Thread: These People Demand Citizenship!!!

Originally Posted by clemson357

Is it just me, or does it seem illogical to protest for AMERICAN citizenship, while flying a Mexican flag, or disgracing an American flag by flying it upside-down? Or hold a rally where you chant in spanish?

If you want to convence someone to let you immigrate, wouldn't it make sense to show respect for the American flag, and form a well-articulated argument IN ENGLISH?

Kind of like those Muslims in France who rioted, burned cars, and assaulted police officers because of those cartoons depicting Muslims as irrational and violent....

Another Racist thread.....big surprise.

It boggles my mind that people can protest the enforcement of a pre-existing law that they are breaking. There are plenty of ways to get citizenship, speaking English should be a pre-requisite. I think if perhaps a few of them took a cue from the many people who come here legally and attain citizenship, this problem would be resolved.

Originally Posted by clemson357

Is it just me, or does it seem illogical to protest for AMERICAN citizenship, while flying a Mexican flag, or disgracing an American flag by flying it upside-down? Or hold a rally where you chant in spanish?

If you want to convence someone to let you immigrate, wouldn't it make sense to show respect for the American flag, and form a well-articulated argument IN ENGLISH?

Kind of like those Muslims in France who rioted, burned cars, and assaulted police officers because of those cartoons depicting Muslims as irrational and violent....

I say deport the retards.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Another Racist thread.....big surprise.

Another worthless post....big surprise



Tell me, exactly what race am I bigoted against to say that people supporting immigration should show respect for the country they want to immigrate into? Foreman, you are just another irrational liberal without the brain capacity to form an original thought.

Originally Posted by clemson357

Another worthless post....big surprise



Tell me, exactly what race am I bigoted against to say that people supporting immigration should show respect for the country they want to immigrate into? Foreman, you are just another irrational liberal without the brain capacity to form an original thought.

When you poat a thread that is not bashing: Blacks, Mexicans or Arabs I will let you knoiw son.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

When you poat a thread that is not bashing: Blacks, Mexicans or Arabs I will let you knoiw son.

Shit, those greedy blacks, mexicans, and arabs sure have sealed there own fate, right foreman? Thats not racism, that classism, right? you are a fucking idiot.

Originally Posted by clemson357

Shit, those greedy blacks, mexicans, and arabs sure have sealed there own fate, right foreman? Thats not racism, that classism, right? you are a fucking idiot.

Look up classism and get back to us son

missile away

clemsons worst nightmare

The crutch of the weak-minded:

Originally Posted by clemson357

Another worthless post....big surprise

Originally Posted by clemson357

The crutch of the weak-minded:

I agree, and so is this

Foreman, you are a weird individual

It's like you hate being white. You act like you're a black person, a mexican person, a hispanic person, and you always get so angry whenever someone .. usually clemson, post something about politics or immigration or low class society. In fact, you hate america.

I mean, if you hate it so much .. why don't you go move. If you don't support anything then get out.

yeah....

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

Foreman, you are a weird individual

It's like you hate being white. You act like you're a black person, a mexican person, a hispanic person, and you always get so angry whenever someone .. usually clemson, post something about politics or immigration or low class society. In fact, you hate america.

I mean, if you hate it so much .. why don't you go move. If you don't support anything then get out.

I want to move into your house son, now shut up and go pop a zit.

Originally Posted by clemson357

yeah....

I bet you like how they are holding the flag

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I want to move into your house son, now shut up and go pop a zit.

Why dont you grow up? You're 38 years old for christ sake.

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

Why dont you grow up? You're 38 years old for christ sake.

I'm growing right now thinking of you

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

Foreman, you are a weird individual

It's like you hate being white. You act like you're a black person, a mexican person, a hispanic person, and you always get so angry whenever someone .. usually clemson, post something about politics or immigration or low class society. In fact, you hate america.

I mean, if you hate it so much .. why don't you go move. If you don't support anything then get out.

Foreman definitely hates white people, which is strange because he looks like a redneck in his gallery...pale, cut-off shirt...

Originally Posted by clemson357

Foreman definitely hates white people, which is strange because he looks like a redneck in his gallery...pale, cut-off shirt...

clemson's America

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

It boggles my mind that people can protest the enforcement of a pre-existing law that they are breaking. There are plenty of ways to get citizenship, speaking English should be a pre-requisite. I think if perhaps a few of them took a cue from the many people who come here legally and attain citizenship, this problem would be resolved.

It's not quite that easy to gain citizenship. It's not something you can just apply for. I've been here on visas that I have to re-apply for yearly since 1999. I am probably 2 years away from getting a Green Card still and will NEVER be elligible for citizenship. The only reason I have it so easy is because I have a degree and a job where the company is willing to sponsor me.

And that pre-existing law is a law that hasn't been enforced really ever. We are talking about people that have lived and worked here for 30-40 years. They have American children and grandchildren and many of them spent years working under the table for you and me doing yard work, etc. They haven't exactly been hiding. Even police, government buildings, politicians and immigration officers have been employing them for years... and now all of the sudden we are going to enforce the law and throw them out of a country they have called home for 40 years?

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

It's not quite that easy to gain citizenship. It's not something you can just apply for. I've been here on visas that I have to re-apply for yearly since 1999. I am probably 2 years away from getting a Green Card still and will NEVER be elligible for citizenship. The only reason I have it so easy is because I have a degree and a job where the company is willing to sponsor me.

And that pre-existing law is a law that hasn't been enforced really ever. We are talking about people that have lived and worked here for 30-40 years. They have American children and grandchildren and many of them spent years working under the table for you and me doing yard work, etc. They haven't exactly been hiding. Even police, government buildings, politicians and immigration officers have been employing them for years... and now all of the sudden we are going to enforce the law and throw them out of a country they have called home for 40 years?

That’s funny, because I go to college with about a 1000 legal immigrants every semester who have no trouble at all attaining their proper documentation.
What you mean to say is someone who is poor, uneducated, and too fucking lazy to pick up a book and learn English can't just apply for citizenship.

Originally Posted by KelJu

That’s funny, because I go to college with about a 1000 legal immigrants every semester who have no trouble at all attaining their proper documentation.
What you mean to say is someone who is poor, uneducated, and too fucking lazy to pick up a book and learn English can't just apply for citizenship.

Of course you do. Student visas can be obtained by anyone. It's one thing to get a student visa. It is something else completely to get citizenship or a green card.

Yeah.....how dare anyone fly a flag that ain't American?


Well, except maybe these traitors. . .with the Stars and Bars. . .

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

Foreman, you are a weird individual

It's like you hate being white. You act like you're a black person, a mexican person, a hispanic person, and you always get so angry whenever someone .. usually clemson, post something about politics or immigration or low class society. In fact, you hate america.

I mean, if you hate it so much .. why don't you go move. If you don't support anything then get out.

There was another post made by another member that was similar but I side with Foreman on Clemson.
I would love to see him post something positive or different, I also post threads about current events but not insult that persons race.
I have been around a lot of good people from other races to know better.


We all have our prejudices, I can understand that but Clemson's a little coward who will not admit it. At least Richyo.. admitted to being a bigot, and you know what....I respect him for that.

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Of course you do. Student visas can be obtained by anyone. It's one thing to get a student visa. It is something else completely to get citizenship or a green card.

he's right.

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

It's not quite that easy to gain citizenship. It's not something you can just apply for. I've been here on visas that I have to re-apply for yearly since 1999. I am probably 2 years away from getting a Green Card still and will NEVER be elligible for citizenship. The only reason I have it so easy is because I have a degree and a job where the company is willing to sponsor me.

And that pre-existing law is a law that hasn't been enforced really ever. We are talking about people that have lived and worked here for 30-40 years. They have American children and grandchildren and many of them spent years working under the table for you and me doing yard work, etc. They haven't exactly been hiding. Even police, government buildings, politicians and immigration officers have been employing them for years... and now all of the sudden we are going to enforce the law and throw them out of a country they have called home for 40 years?

Not me, I am from VT, no Mexicans up there.

It is not that difficult, I have friends who have done it, you have managed nicely it seems. You have to be here for like 5 years and then pass a test. Provided you fill out paperwork you are pretty good to go. I can see how that would be a problem for someone who doesn't speak English. More of an issue, I believe, is paying taxes. See where that $8 an hour takes them then. If they are just given citizenship, a family of 4 can't live on $8 and prolly qualifies for welfare.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

he's right.

Ok, let me explain this a little more. I realize that a student visa isn't citizenship. I have a handful of friends that have already applied for their citizenship. My friend, Mo, says that he was allowed to apply after being a legal resident of the US for 5 years, which worked out well for him, because he will be graduating right at about the same time as his paperwork goes through. Basically, all he had to do was renew his student visa every year for five years then take a test and apply for citizenship where he then will swear in, and became a full fledged American. He also told me that his brother has already gone through the process, but came to the US on a work visa. The same process applies. All he had to do is keep renewing his work visa every year for five years, and maintain residence in the US. At the end of the 5 years he applied and was granted citizenship. By the way, Mo and is brother are from Pakistan, so you can not tell me that it is harder for a Mexican to be granted citizenship than an Arab.
You know what did make the whole process a lot easier for them?

KNOWING HOW TO FUCKING SPEAK ENGLISH!!!

If you are too stupid or uneducated to figure out how to apply for a work visa, then I do not want you to come here. The collective intelligence of the US is low enough as it is without people bringing it down lower.
I am going to ask some of my other friends if they plan to immigrate to the US, and how hard it was for them to do so. I will let you guys know what they have to say about the subject, because I am sure they can provide some insight into this.