Thread: Which Country should we (USA) bomb next?

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Apples and Oranges.

They are both religions.

Originally Posted by DOMS

That's what I was saying. And yes, the Bible has some pages of intolerance, but it's nothing compared to the Koran. Not even close. I'm not big on dumping on people's religion, but I utterly detest the Muslim faith.

The New Testament is not bad, but the old Testament is filled with brutality murder and rape....approved by God.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

The New Testament is not bad, but the old Testament is filled with brutality murder and rape....approved by God.

Could you post the passage where rape is approved by God? The murder I can see. It's usually done to preserve a group of people.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Could you post the passage where rape is approved by God? The murder I can see. It's usually done to preserve a group of people.

Just the old Testament as far as I remember


(Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."

Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.






(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.


(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.




Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

(2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]



(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

(Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Just the old Testament as far as I remember

For starters, you didn't "remember" anything. You just pilfered this text from some anti-Christian website.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Judges 21:10-24 NLT

Who are "they". It sounds like some people kidnapped some people on the way to a festivel of the Lord. They were taking the Lord's people, not the other way around. Did you even read this stuff?

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Judges 21:10-24 NLT

Now this one sounds legit. But we'll get back to this at the end.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Deuteronomy 20:10-14

This one also sounds legit, but keeping the spoils of war is a tradition that's been around since the dawn of man.


and on, and on...

A couple of notes:
The most telling thing about these quotes is that they're not from the original King James version of the Bible, but are from two other "translations". Didn't you notice that they needed to go to different translations to get quotes? Why not just get it from one? The answer: because they can then pick and choose. This doesn't speak well of them.

Also, taking people and livestock as spoils of war was the norm then. If you didn't take the women and children, they would have no providers and would die of exposure or starvation. And why not take a perfectly good cow or goat when the owner was dead? You're trying to project the modern age back over two thousand years.

Thanks for the passages though.

I believe they are from the New American Bible???? That is the one I have and the passages are about the same. I have looked up many of these quotes in the King James version of the Bible and some are even worse in that translation.

As far as what was the norm then, that can also apply to the Koran so that comment is irrevelant.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I believe they are from the New American Bible???? That is the one I have and the passages are about the same. I have looked up many of these quotes in the King James version of the Bible and some are even worse in that translation.

As far as what was the norm then, that can also apply to the Koran so that comment is irrevelant.

They problem is that the Muslims still practice them.

Originally Posted by DOMS

They are both religions.

And religions are cults...

Originally Posted by DOMS

They problem is that the Muslims still practice them.

True

Originally Posted by BigDyl

And religions are cults...

Get a dictionary.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

And religions are cults...

"A cult is a religion with no political power."

Originally Posted by DOMS

Get a dictionary.

http://www.dictionary.com

Originally Posted by BigDyl

http://www.dictionary.com

http://www.tfd.com/

A dictionary and so much more.

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Muslims are f*cked.

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

Muslims are f*cked.

RACIST!!!!!!


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Originally Posted by BigDyl

RACIST!!!!!!


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True story

Originally Posted by BigDyl

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Try and recite it now....

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Try and recite it now....

Looks good...wait...

Oh my god! How could destroy such a beautful thing!

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Try and recite it now....

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Looks good...wait...

Oh my god! How could destroy such a beautful thing!

now you can't jerk off

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

now you can't jerk off

That must be a part of NLP that I haven't got to yet.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

now you can't jerk off

That's ok.. I'm going to go do some mutiplication of very large integers in my head... maybe that'll get me in the mood again...

Originally Posted by DOMS

That must be a part of NLP that I haven't got to yet.

It was that brainman thread that bigdyl posted the other day. He went on and on about how beautiful pi was and when the sizes of the numbers were changed, it became ugly and wreched. That guys is amazing but very eccentric, like most geniuses.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

It was that brainman thread that bigdyl posted the other day. He went on and on about how beautiful pi was and when the sizes of the numbers were changed, it became ugly and wreched. That guys is amazing but very eccentric, like most geniuses.

It's even more beautiful when it's correct: 3.1415926535897932384