Poverty

**TJ Cline** · 02-09-2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

You must be poor if you are drinking that swill.

True story.......just another middle class slave with dreams of being one of the "new rich."

**BulkMeUp** · 02-09-2006, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

look.....if the poor really bother him so much then do something about, educate them or just shoot them.....get off your damn ass and do something.

Paying lip service never helped solve anything!!

**brogers** · 02-09-2006, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Oh so I see you know about the spoiled bigot, look.....if the poor really bother him so much then do something about, educate them or just shoot them.....get off your damn ass and do something.

Here's what I'd do: I'd stop the government from stealing from those who work hard and redistributing to lazy, irresponsible idiots (or anyone for that matter). I'm willing to bet poor people spend more money on lottery tickets than anyone, more on alcohol, more on cigarrettes.

The government is MAKING him "do something" (stealing his money via taxes). Surprisingly, giving away freebies to people in poverty doesn't encourage people to work.

If someone who is poor is busting their ass they won't be poor for long.

**brogers** · 02-09-2006, 01:07 PM

BTW since we started doing all these retarded social programs the "wealth gap" that every socialist loves to refer to has only increased. Your solution? more government involvement. Great idea, let's take a miserable failure of a program and give it more support.

**BigDyl** · 02-09-2006, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by brogers

If someone who is poor is busting their ass they won't be poor for long.

**brogers** · 02-09-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

intelligent response, from an intelligent person.

**BigDyl** · 02-09-2006, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by brogers

intelligent response, from an intelligent person.

True Story

**Dale Mabry** · 02-09-2006, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by brogers

Here's what I'd do: I'd stop the government from stealing from those who work hard and redistributing to lazy, irresponsible idiots (or anyone for that matter). I'm willing to bet poor people spend more money on lottery tickets than anyone, more on alcohol, more on cigarrettes.

The government is MAKING him "do something" (stealing his money via taxes). Surprisingly, giving away freebies to people in poverty doesn't encourage people to work.

If someone who is poor is busting their ass they won't be poor for long.

Let's get real for a second, I am totally against welfare, but that is a drop in the bucket. If the gov't had a flat tax rate that we all could deal with we wouldn't be able to go invade any country we want like we do now.

**min0 lee** · 02-09-2006, 01:17 PM

I read the first two sentences and stopped, I fall in the middle class bracket and I don't think the poor should live on easy street but at the same time they could use some help to get them back at there feet...I never realized you were filthy rich Brogers.

**TJ Cline** · 02-09-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by brogers

Here's what I'd do: I'd stop the government from stealing from those who work hard and redistributing to lazy, irresponsible idiots (or anyone for that matter). I'm willing to bet poor people spend more money on lottery tickets than anyone, more on alcohol, more on cigarrettes.

The government is MAKING him "do something" (stealing his money via taxes). Surprisingly, giving away freebies to people in poverty doesn't encourage people to work.

If someone who is poor is busting their ass they won't be poor for long.

I agree 100%....but corporate welfare is ok

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/
http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

**DOMS** · 02-09-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by brogers

If someone who is poor is busting their ass they won't be poor for long.

If you have no need to change, odds are you won't.

What you will do is look at those who have more than you and whine about how life isn't fair.

**brogers** · 02-09-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I read the first two sentences and stopped, I fall in the middle class bracket and I don't think the poor should live on easy street but at the same time they could use some help to get them back at there feet...I never realized you were filthy rich Brogers.

Right some giving them freebies for being poor is encouragement to not be poor. Welfare doesn't pay that well, but the hours a great. Know what I mean?

**min0 lee** · 02-09-2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by brogers

BTW since we started doing all these retarded social programs the "wealth gap" that every socialist loves to refer to has only increased. Your solution? more government involvement. Great idea, let's take a miserable failure of a program and give it more support.

Well then what do we do? Send them to a penal colony? Justt sweep them under the rug and forget about them?

You seem pretty knowledgable....what's your answer to this problem.

**brogers** · 02-09-2006, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Let's get real for a second, I am totally against welfare, but that is a drop in the bucket. If the gov't had a flat tax rate that we all could deal with we wouldn't be able to go invade any country we want like we do now.

I don't think we should invade either, why risk American's lives? If we are going to attack someone we should be willing to completely obliterate them. If you aren't willing to do what it takes to win (destroy the enemy) you shouldn't enter a conflict. And if you're not willing to destroy the enemy, you shouldn't be there.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-09-2006, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Well then what do we do? Send them to a penal colony? Justt sweep them under the rug and forget about them?

You seem pretty knowledgable....what's your answer to this problem.

I have the perfect response to this, but I am not going to say it because it is as offensive as you can get.

**brogers** · 02-09-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Well then what do we do? Send them to a penal colony? Justt sweep them under the rug and forget about them?

You seem pretty knowledgable....what's your answer to this problem.

Socialist bullshit was tried in the 1600's in the colonies and it failed on that miserably small scale. John Smith had it right: "No work, no food."

Welfare is a de facto incentive to NOT WORK. You don't reward failure. You don't give your dog a treat when he shits on your carpet, do you?

EDIT: I believe the poor should be helped, but it should be through private charities, not the government forcing their burden upon the country. Not to mention, I think some ridiculously small percentage of money earmarked for "social programs" actually gets to the person in need. It goes alot more to pay government workers handsome salaries than someone struggling. The entire thing is inefficient and needs to be done away with.

**DOMS** · 02-09-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by brogers

intelligent response, from an intelligent person.

That's a typical post from BigDyl.

**BigDyl** · 02-09-2006, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

That's a typical post from BigDyl.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-09-2006, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by brogers

Welfare is a de facto incentive to NOT WORK. You don't reward failure. You don't give your dog a treat when he shits on your carpet, do you?

We are in a system that rewards stupidity. See Pussification of America, or just browse civil lawsuits for examples.

**DOMS** · 02-09-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Well then what do we do? Send them to a penal colony? Justt sweep them under the rug and forget about them?

You seem pretty knowledgable....what's your answer to this problem.

What you do is be realistic. You cannot force change on people without striping them of thier basic rights and dignity. You cannot force someone to be a better person. The one thing you don't want to do is make them dependent on others for their well being.

**brogers** · 02-09-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

We are in a system that rewards stupidity. See Pussification of America, or just browse civil lawsuits for examples.

it's pretty disturbing.

**DOMS** · 02-09-2006, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Boy, you might be legally retarded.

.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-09-2006, 01:32 PM

What's all this "might" talk?

**TJ Cline** · 02-09-2006, 01:32 PM

Funny thread.....we have middle class people bitching about the tiny benifits the poor get.....and ignoring the huge benefits of corporate welfare. Just proves the worship of wealth is more important to some than having legitimate laws that treat all people equally....LMAO

http://education.yahoo.com/reference...ntry/sycophant

**BigDyl** · 02-09-2006, 01:34 PM

True Story, I don't have time to write a long winded post right now.

**DOMS** · 02-09-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Funny thread.....we have middle class people bitching about the tiny benifits the poor get.....and ignoring the huge benefits of corporate welfare. Just proves the worship of wealth is more important to some than having legitimate laws that treat all people equally....LMAO

http://education.yahoo.com/reference...ntry/sycophant

Those "tiny" benefits are counter-productive.

Oh, I'm middle class now, but I grew at the bottom of the lower class. How did I make the move? Not through some "Please sir, may I have some more?" social program. I worked hard and learned well.

What's funny is that you come from a middle (possibly upper class) family, and you're trying to say how life in the lower class should be handled.

That's rich.

**DOMS** · 02-09-2006, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

What's all this "might" talk?

Hey, it was a quote from "Sean Connery."

**min0 lee** · 02-09-2006, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I agree 100%....but corporate welfare is ok

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

I work for a place like that!

**TJ Cline** · 02-09-2006, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

Those "tiny" benefits are counter-productive.

Oh, I'm middle class now, but I grew at the bottom of the lower class. How did I make the move? Not through some "Please sir, may I have some more?" social program. I worked hard and learned well.

What's funny is that you come from a middle (possibly upper class) family, and you're trying to say how life in the lower class should be handled.

That's rich.

My post was a challenge to all you sycophants to prove to us that the welfair of the poor costs the tax payers ( the middle class) more than that of the rich.

My family is very rich ( not Trump rich though) and I have seen first hand the privlages of wealth......they are disgusting.

**DOMS** · 02-09-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

My post was a challenge to all you sycophants to prove to us that the welfair of the poor costs the tax payers ( the middle class) more than that of the rich.

Social programs account for 34% of national budget. Granted, some of that is spent on schools (badly managed), but a large portion of that is spent on social program. The real cost goes beyond money. Among the money things that it "costs" us, is the social mire it creates that helps to keep the poor in their current condition. Along with all the associated crimes, broken families, etc.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

My family is very rich ( not Trump rich though) and I have seen first hand the privlages of wealth......they are disgusting.

I'm crying on the inside.

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