Fishing

**boilermaker** · 09-12-2006, 05:36 PM

Subject: Coho Salmon experiments in Lake Superior

The "Coho", not being a native of Lake Superior waters, has
experienced difficulty in surviving. The female, when swimming up
feeder streams, has been losing her roe on the rocky bottoms, and when
she got far enough upstream in the small pools and inlets, had great
difficulty getting back into the mainstream over the sand bars, etc.
In fact, as high as 90% were dying in the upper reaches of the Lake
Superior tributaries, which causes a pollution and odor problem.

The Michigan Department of Fisheries decided to crossbreed the "Coho"
with the native "Walleye" for two reasons:

(1) The "Walleye" had the strength and the knowledge to get through the
Lake Superior tributaries.
(2) was not prone to lose her roe while going upstream.

This new species was named the "Cowal." However, in crossbreeding, the fight that the "Coho" was noted for was lost to the more sluggish tendencies of the "Walleye."

To combat this sluggishness, the experiment went further, breeding the
"Cowal" with the greatest fresh water fighter in North America, the
"Muskie." This created a hybrid, double crossbreed, and introduced a
top North American game fish. They named this hybrid the "Co-Wal-Ski" and have the highest hopes for its success once someone can teach the dumb son-of-a-bitch to swim.

**maniclion** · 09-12-2006, 06:07 PM

Polish my knob.

**boilermaker** · 09-12-2006, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

Polish my knob.

I'm out of Q-Tips.

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 07:55 PM

racist

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 08:01 PM

Any real fisherwoman will know it's a joke when you mention "getting back." All coho and chinook salmon die after spawning as part of their life cycles.

**viet_jon** · 09-12-2006, 08:06 PM

that's pretty retarded. I don't think they should do stuff like that. fuck up the eco-ssytem.

**boilermaker** · 09-12-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Any real fisherwoman will know it's a joke when you mention "getting back." All coho and chinook salmon die after spawning as part of their life cycles.

Hey, you are right. I noticed that too when I read it. Good observation.

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 08:19 PM

in my opinion one of the worst results of pollution is contaminates in fish. i like salmon enough to eat it every day but nooooo. chicken sucks.

**boilermaker** · 09-12-2006, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

racist

No. Not meant to insult anyone, just thought it was funny.

**boilermaker** · 09-12-2006, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

in my opinion one of the worst results of pollution is contaminates in fish. i like salmon enough to eat it every day but nooooo. chicken sucks.

No kidding. They have all kinds of advisories out now for commercial salmon and the salmon we catch in the great lakes.

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 08:23 PM

even up on the mountain here in ponds that have never been stocked the fish are not safe to consume very often. n the trout up there is so good.

**maniclion** · 09-12-2006, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by boilermaker

No. Not meant to insult anyone, just thought it was funny.

I have a Polish Sausage for you!

**boilermaker** · 09-12-2006, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

even up on the mountain here in ponds that have never been stocked the fish are not safe to consume very often. n the trout up there is so good.

I noticed that out in Colorado. There were a lot of trout streams where there were signs that said not to eat any of the fish. The fishing was great, though.

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 08:30 PM

you can eat a couple a week here. the meat is pink, not at all like stocked trout.

**boilermaker** · 09-12-2006, 08:34 PM

I'm not sure what the great lakes advisory is. I don't worry about the salmon too much because they don't live long enough to accumulate much, in my opinion. A 15# Lake Trout that is 12 years old is another story. Those suckers are practically glowing.

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 08:40 PM

Frankenstein fish will glow in the bowl
By Thair Shaikh
(Filed: 05/05/2002)

A TAIWANESE company has created a genetically modified zebra fish that will glow in the dark, raising fears among environmentalists and the aquarium industry that the fish will start a trend for bio-engineered "Frankenstein pets". The modified fish are expected to be imported into Britain later in the year.

They are the first ornamental fish to be genetically modified. A jellyfish gene has been added to make them glow yellow-green. The GM Medaka or zebra fish - an east Asian freshwater variety - has been developed by Taiwan's Taikong Corporation. It is called the TK-1.

Taikong reported strong interest in Britain, where the aquatic industry is worth £300 million a year. It insisted that the TK-1 was safe, sterile and the fluorescent gene was not harmful. Taikong said it would satisfy European Union rules that genetically modified imports must not threaten health or the environment.

Aquatic industry specialists are worried, however, that the TK-1 is the first of many GM pet fish destined for Britain. Tropical fish are being bio-engineered to tolerate cold and could colonise British waters if they escaped.

"Piranhas that could survive in our waterways would be a major problem," said Derek Lambert, the editor of Today's Fishkeeper magazine, who is urging traders to boycott the TK-1. "We are worried about Frankenstein fish."

Keith Davenport, the Ornamental Trade Association chief executive, said: "Interfering with the genome is unnecessary. We don't want animals to become fashion accessories."

**maniclion** · 09-12-2006, 08:42 PM

Did you know it takes between 1,200 and 2,000 years for the water to travel from the North Atlantic Ocean through the freezing Arctic currents, under the vast glaciers of Greenland, where it gathers ancient minerals that leach down from the ice. Then it flows around and back down toward the deep channels of the Pacific Ocean. It is there, at the Water Rejuvenation Zone just off the coast of Kona, Hawaii, that the water is at its very purest. Before man screwed shit up.....

**boilermaker** · 09-12-2006, 08:43 PM

Finally a baitfish that matches some of the trolling spoons I have

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

Did you know it takes between 1,200 and 2,000 years for the water to travel from the North Atlantic Ocean through the freezing Arctic currents, under the vast glaciers of Greenland, where it gathers ancient minerals that leach down from the ice. Then it flows around and back down toward the deep channels of the Pacific Ocean. It is there, at the Water Rejuvenation Zone just off the coast of Kona, Hawaii, that the water is at its very purest. Before man screwed shit up.....

keep rubbing it in.

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 08:51 PM

as soon as i get rich i'm moving to Hawaii. i do know there was a time when it even had no snakes.

**maniclion** · 09-12-2006, 09:14 PM

Still no snakes.

**Little Wing** · 09-12-2006, 11:03 PM

i heard that you now had brown tree snakes. that they had come there on plane landing gear or something... http://www.explorebiodiversity.com/H...%20threats.htm ok nevermind. good article tho.

**SuperFlex** · 09-13-2006, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by boilermaker

I noticed that out in Colorado. There were a lot of trout streams where there were signs that said not to eat any of the fish. The fishing was great, though.

I wouldn't have thought that about Colorado. That is one of my dream vacations too... Fishing in the mountains. I sure there are still plenty of great areas.

**boilermaker** · 09-13-2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

I wouldn't have thought that about Colorado. That is one of my dream vacations too... Fishing in the mountains. I sure there are still plenty of great areas.

The fishing is awesome. Even on the "don't eat the fish" streams. My understanding is that this is because the waters contain heavy metals due to previous mining activities??? Maybe someone from their can shed some more light on this. There are tons of "keeper" streams and rivers too. But, lets face it, if you go to Colorado on a fishing trip, you aren't meat fishing. You are in cattle country. Get a Steak, boy!

Do you fish, Superflex? Maybe someone should start a fishing pictures thread

**maniclion** · 09-13-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by boilermaker

The fishing is awesome. Even on the "don't eat the fish" streams. My understanding is that this is because the waters contain heavy metals due to previous mining activities??? Maybe someone from their can shed some more light on this. There are tons of "keeper" streams and rivers too. But, lets face it, if you go to Colorado on a fishing trip, you aren't meat fishing. You are in cattle country. Get a Steak, boy!

Do you fish, Superflex? Maybe someone should start a fishing pictures thread

Also probably people with their vacation cabins running their septic lines down toward the streams causing contamination....

**boilermaker** · 09-13-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

Also probably people with their vacation cabins running their septic lines down toward the streams causing contamination....

Too sparsely populated and too much water volume to make entire rivers that highly contaminated. Damn, where is Burner when we need him? He's a resident.

**maniclion** · 09-13-2006, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by boilermaker

Too sparsely populated and too much water volume to make entire rivers that highly contaminated. Damn, where is Burner when we need him? He's a resident.

On top of everything else, factories, cattle ranches, surface mining, illegal dumping, etc.

**boilermaker** · 09-13-2006, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

On top of everything else, factories, cattle ranches, surface mining, illegal dumping, etc.

You are right, and I think surface mining is the big cause in the elevations I was at 6000-8000 ft. Certainly, all the things you mentioned contribute to the destructions of our waterways in North America.

Have you read about the Chinese Carp moving up the Mississipi towards the great lakes? Crikey (for BigDyl)

! They are talking about them injuring people and eventually becoming a hazzard to cars on the low bridge crossings along the great lakes!!! Not to mention, the possibility of destroying the local fish populations in the Great Lakes.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_arti...?storyid=60626

**Little Wing** · 09-13-2006, 04:34 PM

i bought 6 pounds of salmon today.

**maniclion** · 09-13-2006, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by boilermaker

You are right, and I think surface mining is the big cause in the elevations I was at 6000-8000 ft. Certainly, all the things you mentioned contribute to the destructions of our waterways in North America.

Have you read about the Chinese Carp moving up the Mississipi towards the great lakes? Crikey (for BigDyl)

! They are talking about them injuring people and eventually becoming a hazzard to cars on the low bridge crossings along the great lakes!!! Not to mention, the possibility of destroying the local fish populations in the Great Lakes.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_arti...?storyid=60626

I wonder what kind of invasive species seeped into the waters after New Orleans flooded???????

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