of their religion that a cartoon? Weren't these people cheering on 9/11??

Sooner or later people are going to have enough of Muslims. That may not be popular, but this is completely out of hand. By their actions, they are proving the cartoon right. Why not a peaceful demostration??? Wouldn't that make more of a statement?

They're chopping heads off, while we question our President for listening to their phone calls. We humiliate them, it's called torture... they disembowel us, it's rewarded with virgins;

We get blasted for the casulaties of missions... how many women & children have been killed with these suicide bombers?

We are going to lose this war if we don't change. It's an absolute joke. The New York Times & ACLU should be brought up on charges.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I have an aversion to stupidity, save for when it is coming from me.

What about when it is coming in you?

Originally Posted by topolo

What about when it is coming in you?

That was addressed in the second half of his sentence.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

We are going to lose this war if we don't change. It's an absolute joke. The New York Times & ACLU should be brought up on charges.

If we lose this war it will be because we have our own christo-fascist nutcase commanding the military, and our own Taliban screaming about free expression every time someone asserts their right not to subscribe to the 700 Club.
Seems to me the perpetrators of the abortion clinic bombings, the gay bar bombings, the Oklahoma City federal building bombing, and the bomb during the Olympic Games in Atlanta were right wingnuts.

P.S. - No one said the President can't seek warrants to wiretap on suspicious phone calls. Except himself . . . cuz. . .well, it's an inconvenience to adhere to the Constitution. Maybe we need to bring the Republican Party up on charges if the war on terror is lost because America surrendered its freedom to the President without a single question. That would be, naturally, a President who doesn't uphold his oath of office and an Attorney General who thinks his job is to treat the President as his 'client" rather than uphold the laws of the nation. Republicans are gonna have to work a little harder to convince the country that we have to scrap defending and upholding our Constitution in order for them to keep us "safe."

We lost the war on terror the moment our government encouraged paranoia.

Originally Posted by kbm8795

Maybe we need to bring the Republican Party up on charges if the war on terror is lost because America surrendered its freedom to the President without a single question. That would be, naturally, a President who doesn't uphold his oath of office

And yet he was re-elected. As bad a job as he is doing, if you are bringing anyone up on charges, it should be anyone of the morons that voted for his ass.

Originally Posted by kbm8795

If we lose this war it will be because we have our own christo-fascist nutcase commanding the military, and our own Taliban screaming about free expression every time someone asserts their right not to subscribe to the 700 Club.
Seems to me the perpetrators of the abortion clinic bombings, the gay bar bombings, the Oklahoma City federal building bombing, and the bomb during the Olympic Games in Atlanta were right wingnuts.

P.S. - No one said the President can't seek warrants to wiretap on suspicious phone calls. Except himself . . . cuz. . .well, it's an inconvenience to adhere to the Constitution. Maybe we need to bring the Republican Party up on charges if the war on terror is lost because America surrendered its freedom to the President without a single question. That would be, naturally, a President who doesn't uphold his oath of office and an Attorney General who thinks his job is to treat the President as his 'client" rather than uphold the laws of the nation. Republicans are gonna have to work a little harder to convince the country that we have to scrap defending and upholding our Constitution in order for them to keep us "safe."

We lost the war on terror the moment our government encouraged paranoia.

Critics love to use the 9/11 commission against Bush.... so look again...

Bush administration critics continue to insist that the president could have gotten all the wiretap authority he needed from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to intercept terrorist communications as they plotted the next 9/11 attack

But it turns out, the 9/11 Commission strongly disagreed.

As noted on yesterday's "Meet the Press" by National Review Online reporter Byron York, 9/11 Commission Report clearly states:

"The FISA application process continues to be long and slow. Requests for approvals are overwhelming the ability of the system to process them and to conduct a surveillance.”

In a passage not noted by Mr. York, the Commission blasts the FISA process even more harshly, complaining:
"The 'wall' between criminal and intelligence investigations apparently caused agents to be less aggressive than they might otherwise have been in pursuing Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) surveillance powers in counterterrorism investigations.

"Moreover, the FISA approval process involved multiple levels of review, which also discouraged agents from using such surveillance. Many agents also told us that the process for getting FISA packages approved at FBI Headquarters and the Department of Justice was incredibly lengthy and inefficient.

"Several FBI agents added that, prior to 9/11, FISA-derived intelligence information was not fully exploited but was collected primarily to justify continuing the surveillance."

Originally Posted by busyLivin

Critics love to use the 9/11 commission against Bush.... so look again...

Bush administration critics continue to insist that the president could have gotten all the wiretap authority he needed from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to intercept terrorist communications as they plotted the next 9/11 attack

But it turns out, the 9/11 Commission strongly disagreed.

As noted on yesterday's "Meet the Press" by National Review Online reporter Byron York, 9/11 Commission Report clearly states:

"The FISA application process continues to be long and slow. Requests for approvals are overwhelming the ability of the system to process them and to conduct a surveillance.”

In a passage not noted by Mr. York, the Commission blasts the FISA process even more harshly, complaining:
"The 'wall' between criminal and intelligence investigations apparently caused agents to be less aggressive than they might otherwise have been in pursuing Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) surveillance powers in counterterrorism investigations.

"Moreover, the FISA approval process involved multiple levels of review, which also discouraged agents from using such surveillance. Many agents also told us that the process for getting FISA packages approved at FBI Headquarters and the Department of Justice was incredibly lengthy and inefficient.

"Several FBI agents added that, prior to 9/11, FISA-derived intelligence information was not fully exploited but was collected primarily to justify continuing the surveillance."

So then the approval process needs to be fixed, not completely circumvented.

Originally Posted by kbm8795

Seems to me the perpetrators of the abortion clinic bombings, the gay bar bombings, the Oklahoma City federal building bombing, and the bomb during the Olympic Games in Atlanta were right wingnuts.

This is a sad comparison to the Islamist fascists.. no explanation necessary.

No one said there wasn't nut jobs on both sides, but I plan to racially profile Muslims when I get on an airplane until they start having demonstrations against the bombings & convince me otherwise.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

So then the approval process needs to be fixed, not completely circumvented.

fu

man

Side note, I find it humorous that these Muslims are marching the streets in protest to the cartoon while burning the Danish flag... which bears a cross representing Christianity!

I just find the Muslims laughable.