Thread: Would you rather have Liberty or Security?

Thats a pretty good question. Without Security is Liberty worth anything? I mean its not worth much if you are dead.....also discuss......

Originally Posted by Double D

Thats a pretty good question. Without Security is Liberty worth anything? I mean its not worth much if you are dead.....also discuss......

I'm the one who started the discussion. You can't initiate a new discussion by saying "discuss," and thus nullifying my "discuss."

I would like to discuss your discuss.......

At this point in time, security; however, security with our basic constitutional rights. And what the hell are you the ACLU? If you aren't doing anything wrong, you dont have anything to worry about. except: terrorists... fuckin pussies.

MAYBE

I am one of the few that still belive give me liberty or give me death. Authority will never own me. I will do what I want.

Originally Posted by CRASHMAN

At this point in time, security; however, security with our basic constitutional rights. And what the hell are you the ACLU? If you aren't doing anything wrong, you dont have anything to worry about. except: terrorists... fuckin pussies.

Without a doubt this is the most pathetic and idiotic post I have ever read here.




“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.”
– Benjamin Franklin

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Without a doubt this is the most pathetic and idiotic post I have ever read here.




“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.”
– Benjamin Franklin

good philosophy, try saying that when you are onboard a hijacked plane full of terrorists having that liberty and still dieing.

You son are the biggest idiot on this site. People like you make me ashamed to be a human.


For you to even argue with Benjamin Franklin is beyond pathetic

and the quote about freedom from B.F. is irrelavent to the situation and was used in the context of colonial usa -not today- in the times of terrorism and mass casualities.

Again you are a total idiot

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

You son are the biggest idiot on this site. People like you make me ashamed to be a human.

Fuck you douche, I've written countless papers on the NSA, Patriot Act, and Patriot Act II. And when it all come down to it, we need to suspend it until we terrorism under control. this is represented many times in history; one such example is the alien and sedition acts passed under madison which were later repealed.

Originally Posted by CRASHMAN

Fuck you douche, I've written countless papers on the NSA, Patriot Act, and Patriot Act II. And when it all come down to it, we need to suspend it until we terrorism under control. this is represented many times in history; one such example is the alien and sedition acts passed under madison which were later repealed.

You have written total bootlicking excrement you Mccarthy loving retard. Now go turn in your parents and best friends to the FBI so we can all be safe.

Idiot.

Having security would be more inline with an authoratarian society. Anyone who breaks the law would be killed, but, you have nothing to worry about since you don't break the law.

Jesus Mary and Joseph you all are getting out of hand.

Originally Posted by god hand

Jesus Mary and Joseph you all are getting out of hand.

That's enough out of you hand.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

You have written total bootlicking excrement you Mccarthy loving retard. Now go turn in your parents and best friends to the FBI so we can all be safe.

Idiot.

fuck you hippie. If you wouldnt take and extremist view on the situation and take relavent facts from the point and time i.e.: modern US, and their sactions on certain liberties while taking in the whole spectrum of variables, you could (im not going to say would because that'd be a stretch for you to see the other side) see - at this point in time - liberity is causing innocent people to lose their lifes. Liberty in no stretch is a bad thing. However, when cock suckers like al qaeda take our liberties and use them to manipulate our lifes and plan their attacks, we must cut them off at the past before another 9/11 can happen. And once we take out the threat, we can resume life as normal.

Originally Posted by CRASHMAN

fuck you hippie. If you wouldnt take and extremist view on the situation and take relavent facts from the point and time i.e.: modern US, and their sactions on certain liberties while taking in the whole spectrum of variables, you could (im not going to say would because that'd be a stretch for you to see the other side) see - at this point in time - liberity is causing innocent people to lose their lifes. Liberty in no stretch is a bad thing. However, when cock suckers like al qaeda take our liberties and use them to manipulate our lifes and plan their attacks, we must cut them off at the past before another 9/11 can happen. And once we take out the threat, we can resume life as normal.

The funny thing is I am an American and you are a traitor, the sad thing is you have no idea how true that is.

Idiot

I knew this topic was going to cause a pretty good stir.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

The funny thing is I am an American and you are a traitor, the sad thing is you have no idea how true that is.

Idiot

Good counter argument, maybe next you can take you ball and go home. Go hit the peace pipe some more you fuckin hippie. There is a reason that congress, the president, and all the branches of security agree on the sanctions and that reason is, because you are gay.

Originally Posted by CRASHMAN

Good counter argument, maybe next you can take you ball and go home. Go hit the peace pipe some more you fuckin hippie. There is a reason that congress, the president, and all the branches of security agree on the sanctions and that reason is, because you are gay.

Actually that comeback was no better.......

Originally Posted by Double D

Actually that comeback was no better.......

It was supposed to be ironic; rationally, you could see where the argument was. I did not have to say it. It was implied. Moreover, I wanted to call him gay loll.

True Story, while you can argue over the current situation, it really comes down to a simple question; Freedom or Oppression?

Originally Posted by CRASHMAN

Good counter argument, maybe next you can take you ball and go home. Go hit the peace pipe some more you fuckin hippie. There is a reason that congress, the president, and all the branches of security agree on the sanctions and that reason is, because you are gay.

Don't need to argue with a McCarthyism loving idiot, once you grow up and become more than a 40K Republican I might listen to your idiotic opinions. Now please go put me on a Blacklist you natzie.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

True Story, while you can argue over the current situation, it really comes down to a simple question; Freedom or Oppression?

im not going to wash my junk for 2 weeks and triangle you.