Thread: Listen to this guy regarding the war.

Unless we're killing them wholesale, it's not enough.

Who cares? At least we are setting a good example by not doing the same things to them that they do to us...........wait.......

Fuck that. We're setting ourselves up for some nasty shit in the future. I'm sorry I have morals, I didn't realize being a goddamn redneck fuck who doesn't give two shits about anyone else was in. If you can sit there and tell me that you don't feel bad for innocent women and children being murdered by fuckhead troops for no reason is fine with you, you've got a problem.


I'm all for killing terrorists and bad people, but killing innocent people execution style is messed up. I realize bombs can't be perfect and yes, you will kill innocent people but that is completely different then killing a 4 year old girl by putting a gun to her head and pulling the trigger.

This shit pisses me off because I have a couple of friends that were in Iraq and they told me all of the shit they were ordered to do. I know that I could not be ordered to kill a little kid. Under no circumstances.

True Story, this is the DOMS mentality of thinking, and freedom isn't free.

Theres nothing more pleasing than drinking whiskey and No Fear energy drinks, knocking around some golf balls and then raping 14 year old future terroristettes and then killing the whole family including the 5 yr old future little terroristette.

Originally Posted by maniclion

Theres nothing more pleasing than drinking whiskey and No Fear energy drinks, knocking around some golf balls and then raping 14 year old future terroristettes and then killing the whole family including the 5 yr old future little terroristette.

You're a traitorous commie, and should be exterminated immediately.

Anywho, that guys a complete fake.

Originally Posted by maniclion

Anywho, that guys a complete fake.

True Story. But if he wasn't a fake, I would still say he's a traitor.

I hope i'm just not getting the sarcasm in this thread. Oh lord how I hope...

Originally Posted by fletcher6490

I hope i'm just not getting the sarcasm in this thread. Oh lord how I hope...

No sarcasm from me, the guy is a boot camp dropout, never even made the cut and he's trying to pass off that he's an Army Ranger? Come on give those guys some respect and I don't need some pansy waist way too liberal lying son of a bitch fighting my battles against why this war was wrong, Bush does a good enough job for me.

Direct from the IVAW site.

Questions have been raised about Jesse MacBeth and his claims of service in Iraq. MacBeth came to Iraq Veterans Against the War in January 2006 asking for help, and the organization and its members extended itself to help him in various ways. Assisting veterans is one of the founding principles of IVAW and it is a mission that we take seriously. After looking into his recent claims, we have learned that Jesse is not what he represented himself to be. Accordingly, IVAW does not in any way endorse Jesse MacBeth or any of his accounts involving military service. He -- and he alone -- is responsible for them. IVAW was not aware of the creation of the video program featuring MacBeth, and did not authorize use of our logo in the program.



The timing of the widespread circulation of the MacBeth video interestingly coincides with the ongoing military investigation of the recent Marine massacre of two dozen civilians (including women and children) in Haditha, – what is being termed as an atrocity by one member of Congress (R). MacBeth’s false statements unfortunately have played into the hands of those who would deny that any atrocities whatsoever are occurring in Iraq. While such murders by military personnel are reprehensible, ultimate blame for these actions must be placed on the responsible commanding officers, Donald Rumsfeld, and the Bush administration who have created the context for chaos in through an illegal and unjust war and occupation which they admit has no end in sight.

IVAW is a young and growing organization of courageous veterans and active duty soldiers in the “War on Terror” whose mission is to end the war in Iraq through immediate withdrawal of troops. We believe that veterans should be given the benefits they deserve upon returning home, and that the United States owes reparations to the Iraqi people for the destruction of their country. The invasion and occupation of Iraq was ill conceived and dishonestly sold to the American people, and IVAW members have the special vantage point of first-hand experience of the war to know why it’s wrong and why we need to bring the troops home now.

Rumsfeld, that's such a cool last name.

Originally Posted by maniclion

No sarcasm from me, the guy is a boot camp dropout, never even made the cut and he's trying to pass off that he's an Army Ranger? Come on give those guys some respect and I don't need some pansy waist way too liberal lying son of a bitch fighting my battles against why this war was wrong, Bush does a good enough job for me.

I have 2 friends that were over there and told me the exact same shit happens. So if this guy is lying, ok i'll disregard what he's saying. My friends on the otherhand I do believe. They have no reason to lye to me about this stuff. Actually, it has really messed my one friend up.

How do you "lye" to someone? Sounds sick.

Originally Posted by goandykid

How do you "lye" to someone? Sounds sick.

Sorry, I meant lyi. My spelling has been off lately.

Originally Posted by maniclion

Theres nothing more pleasing than drinking whiskey and No Fear energy drinks, knocking around some golf balls..

Now THIS had my undivided attention.

Originally Posted by fletcher6490

This guy was an army ranger and he's talking about all the fucked up stuff they are made to do over there.

Oh.... and this guy is a complete fraud and a total pussy. Nothing more than a human stain being paraded around as an "anti-Bush" trophy by a bunch of left-wing liberal media shitheads.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Macbeth

Now..... you claim you have two friends over there right now who claim this shit is happeneing? If so then they are taking part in it and shuold be brought befor a firing squad. Personally, I'm convinced your friends are full of shit. They are engaging in "Tough talk" to appear to be hard ass in a combat situation. It happens alot. It's sad that some guys feel they need to "tough talk" in order to try and impress people back home.

Hell I served with a guy who NEVER left a desk while we were in country. He was a radio operator who covered the midnight shift the ENTIRE time we were in country. He spent the majority of his time watching movies on a laptop and calling his wife back home. Once we got back this asshole starts making up stories and fabricating shit that never happened!! He even claimed that we conducted a full bayonett charge on a village of women and children!! Fucking asshole.

He's discharged now and drawing a hefty dissability check for a bullshit PTSD calim he was able to get pushed through the VA. His wife divorved him because she couldn't stand his incessant lying and story-telling. He is a total tool.

My point to all this is... the asshole in this video and the guy I served with are not the only ones out there fabricating stories to draw attention to themselves and/or push some politicly charged agenda. Don't fall for their bullshit.

Originally Posted by Witmaster

Oh.... and this guy is a complete fraud and a total pussy. Nothing more than a human stain being paraded around as an "anti-Bush" trophy by a bunch of left-wing liberal media shitheads.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Macbeth

I vote to turn this asshat over the real Rangers.

I don't know, the guy sound pretty convincing. Just because someone entered that in Wiki, doesn't mean it's true.


Who knows..

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Who knows..

Me. The guy is full of shit

Originally Posted by Witmaster

Me. The guy is full of shit

You hope he is.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

You hope he is.

No, you hope he's not, but it just ain't so. Just do a little research and you'll find that even the liberals doubt him.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

You hope he is.

Well... looking at the guy's DD-214 it's pretty easy to dispell his claims of serving in the Ranger Battalion and getting dischrged for combat injuries.

The guy was discharged from the 47th Traiing Regiment out of Benning. In short.... he never made it beyond basic and AIT. This guy never deployed anywhere further than the chow-hall.

Originally Posted by Witmaster

Well... looking at the guy's DD-214 it's pretty easy to dispell his claims of serving in the Ranger Battalion and getting dischrged for combat injuries.

The guy was discharged from the 47th Traiing Regiment out of Benning. In short.... he never made it beyond basic and AIT. This guy never deployed anywhere further than the chow-hall.

This may well be true, but let us not forget the liberal media montra: Just because it never happed, doesn't mean that it's not a fact.

Originally Posted by DOMS

This may well be true, but let us not forget the liberal media montra: Just because it never happed, doesn't mean that it's not a fact.

It is sad that people are so willing to hang their convictions on the words of an exposed fraud. I mean, I can understand someone's objections to the War in Iraq, but to actually try and defend and/or justify the statements of an exposed liar only serves to discredit their position and credibility as a whole.

It's incredulous.... "Yea, i know the guy has been proven by multiple media sources to be a comlete fraud but.... what if he's not?!?"

Originally Posted by Witmaster

It is sad that people are so willing to hang their convictions on the words of an exposed fraud. I mean, I can understand someone's objections to the War in Iraq, but to actually try and defend and/or justify the statements of an exposed liar only serves to discredit their position and credibility as a whole.

It's incredulous.... "Yea, i know the guy has been proven by multiple media sources to be a comlete fraud but.... what if he's not?!?"

Look at the Dan Rather debacle. Even after it was clearly proven that the supposed military documents were created using MS Word, he, and many liberals, wouldn't let it go.

I don't know how he sounds so convincing then...

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I don't know how he sounds so convincing then...

Because it's what you want to hear.