Bush pokes fun at himself

BigDyl · 05-01-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Steele20

Can't handle the truth can we?

Hmm... I'll let Decker deal with the likes of you.

Decker · 05-01-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Steele20

"actually his approval rating is 32%"

Most people who don't like Bush, don't like him for no reason at all. Probably about 75% of people here do not have a ligit reason for not liking him.

Nonsense. There's always an object for scorn or hatred. Take your pick:

Iraq
Economy
Katrina
Medicare 'reform'
9/11
Environmental policy
Torture
Secrecy
Rendition
Spying
And he's just a small man in a big job. Completely out of his depth.

True blind hatred is difficult to find. Unless you look to the Clinton Bashers. The guy balanced the budget. Manufactured a surplus. Shrunk the size of government. Was tough on Welfare. Was so pro-business it was sickening.

Yet Conservatives hated this "liberal."

Decker · 05-01-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Hmm... I'll let Decker deal with the likes of you.

My posting was pure coincidence.

I am, in fact, Batman.

Steele20 · 05-01-2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker

Nonsense. There's always an object for scorn or hatred. Take your pick:

Iraq
Economy
Katrina
Medicare 'reform'
9/11
Environmental policy
Torture
Secrecy
Rendition
Spying
And he's just a small man in a big job. Completely out of his depth.

True blind hatred is difficult to find. Unless you look to the Clinton Bashers. The guy balanced the budget. Manufactured a surplus. Shrunk the size of government. Was tough on Welfare. Was so pro-business it was sickening.

Yet Conservatives hated this "liberal."

Okay, I pick all of them. Tell me each reason you don't like him. Because most those reasons for disliking Bush are stupid IMO.

*wont be able to argue until I get back tomarrow morning!

Big Smoothy · 05-01-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lnvanry

There is no such thing as true impartial unbias snafu.

Its very, very rare. Its no so much what the networks say, but what they chose to not say and how they say is what makes the bias. They all report the same facts, but present them in different manners.

Of course there is bias and impartiality. This is human.

But the degree of bias has been very bad.

And I don't just mean political spectrum bias, but nationalist bias, politically correct bias, and other forms.

**CowPimp** · 05-01-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Steele20

Okay, I pick all of them. Tell me each reason you don't like him. Because most those reasons for disliking Bush are stupid IMO.

*wont be able to argue until I get back tomarrow morning!

They're stupid? If going to a war on false pretenses and then handling the situation once you are there very poorly is trivial to you, then what isn't trivial?

He made fucking bold-faced lies. The director of the CIA told him directly not to use certain statements in his state of the union address years ago before the war, and he did anyway. Then, when Joe Wilson wrote an article condemning Bush for this act. Bush, in response, decided he would commit a felony and reveal the true identity of Joe Wilson's wife, which potentially lead to the deaths of other agents and the crumbling of any networks which she setup during her occupation.

So, when a person lies and it leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of people, a strained military, a highly negative view by the world community, additional strain on the economy, and then commits a felony in response to someone calling him out on it, I don't like that person.

Big Smoothy · 05-01-2006, 10:05 AM

**Dale Mabry** · 05-01-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

They're stupid? If going to a war on false pretenses and then handling the situation once you are there very poorly is trivial to you, then what isn't trivial?

He made fucking bold-faced lies. The director of the CIA told him directly not to use certain statements in his state of the union address years ago before the war, and he did anyway. Then, when Joe Wilson wrote an article condemning Bush for this act. Bush, in response, decided he would commit a felony and reveal the true identity of Joe Wilson's wife, which potentially lead to the deaths of other agents and the crumbling of any networks which she setup during her occupation.

So, when a person lies and it leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of people, a strained military, a highly negative view by the world community, additional strain on the economy, and then commits a felony in response to someone calling him out on it, I don't like that person.

Why you always bringing up old shit, steele was talking about something from the last 3 or 4 hours, son.

bio-chem · 05-01-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker

Nonsense.

True blind hatred is difficult to find. Unless you look to the Clinton Bashers. The guy balanced the budget. Manufactured a surplus. Shrunk the size of government. Was tough on Welfare. Was so pro-business it was sickening.

Yet Conservatives hated this "liberal."

he hardly did these things single handedly. clinton said himself the strength of the economy had little to do with him. the guy had a weak foriegn policy. letting sadam walk all over UN resolutions. oh yeah, didnt he decide not to accept an offer of osama bin laden being turned over by sudan? and monica lewinski? shouldnt the most powerful man in the world at least have a good looking girl on the side? like kennedy and marlyn monroe

Big Smoothy · 05-01-2006, 10:12 AM

If the Ds win the House, which I think they will, there should be some investigations and hearings about the whole Iraq quagmire, and the intell.

bio-chem · 05-01-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

If the Ds win the House, which I think they will, there should be some investigations and hearings about the whole Iraq quagmire, and the intell.

it would be nice if the dems actually did something positive, like trying to come up with a solution for the economy, iraq, etc. saying over and over the other party is wrong may be true, but it helps little when you dont give a counter solution. any answer is viewed as better than no answer in this situation.

BigDyl · 05-01-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

it would be nice if the dems actually did something positive, like trying to come up with a solution for the economy, iraq, etc. saying over and over the other party is wrong may be true, but it helps little when you dont give a counter solution. any answer is viewed as better than no answer in this situation.

It would help if your party stopped destroying humanity with greed.

Decker · 05-01-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

he hardly did these things single handedly. clinton said himself the strength of the economy had little to do with him. the guy had a weak foriegn policy. letting sadam walk all over UN resolutions. oh yeah, didnt he decide not to accept an offer of osama bin laden being turned over by sudan? and monica lewinski? shouldnt the most powerful man in the world at least have a good looking girl on the side? like kennedy and marlyn monroe

Clinton's appointment of Rob Rubin paved the way for the economic miracles of the 1990s. Rubin is a business man's business man. Generally the economy follows an ebb and flow which is outside the president's power...but the power to appoint is huge--look at how Bush has fucked it up.

A weak foreign policy? Like in Kosovo? Clinton spearheaded an effort to bring down a true genocidal dictator. It was a success w/ ZERO american casualties. I wish I could say the same of the profoundly incompetent Bush regime.

Well as we all know Clinton is the UN? non-sensical.

For the millionth time, the OBL Sudan story was fiction--More Hannitized Bullshit. http://www.neilrogers.com/news/articles/2004072813.html

Kennedy and Monroe? Why not reach back to Jefferson and Hemings?

Big Smoothy · 05-01-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

it would be nice if the dems actually did something positive, like trying to come up with a solution for the economy, iraq, etc. saying over and over the other party is wrong may be true, but it helps little when you dont give a counter solution. any answer is viewed as better than no answer in this situation.

Agreed.

Both parties are extremely similar. More similar than different.

One saying is: 'the Democrats represent 50% of corporate power.'

Decker · 05-01-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

it would be nice if the dems actually did something positive, like trying to come up with a solution for the economy, iraq, etc. saying over and over the other party is wrong may be true, but it helps little when you dont give a counter solution. any answer is viewed as better than no answer in this situation.

The republican party has shown conclusively that it cannot govern this country with any competency or effectiveness.

You're not looking hard enough at the democrats.

Look to Russ Feingold if you want to find a democratic politician with a coherent positive agenda.

The republicans--the wrong answer and no solution

Russ Feingold--real, effective answers for today.*

*paid for by Feingold for president a non-profits org.

TJ Cline · 05-01-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Steele20

"actually his approval rating is 32%"

Most people who don't like Bush, don't like him for no reason at all. Probably about 75% of people here do not have a ligit reason for not liking him.

Iraq
Economy
Katrina
Medicare 'reform'
9/11
Environmental policy
Torture
Secrecy
Rendition
Spying

Yes none of these are good reasons

BigDyl · 05-01-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Iraq
Economy
Katrina
Medicare 'reform'
9/11
Environmental policy
Torture
Secrecy
Rendition
Spying

Yes none of these are good reasons

DOMS · 05-01-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

it would be nice if the dems actually did something positive, like trying to come up with a solution for the economy, iraq, etc. saying over and over the other party is wrong may be true, but it helps little when you dont give a counter solution. any answer is viewed as better than no answer in this situation.

This reminds me of one of the debates in the last election. Kerry said he would give all Americans the same health coverage that the senators have (I think the cost was around $700,000 per year). When asked how he was going to pay for this (a question posed by the panel), he simply dodged the question. The Dems have great aspirations, but always lack the details. Not that the Republicans are much better.

BigDyl · 05-01-2006, 02:59 PM

True Story, aspirations are almost as bad as a BJ.

DOMS · 05-01-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

True Story, aspirations are almost as bad as a BJ.

I bet you think that an "aspiration" is a sexual act involving the anus.

min0 lee · 05-01-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker

My posting was pure coincidence.

I am, in fact, Batman.

min0 lee · 05-01-2006, 06:06 PM

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Iraq
Economy
Katrina
Medicare 'reform'
9/11
Environmental policy
Torture
Secrecy
Rendition
Spying

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Originally Posted by Steele20

Okay, I pick all of them. Tell me each reason you don't like him. Because most those reasons for disliking Bush are stupid IMO.

*wont be able to argue until I get back tomarrow morning!

min0 lee · 05-01-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker

The republican party has shown conclusively that it cannot govern this country with any competency or effectiveness.

You're not looking hard enough at the democrats.

Look to Russ Feingold if you want to find a democratic politician with a coherent positive agenda.

The republicans--the wrong answer and no solution

Russ Feingold--real, effective answers for today.*

*paid for by Feingold for president a non-profits org.

I never knew you possesed such a sharp wit.

Action-Jackson · 05-01-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker

That was a very funny roast. I still prefer the roasting where Bush joked about looking under the oval office furniture for those darn missing WMDs. Hilarious.

You actually think that was funny? He was practically saying "Haha, all this war and death was for sweet fuck all."

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Big Smoothy Windy City Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,675	If the Ds win the House, which I think they will, there should be some investigations and hearings about the whole Iraq quagmire, and the intell.