Thread: Da Vinci Code objections

admittedly I haven't read the book or even know that much about it, but as a Christian I don't see what there is to get worked up about. It's fiction, and as far as I have been informed it has never clained to be anything but fiction. If you don't want to see it, don't see it. If you do, go see it. Decide for yourself. No movie, whether it claims to be real or not, is going to persuade anyone's faith one way or the other. If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything.

btw, where did you quote this from? I find it hard to believe that any Catholic activist would do anything "unto death," being that it is a sin

The Catholic Church is probably the oldest, largest, most corrupt, governing body in human history!

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

The Catholic Church is probably the oldest, largest, most corrupt, governing body in human history!

Out with the lame pepper quote and in with this classic and true quote.

Originally Posted by Crono1000

btw, where did you quote this from? I find it hard to believe that any Catholic activist would do anything "unto death," being that it is a sin

I found it on IMDB.com

Originally Posted by Crono1000

admittedly I haven't read the book or even know that much about it, but as a Christian I don't see what there is to get worked up about. It's fiction, and as far as I have been informed it has never clained to be anything but fiction. If you don't want to see it, don't see it. If you do, go see it. Decide for yourself. No movie, whether it claims to be real or not, is going to persuade anyone's faith one way or the other. If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything.

Good post.

c'mon people even if it is an act of fiction not many people like anytype of negativity for something they believe in. for the record it is a very interesting tale for those who love mysteries. as far as the believeability of it, everyone needs to enter having a mild willing suspention of disbelief in order to enjoy it

I think the Catholic church assumes that Christians are stupid otherwise why would they be so avid on stopping this movie being shown?

Originally Posted by mrmark

I think the Catholic church assumes that Christians are stupid otherwise why would they be so avid on stopping this movie being shown?

I know it does seem like that. If they truly believe and have a connection with God, they wouldn't worry about anything faltering it.

Originally Posted by fufu

"Controversial new movie adaptation The Da Vinci Code has prompted religious protests in the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay). Hundreds of Catholic stalwarts yesterday gathered outside a convent school in the city in a bid to stop the film's release next week , blasting it as an attack on their faith. Members of the Catholic Secular Forum (CSF) have taken offence to the movie's depiction of Catholic group Opus Dei as corrupt, out-dated and at the centre of a cover-up of the truth about Jesus Christ. Csf general secretary Joseph Dias says, "Activists will go on a fast unto death if the government fails to take action against anti-Christian movies. You can't make fiction on a religious figure. Tempers are already running quite high and there's no way of saying what could happen if the movie is released." In a statement, the group added: "The Da Vinci Code is offensive as it hit certain basic foundations of the religion." The protest is the second in a week by the CSF after Tuesday saw approximately one hundred demonstrators take to the streets outside a Mumbai church and burn copies of the Dan Brown novel. "
-IMDB.com

Hmmm I find this an interesting statement. Maybe they are trying to hide something? I have never read the book and I am not familiar with the story, but just a thought I had.

Why do Catholics get so upset? If they are the believers in the ultimate truth why do they get angry that it "hits certain basic foundations of the religion." Who cares! They have dozens of reasons why they are right. If they are enlightened with the divine knowledge, it wouldn't be a big deal...maybe they aren't hmmmm.

It is a fictional movie. What the fuck.

Hi fufu,

I find it interesting how a book of fiction and now a movie based on that novel gets religion so stirred up. If there is nothing to "hide" why be upset. The book poses questions - and questioning and the religious right does not like to be questioned - they LIVE on people just "accepting" what is "fed" the "faithful" and the "followers".

God gave each of us a brain and I would think He would want each of us to utilize that brain to the very best of our abilities and that would most definitely include questioning - questioning everything - including God and His existance as well. Because in order to find truth and it be accurate and honest and complete one must question every aspect of every thing. To do otherwise is a fallacy. Perhaps religions just like having people brainwashed into just accepting what is "spoon-fed". Religions do play on the ignorance and the stupidity of people - for a long time religions did not want people to be educated at all. They wanted the followers to ask the powers-that-be in religion for answers to whatever in order to have power over others and control their "thinking" and the "answers". There was a time when it was a grave wrong for everyday people to read the Bible themselves - it was prohibited that they do that - a person was supposed to have one of the religious higher-ups tell them what the Bible said. They were not allowed to read it for themselves.

I welcome anything that questions or poses questions and stirs debate and discussion and welcome open discussion about anything on any subject - objectively. That is truly the only way to really learn anything.

Take Care, John H.

Originally Posted by Crono1000

admittedly I haven't read the book or even know that much about it, but as a Christian I don't see what there is to get worked up about. It's fiction, and as far as I have been informed it has never clained to be anything but fiction. If you don't want to see it, don't see it. If you do, go see it. Decide for yourself. No movie, whether it claims to be real or not, is going to persuade anyone's faith one way or the other. If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything.

Hi Crono,

I guess the "problem" comes from the fact that the book is based on a lot of what is actually factual and true. Not everything but quite a bit. And that fact is what is stirring people up both pro and con. They are "wondering if" and finding the "possibility" fascinating and plausible. There was a lot of research done in order to write this book.

Many people say that once they started reading the book they just could NOT put it down - even staying up all night to read more - it is that well written and that captivating and suspenseful.

Take Care, John H.

Originally Posted by John H.

Hi fufu,

I find it interesting how a book of fiction and now a movie based on that novel gets religion so stirred up. If there is nothing to "hide" why be upset. The book poses questions - and questioning and the religious right does not like to be questioned - they LIVE on people just "accepting" what is "fed" the "faithful" and the "followers".

God gave each of us a brain and I would think He would want each of us to utilize that brain to the very best of our abilities and that would most definitely include questioning - questioning everything - including God and His existance as well. Because in order to find truth and it be accurate and honest and complete one must question every aspect of every thing. To do otherwise is a fallacy. Perhaps religions just like having people brainwashed into just accepting what is "spoon-fed". Religions do play on the ignorance and the stupidity of people - for a long time religions did not want people to be educated at all. They wanted the followers to ask the powers-that-be in religion for answers to whatever in order to have power over others and control their "thinking" and the "answers". There was a time when it was a grave wrong for everyday people to read the Bible themselves - it was prohibited that they do that - a person was supposed to have one of the religious higher-ups tell them what the Bible said. They were not allowed to read it for themselves.

I welcome anything that questions or poses questions and stirs debate and discussion and welcome open discussion about anything on any subject - objectively. That is truly the only way to really learn anything.

Take Care, John H.

Great post.

Luckily I was able to break from the church at a young age. In my younger childhood my mother forced me to go to church and shoved scripture down my throat. Everyone at church seemed fake and hypocritical so eventually I got sick of it and renounced it. I don't bother argueing with my mother about it anymore because she always has some vague answer for everything. You can't have belief and faith for someone, they need to find it on their own.

Originally Posted by fufu

Great post.

Luckily I was able to break from the church at a young age. In my younger childhood my mother forced me to go to church and shoved scripture down my throat. Everyone at church seemed fake and hypocritical so eventually I got sick of it and renounced it. I don't bother argueing with my mother about it anymore because she always has some vague answer for everything. You can't have belief and faith for someone, they need to find it on their own.

You are going to Hell and breaking your Mothers heart.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

You are going to Hell and breaking your Mothers heart.

lawl.

Everyday at work we get a list of activities regarding the "Entertainment Industry" This is from this morning:



Tom Hanks says that people objecting to his upcoming movie "The Da Vinci Code" are protesting too much...Hanks reportedly told the Evening Standard that "We always knew there would be a segment of society that would not want this movie to be shown...but the story we tell is loaded with all sorts of hooey and fun kind of scavenger-hunt-type nonsense...It's a damn good story and a lot of fun." (thisislondon.com)

Philippine Catholic bishops gave priests and parishioners guidelines on how to refute the plot of “The Da Vinci Code” including a point-by-point rebuttal of each of the novel’s claims. (Reuters)


Almost every day for the last month or so we get something about this group or that group protesting this movie. I haven't read the book, and I haven't seen the movie (although I will do both in the near future), but I find it extremely funny that soooo much effort goes into trying to discredit a fictional story.

All I can say is: it's a good thing they're not Muslims.

The Roman Catholic Church's beliefs more closely resemble the beliefs of the pagan Roman Empire than they did the true early Christians and the followers of Christ. The Romans couldn't beat the Christian uprising in the 3rd century so instead they joined it... and made it fit in with their corrupt Roman beliefs and culture until it barely contained any of the ideas and beliefs of the early (pre-Catholic church) Christians.

Originally Posted by DOMS

All I can say is: it's a good thing they're not Muslims.

and how!

Originally Posted by John H.

Hi Crono,

I guess the "problem" comes from the fact that the book is based on a lot of what is actually factual and true.
Take Care, John H.

john very little of this book is factual. up to and including many of the descriptions of places and events. the easiest things to get accurate

Originally Posted by bio-chem

john very little of this book is factual. up to and including many of the descriptions of places and events. the easiest things to get accurate

I agree with you that very little of the Bible is factual.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I agree with you that very little of the Bible is factual.

dude, enough already. i could care less about your belief or lack thereof in the bible. your always trying to start some stupid worthless shit and it just gets anoying. i mean hell, im one of the few Christians that right off the bat will agree with you and say the bible is not 100% correct. I believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. other than that grow up. the conversation is on the da vinci code. if you can add to this conversation productively do it. if not, take 15 and go wack off somewhere.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

dude, enough already. i could care less about your belief or lack thereof in the bible. your always trying to start some stupid worthless shit and it just gets anoying. i mean hell, im one of the few Christians that right off the bat will agree with you and say the bible is not 100% correct. I believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. other than that grow up. the conversation is on the da vinci code. if you can add to this conversation productively do it. if not, take 15 and go wack off somewhere.

Chill out...I was agreeing with you,

Originally Posted by bio-chem

john very little of this book is factual. up to and including many of the descriptions of places and events. the easiest things to get accurate

Actually the book itself says in direct quote ( or closely ).."The following events and beliefs of the Catholic church are real and documented". So technically, Yes it is factual and if it isn't then Yes, the Catholics DO have something to be angry about.

Originally Posted by DOMS

All I can say is: it's a good thing they're not Muslims.

Well they should protest, Jesus is one of their Prophets.

Originally Posted by maniclion

Well they should protest, Jesus is one of their Prophets.

They did, they said it was offensive. They're just not going to go around blowing shit up and threatening the lives of people.

Originally Posted by JordanMang

Actually the book itself says in direct quote ( or closely ).."The following events and beliefs of the Catholic church are real and documented". So technically, Yes it is factual and if it isn't then Yes, the Catholics DO have something to be angry about.

then you don't know what you're talking about. if you've done any kind of research on the story's validity, you'd know it's entirely fiction.

Yes, I read the book. It is what it is. People who are swayed by it didn't have strong faith to begin with.

On the same token, this movie would never have been made had it been about Mohammed. That part does piss me off.

Originally Posted by JordanMang

Actually the book itself says in direct quote ( or closely ).."The following events and beliefs of the Catholic church are real and documented". So technically, Yes it is factual and if it isn't then Yes, the Catholics DO have something to be angry about.

dude this whole post is an oxymoron. direct quote, or closely??? if your going to use quotations it better be right (which it is not) or if your going to paraphrase then dont use quotes. the following events were purely fiction thats what the book says and beliefs of the catholic church??? kid if you accept the davinci code as real events then you are one of the most foolish people i have ever heard of.

There's a book, Breaking the DaVinci Code written by a Christian author. Not as thrilling a read, but if anyone is truly curious what the beef is about, read it.

I think the angst surrounds the religion-ignorants. People firm in their beliefs will not be harmed by this film. The church's goal is to bring people to God. There will always be black sheep in all groups. The point of the Bible isn't to take each verse verbatim, but to KNOW the point or moral of the story. If that is overshadowed by controversy...therein lies the angst.