Thread: Forced child support should be illegal

if you use condoms lubricated with nonoxynol 9 you are still pretty safe even if it slides off or breaks. there's enough spermacide to protect you. all the morning after pill is is like taking 2 - 4 bc pills at once.

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Originally Posted by Little Wing

if you use condoms lubricated with nonoxynol 9 you are still pretty safe even if it slides off or breaks. there's enough spermacide to protect you. all the morning after pill is is like taking 2 - 4 bc pills at once.

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morning after poll can do a number on the girls health...temporarily that is
I heard its very harsh on the stomach.

non-9 attacks the health of the sperm...killing most of them, but sometimes it merely weakens them, and if the sperm (which is defected now) reaches to fertalize the egg, the chance of the baby developing normally is reduced.

weird..... i was just thinking... i wonder if a guy could prove he took every reasonable precaution to prevent pregnancy like used a condom with spermacide for instance, and if a girl has no qualms with that she should have none with using the morning after pill if the condom breaks especially since the non 9 increases chances of a deformed child.... could all this be an arguement against being a father in court if the girl does become pregnant? deciding to keep the child would be the woman changing her mind after they as a couple decided the sex was not to result in conception.... her choice her resposibility unless the male decides to change his also.

discuss... what would a pre sex contract look like? n why would one stand or not stand up in court?

Originally Posted by Little Wing

weird..... i was just thinking... i wonder if a guy could prove he took every reasonable precaution to prevent pregnancy like used a condom with spermacide for instance, and if a girl has no qualms with that she should have none with using the morning after pill if the condom breaks especially since the non 9 increases chances of a deformed child.... could all this be an arguement against being a father in court if the girl does become pregnant? deciding to keep the child would be the woman changing her mind after they as a couple decided the sex was not to result in conception.... her choice her resposibility unless the male decides to change his also.

discuss... what would a pre sex contract look like? n why would one stand or not stand up in court?

The only right men have when it comes to children is to not insert.

that's not fair. these laws need to change.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

that's not fair. these laws need to change.

I agree?

i say there should be a pre sex contract.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i say there should be a pre sex contract.

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it seems to me that the government and society are more concerned with the well being of children than they are with the financial problems of a bunch of dead beat loosers.

i think it is a legitimate idea. if you are being careful and responsible with a gun and someone accidentally gets killed it is taken into consideration that you were acting in accordance with the law and you are not charged with a crime. car accident same thing. i have a son and i think there is a world of difference between him taking a risk in getting a girl pregnant and him acting in a manner to protect them both. if the latter is the case he should then have just as much right as the woman to decide the outcome.

Originally Posted by clemson357

it seems to me that the government and society are more concerned with the well being of children than they are with the financial problems of a bunch of dead beat loosers.

some of the losers are deadbeat women that see getting pregnant by a guy with a good job and or future as money in the bank.

i've seen guys bitch about paying child support while they spend an amount in one night at a bar that their monthly child support doesn't even amount to. kids are better off being parented by people who treasure the child and the position of being their parent. not resent them for needing food, shelter and clothing.

The biggest bullshit with child support is that no matter how much or how little the guy makes, a fraction of his money is taken from him each month and no doubt the mom is spending a lot of that on herself. That's bullshit.

If they really wanna make it fair they should do some kinda auditing on the bitch.

Any of you guys heard that story where it turned out the guy DID NOT father the child but the judge made him pay child support anyways? Thats grounds for suicide if you ask me.

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

Any of you guys heard that story where it turned out the guy DID NOT father the child but the judge made him pay child support anyways? Thats grounds for suicide if you ask me.

This is the standard and not unusual. Men have no rights and can be forced to pay for another mans child as well as pay his ex for cheating on him and/or getting pregnant with another mans child..

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

The biggest bullshit with child support is that no matter how much or how little the guy makes, a fraction of his money is taken from him each month and no doubt the mom is spending a lot of that on herself. That's bullshit.

If they really wanna make it fair they should do some kinda auditing on the bitch.

Good point, it seems the "court" has no interest in the childs rights. I think all the money should be accounted for and that a limit to the amount of child support shouild be set.

Yeah, I'm not sure which is worse though, divorce or gettinga bitch pregnant. Getting someone pregnant you have to pay for 18 years. Divorce you lose half (or more) or your belongings.

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

The biggest bullshit with child support is that no matter how much or how little the guy makes, a fraction of his money is taken from him each month and no doubt the mom is spending a lot of that on herself. That's bullshit.

If they really wanna make it fair they should do some kinda auditing on the bitch.

This isn't always the case though. Recently my mom's house payment went up, as well as insurance on the house, and then her car insurance went up. We were struggling as it was, but now it's worse. Besides that she's buying me a truck ( going in with my grandma, grandpa, and aunt ) so that I can work and hopefully help a little bit. If my Dad hadn't sent child support this month ( 300$ ) we wouldn't be able to make the house payment. Sometimes it's needed.

Originally Posted by JordanMang

This isn't always the case though. Recently my mom's house payment went up, as well as insurance on the house, and then her car insurance went up. We were struggling as it was, but now it's worse. Besides that she's buying me a truck ( going in with my grandma, grandpa, and aunt ) so that I can work and hopefully help a little bit. If my Dad hadn't sent child support this month ( 300$ ) we wouldn't be able to make the house payment. Sometimes it's needed.

$300 is a very low amount to pay....your Dad should be glad that's all he pays.

911 is talking about fathers who make great livings 100K plus. I think the child should get a fair share of cash, but I see no reason to make a man who is paying $800 a month for one child to then be forced to pay $1800 just because he was smart and/or hard working enough to double his income.

Wow your dad really got off the hook for 300 dollars! Not to make a joke but that's good for him.

And I was talking about guys who had a to a ridiculous amount of money like Foreman pointed out. Because common, how much does it really cost to feed a baby? Anything over a thousand dollars is straight up robbery.

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

Wow your dad really got off the hook for 300 dollars! Not to make a joke but that's good for him.

And I was talking about guys who had a to a ridiculous amount of money like Foreman pointed out. Because common, how much does it really cost to feed a baby? Anything over a thousand dollars is straight up robbery.

He's a bum.

Originally Posted by JordanMang

He's a bum.

Sorry to hear.

i've only gotten 2 $39 checks this year from my mom for child support . the stupid bitch owes(sp?) thousands of dollars and i dunno where the hell she lives, last i knew the fucking retard was somewhere on house arrest. When she does send alot of money ($150-200) my ghey dad takes it and spends it on his stupid girlfriend the should both rott in hell!

Originally Posted by kenwood

i've only gotten 2 $39 checks this year from my mom for child support . the stupid bitch owes(sp?) thousands of dollars and i dunno where the hell she lives, last i knew the fucking retard was somewhere on house arrest. When she does send alot of money ($150-200) my ghey dad takes it and spends it on his stupid girlfriend the should both rott in hell!

If all woman would just swallow, we wouldn't have this problem!

Reading this thread makes me scared. I can't believe the majority of you people will get married and have children.

Here is a crazy fucking idea. Don't fuck someone you don't trust, and don't marry someone you don't trust. Better yet, if you are so worried about child support, and you insist on fucking some dumb slut, find one that likes it in the ass.