Good read....The Israel's are scum.
Time to reign in Israel. That little Zionist 'state' is out of control. Time for action..And it won't be coming from the U.S. , which continually blocks UN resolutions against Israel (from a UN that is pretty useless anyway).
Europe (the EU) has been totally spineless in this affair, I'm disgusted with them. Arabs in other countries (such as the Saudis, have proved themselves no better)
Here is an article......Which is biased against Israel, but it still provides some useful reading....... it includes:
"Three hundred British Jews have signed a letter strongly condemning Israel's actions. But we are all made complicit by the failure of our governments to act to stop Israel's barbarous campaign against the Palestinians. British Arabs feel doubly compromised as the world registers, yet again, the spineless behaviour of the Arab governments."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...819073,00.html
This has been going on for aprox.60 years since the creation, of Israel.Is there not a better solution? Why Jews not can live in or near Jerusalem, without the creation of an apartheite state ? And without continued genocide against the Palestinians, Lebanon, and war gaming against Syria (so as to draw in Iran possibly)........?![]()
Good read....The Israel's are scum.
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Not all, but just enough to give their people a bad name.Originally Posted by Nick+
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Bye, bye, Palestinians.![]()
So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
about another group that actually does something
to improve their lives.
Yeah, odd that they would get upset about the kidnapping of their soldiers. They shouldn't get so pissed about such petty things.
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The Israelies didn't in the past , Pepper, they used to negociate a release,for any Isralies captured by the Palestinians......Not this time however, and one can only wonder why.... Watch the attacks on Lebanon , the fly overs Syria.........Originally Posted by Pepper
Is Israel trying to self destruct or what?![]()
You'll never get to religious factions to agree or be peaceful in such proximity of each other.
Originally Posted by Nick+
Why should one have to negotiate a release in the first place?![]()
Just a few pastings on how Israel was created by terrorist acts.......(One cannot substantiate the material/ webpages I've posted here..) I've seen different versions of this sort of information on the internet, and also heard about about it while visiting the West Bank in Dec 1983 and 85.I always remember being on an Arab bus going from Hebron to Jerusalem (in Dec 1983), an old Arab in his head dress leant over my shoulder and tapped my shoulder from behind, and said "Do you realize Balfour was to blame for all of this" .......
There are certain comments below that I do not agree with.
July 2, 1946: The King David Hotel in Jerusalem was bombed. Killing 91 people
Menachem Begin sic who planned the destruction of the King David Hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin (See picture at top of this page, flanked by pictures of the bombed King David Hotel). Ex prime minister, Shamir, was originally a member of the Jewish "terrorist" gang called Irgun, which was headed by none other than Menachem Begin. Shamir later moved over to the even more radical "Stern Gang," which committed many vicious atrocities.
Shamir himself has defended the various assassinations committed by the Irgun and Stern gangs on the grounds that "it was the only way we could operate, because we were so small. So it was more efficient and more moral to go for selected targets." The selected moral targets in those early days of the founding of the state of Israel included bombing of the King David Hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin.
April 9, 1948: A combined force of Irgun and Stern Gangs committed a brutal massacre of 260 Arab residents of the village of Deir Yassin. Most of whom were women and children. The Israeli hordes even attacked the dead to satisfy their bestial tendencies. In April, 1954, during Holy Week, and on the eve of Easter, The Christian cemeteries in Haifa were invaded, crosses broken down and trampled under the feet of these miscreants, and the tombs desecrated. The Israeli military conquest, therefore was made against a defenseless people, who had been softened up by such earlier massacres as Deir Yasin {250 Arabs; men, women and children were massacred there}.
The Jew, Weizman, referred to the massacre as this "miraculous simplification of our task" and Ben Gurion said "without Deir Yasin there would be no Israel." Americans are not told that 10% of the Arabs killed by the Israeli's in 1948 were Christian and that 10% of the Arab property confiscated belonged to Christians. Nor are they told the fact that Israel's massacres and military actions forced 100,000 Christians to become refugees.
Accounts by Red Cross and United Nations observers who visited the scene, said that the houses were first set on fire and the occupants were shot down as they came out to escape the flames. One pregnant woman had her baby cut out of her stomach with a knife. Reminiscent of the acts committed by their brother Jews in Russia during and after the Bolshevik {Jewish} take over. The head of the International Red Cross delegation in Palestine, Jacques de Reynier, drove into the village and was met by a detachment of Irgun terrorists. In his report of the massacre the previous night, he wrote: "All of them were young, some even adolescents, men and women armed to the teeth: revolvers, machine-guns, hand-grenades, and knives, most of them still blood-stained. A beautiful young girl with criminal eyes showed me hers {knife} still dripping with blood, she displayed it like a trophy."
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/kd.html
Originally Posted by Nick+
So they'll do what civilizations have done for centuries. They'll fight until there's a winner. Sucks. but that's reality. We as humans will never get beyond the conquer mentality.
You = the manOriginally Posted by Nick+
Good Day

Wait a minute, Nick+!
You want me to view the Palestinians as people, but the Jews are scum? The Palestinians killed some IDF and kidnap one and then the Jews retaliate and they're the scum?
Screw that. I hope the Jews kill them all.
So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
about another group that actually does something
to improve their lives.
The only thing that I wonder is when the first Jewish person from this board is going to jump in. That'll make this thread more enteraining.....![]()
Ok, enough levity, what I am really waiting for is to see how long it takes the US (Where the most powerful and influential jewish people live) to condemn everyone but Israel for attacks. Truth is, they are far from me and truth is that this isn't my problem.
Sorry it sounds bad, but I don't want the US to get involved in another war or another conflict. Regarding my earlier comment about the jewish people, their community is truly very powerful and again, influential. My fear is that they will express their outrage,which they have a right to do, and then flex their muscles and get the US to jump into it.
Again, tha's the one fear that I have. Do ya'll remember the main reason why Bin Laden said he hated the US? One of his "pet peeves" was the americans zealous defense of Israel and it's rights. The US gets involved in this and there will be more terrorism here. I hope ya'll don't think that we are now safe from terrorism because of our great homeland security program. I travel, it's scary.....
Hell, I am moving to Cabo San Lucas.......![]()
-Tony-
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I am not taking a position on whether we should help Israel or not but the decision should not be based on what the terrorist think. That is fear and that is very French.Originally Posted by fantasma62
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Anti-semiteOriginally Posted by DOMS
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More like lazy typist.Originally Posted by ForemanRules
So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
about another group that actually does something
to improve their lives.
oh wow, the palestinians killed one or two Israeli soldeirs, now all of them deserve to die right? It doesn't matter that the jews have been killing innocent civilians, women, and children for the past 60 years and thats all for the war on terrorism. The Palestinians are just supposed to sit around and watch the jews completely kill them off, they can't retaliate by killing some soldiers...
Good mentality DOMS... why don't you go join the israeli forces or something..?
What Americans should know about Israel/Palestine.....
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
israel doesnt have terrorosts
think...Who are the bad guys ?
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