The Catholic Church is probably the oldest, largest, most corrupt, governing body in

**TJ Cline** · 05-12-2006, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

The Catholic Church is probably the oldest, largest, most corrupt, governing body in human history!

Discuss

**The Monkey Man** · 05-12-2006, 08:27 AM

I was just watching a historical piece on how in the 1700's scientists
and astronomers had to form a secret society in order to practice and communicate their theories and information freely through Europe...

Which at the time was governed by different familys and monarchs,
who in turn were ruled by the catholic church

**BigDyl** · 05-12-2006, 08:32 AM

Monkeyman may be an ignorant monkey, but sometimes he says something that makes sense.

**The Monkey Man** · 05-12-2006, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Monkeyman may be an ignorant monkey, but sometimes he says something that makes sense.

**MyK** · 05-12-2006, 04:17 PM

**TJ Cline** · 05-12-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by MyK

If he was wacking to a pic of a little boy then it would be funny.

**bio-chem** · 05-12-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

If he was wacking to a pic of a little boy then it would be funny.

i think it is a pick of the madona holding up her shirt. pretty bad by most christian standards. and honestly foreman how many times are you going to incite something against Christians? when is enough already?

**TJ Cline** · 05-12-2006, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

i think it is a pick of the madona holding up her shirt. pretty bad by most christian standards. and honestly foreman how many times are you going to incite something against Christians? when is enough already?

Well they tortured and killed innocents for centuries, and are still now invoilved in loathsome crimes....so I figure I can bash them another 40-50 years or so.

And just to let you know, this thread is about Catholics not Christians...and also the Pope is a Catholic.

**bio-chem** · 05-12-2006, 06:12 PM

i consider catholics a sect of Christianity. and pretty much will stick up for any group that wishes to worship God; How, Where, and What they like

**TJ Cline** · 05-12-2006, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

i consider catholics a sect of Christianity. and pretty much will stick up for any group that wishes to worship God; How, Where, and What they like

Yes but as you so brilliantly pointed out on another thread

, Christians are not all the same....so Catholics are the topic here and stop trying to change the topic.

**DOMS** · 05-12-2006, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Well they tortured and killed innocents for centuries, and are still now invoilved in loathsome crimes....so I figure I can bash them another 40-50 years or so.

And just to let you know, this thread is about Catholics not Christians...and also the Pope is a Catholic.

Hmmmm...

You're parents are rich and you hate the rich. You also seem to hate Catholics and...guess who?

**TJ Cline** · 05-12-2006, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

Hmmmm...

You're parents are rich and you hate the rich. You also seem to hate Catholics and...guess who?

Yes I hate the Catholic church...but I also hate most religons. As for the Rich, my parents are upper middle class in my book so they really don't fit into the group I say I hate..when I say rich I am talking about people worth 30 million pluss.....and/or a 500K a year income.

**DOMS** · 05-12-2006, 06:20 PM

Which religions don't you hate?

**TJ Cline** · 05-12-2006, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

Which religions don't you hate?

I can't think of any off hand but I'm sure there is one or two I don't mind.

**JordanMang** · 05-12-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I can't think of any off hand but I'm sure there is one or two I don't mind.

Organized religions are the downfall of modern man. God = Good. Whorship = Good. Infact, in my opinion .. Jesus = Good. Bunch of 70 year old perverts touching little children =

. But, organized religion has been the root of all major wars since Sodom and Gomora ( if they really exsisted ? )

**busyLivin** · 05-12-2006, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

And just to let you know, this thread is about Catholics not Christians...and also the Pope is a Catholic.

True story, you're usually accepting of Christians.

**The Monkey Man** · 05-12-2006, 10:42 PM

Every defensive post is about how someone THINKS christianity is good...
No defense related to the original thread topic statement about the catholic church...

**busyLivin** · 05-13-2006, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Every defensive post is about how someone THINKS christianity is good...
No defense related to the original thread topic statement about the catholic church...

the Catholic church has had plenty of problems over their history which makes them easy targets for the anti-religious. It's mostly earned, especially with cover-ups with the molestations. I'm Catholic & have plenty of complaints about them. However, I take what I can from the church & have my own relationship with God.

There's plenty of bad, but there is a lot of good, too.

**The Monkey Man** · 05-13-2006, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

the Catholic church has had plenty of problems over their history which makes them easy targets for the anti-religious. It's mostly earned, especially with cover-ups with the molestations. I'm Catholic & have plenty of complaints about them. However, I take what I can from the church & have my own relationship with God.

There's plenty of bad, but there is a lot of good, too.

So, in other words you turn the other cheek, instead of finding a
sect that has a better track record?

And if you're catholic, chances are you give money...
So you are finacially supporting "plenty of complaints"!? -

**busyLivin** · 05-13-2006, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

So, in other words you turn the other cheek, instead of finding a
sect that has a better track record?

And if you're catholic, chances are you give money...
So you are finacially supporting "plenty of complaints"!? -

I see what you mean, and I have looked elsewhere. I still think the Catholic tenants suit me best. I don't blindly follow everything they say, but I do adhere to the practices & core beliefs that it presents.

It's an institution run by men and they don't always practice what they preach. I can still try to.

**TJ Cline** · 05-13-2006, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

True story, you're usually accepting of Christians.

They are blind, hatefull children also....

**The Monkey Man** · 05-13-2006, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

I see what you mean, and I have looked elsewhere. I still think the Catholic tenants suit me best. I don't blindly follow everything they say, but I do adhere to the practices & core beliefs that it presents.

It's an institution run by men and they don't always practice what they preach. I can still try to.

So do so, but voice your opinion, and don't fund them...
Or start a prayer group, and skip all the pomp-and-circumstance...

Be a free thinker man, those hypocrites could drag you down...

**busyLivin** · 05-13-2006, 09:19 AM

I consider myself a free-thinker. The Church to me is a guide, not the answer.

**DOMS** · 05-13-2006, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

They are blind, hatefull children also....

And you seem to be full of love for everyone.

**TJ Cline** · 05-13-2006, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by DOMS

And you seem to be full of love for everyone.

No I hate 90% of people, but I do not claim to be a man of God like some of the hypocrites here

**DOMS** · 05-13-2006, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

I consider myself a free-thinker. The Church to me is a guide, not the answer.

Think of this way busyLivin: They accuse you (as a Catholic) of being hateful and close-minding, yet they don't like your being Catholic and wont believe that you could can be open-minded.

**DOMS** · 05-13-2006, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

No I hate 90% of people, but I do not claim to be a man of God like some of the hypocrites here

You are a hypocrite. I've covered this before. Now you're a hypocrite when it comes to hypocrisy.

Good for you.

**TJ Cline** · 05-13-2006, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by DOMS

You are a hypocrite. I've covered this before. Now you're a hypocrite when it comes to hypocrisy.

Good for you.

Give some clear examples of that....if you can

**DOMS** · 05-13-2006, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Give some clear examples of that....if you can

You don't like rich people because of your experiences with them.

I don't like blacks because of my experiences with them.

You've stated that my view on black is wrong.

**bio-chem** · 05-13-2006, 04:15 PM

well foreman for one you told me you hold me to a higher standard than you hold yourself. that seems pretty hypocritical to me.

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