Thread: John Kerry's recent comments on our military

He tried to say it was a joke.

What a load of shit. I hope he chokes on Hillary's cock.

He's a great man.

"Being almost wholly composed of dullards and intellectual sluggards, [the military] is a painful hell for anyone with an IQ over 80. Be a beachcomber, a Parisian wino, an Italian pimp, or a Danish pervert; but stay away from the Armed Forces. It is a catch-all for people who regard every tommorrow as a hammer swinging at the head of a man, and whose outstanding trait is a fearful mistrust of everythign out of the ordianry." HST

"Ditto..." ManicLion

It sure as hell sent a message to Kenwood.....hello Kenwood, if you can hear me! Go to school or get sent to Iraq.

Exactly why he lost to Bush. THis is just going to loose him more respect and give him less of a chance in 08. Our military deserves the utmost respect and you will never see him give any.

Originally Posted by dg806

Exactly why he lost to Bush. THis is just going to loose him more respect and give him less of a chance in 08. Our military deserves the utmost respect and you will never see him give any.

I think he is a great statesman and human being.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I think he is a great statesman and human being.

And you also think that you can find food in the toilet.

I heard people talking shit about Kerry today in the gym. Someone about the soldiers. I guess this is what they were talking about.

Originally Posted by dg806

Exactly why he lost to Bush. THis is just going to loose him more respect and give him less of a chance in 08. Our military deserves the utmost respect and you will never see him give any.

Not again, I doubt he'll get anywhere.

John Who?

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

John Who?

You may have seen him:

Originally Posted by DOMS

You may have seen him:

Old but still fuggin hilarious ... ... I liked the one where they morphed from Kerry to Herman

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Old but still fuggin hilarious ... ... I liked the one where they morphed from Kerry to Herman

He was trying to say if you get a poor education you'll end up in Iraq ( talking about GWB fucking stuff up, not the soldiers)

Sorry, hadto play Devil's advocate. Bad break for the Dem's too, coming right before November elections

Originally Posted by dg806

Our military deserves the utmost respect and you will never see him give any.

You make me laugh.

He meant what he said, but it was true. Without any sort of stats, I would imagine most of the people in the militart are there as a last resort, but honestly, they probably come out smarter than they went in.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Without any sort of stats, I would imagine most of the people in the militart are there as a last resort, but honestly, they probably come out smarter than they went in.

Alot of these people, if there as a last resort are better off. If they don't join the military, they usually end up on the street or in a very low paying job. Yeah, the military may be a dangerous place to be, but the pay and incentives for them are better than if they had not gone and it makes them a good person for society more than likely when they get out.

Originally Posted by dg806

Alot of these people, if there as a last resort are better off. If they don't join the military, they usually end up on the street or in a very low paying job. Yeah, the military may be a dangerous place to be, but the pay and incentives for them are better than if they had not gone and it makes them a good person for society more than likely when they get out.

I agree with this.

Originally Posted by dg806

Exactly why he lost to Bush. THis is just going to loose him more respect and give him less of a chance in 08. Our military deserves the utmost respect and you will never see him give any.

Kerry is a douche, and had no business saying what he did on live TV. But, what he is saying is probably not far off. How many of you have ever gone to a Military Processing Station?
I have. I was real close to signing my name on the dotted line when I graduated high school. I went to MPS to take my ASVAB, take my physical, and an assortment of other things, and I swear to god those were the most pathetic group of losers and misfits I have ever seen. That was the main reason I didn't go in, was I saw the caliber of people that were enlisting. Everything from the typical gang thug to the general IQ's of 70 and under. Most of those kids had no chance in life other than the military.
I hope that the military turned those kids life's around, and I am sure it did for many. A little discipline and structure can go a long way.

What Kerry said is like pointing at a retarded kid and saying "look, that kid is retarded". It may be true, but don't fucking say it.

Kerrys back

I disagree. I'm enlisting and I have the grades to go to a good college. I'm enlisting for financial and career goals, (mostly financial) I want to work in criminal justice. Granted, I'm sure there are enlistee's who do it to get out of some shitty situation ie poverty, and the people who couldnt get better pay anywhere else, but I still think that saying

"That was the main reason I didn't go in, was I saw the caliber of people that were enlisting. Everything from the typical gang thug to the general IQ's of 70 and under. Most of those kids had no chance in life other than the military."


is a load of crap.

You see, there is a inherent problem with the idea that all people who join the military are misfits and second class trolls. It may be true that there is a percentage to which we could classify them as "dip shits" however a large percentage of them are not. Take for instants the officer corp in the Marine Corps. All of them have college degrees and are trained in several areas of specialty. It is not uncommon to have a supply officer who is also an F-18 pilot, or a S-2 officer who is a hoover craft pilot. Not to mention they could take your head off with an M-16 at 500 yards! I think tho say that "if you don't do yur homework you will end up in Iraq" is an insult to the most technologically advanced fighting force the world has ever seen. I think Mr Kerry failed to realize that if you do not have a highschool diploma you can't even get into the US Marine Corps, but you can get elected to public office!

I believe that Kerry didn't think before he popped off and he owes our armed forces an appology. Whether he follows through with it or not is his perogative. In the end however I think he casued his party to loose votes over his incompetent remarks.

Just an old Marine's opinion!

Originally Posted by devildog88

You see, there is a inherent problem with the idea that all people who join the military are misfits and second class trolls. It may be true that there is a percentage to which we could classify them as "dip shits" however a large percentage of them are not. Take for instants the officer corp in the Marine Corps. All of them have college degrees and are trained in several areas of specialty. It is not uncommon to have a supply officer who is also an F-18 pilot, or a S-2 officer who is a hoover craft pilot. Not to mention they could take your head off with an M-16 at 500 yards! I think tho say that "if you don't do yur homework you will end up in Iraq" is an insult to the most technologically advanced fighting force the world has ever seen. I think Mr Kerry failed to realize that if you do not have a highschool diploma you can't even get into the US Marine Corps, but you can get elected to public office!

I believe that Kerry didn't think before he popped off and he owes our armed forces an appology. Whether he follows through with it or not is his perogative. In the end however I think he casued his party to loose votes over his incompetent remarks.

Just an old Marine's opinion!

Isn't that a woman's job?


Joking aside, I agree with your post 100%.

Originally Posted by devildog88

You see, there is a inherent problem with the idea that all people who join the military are misfits and second class trolls. It may be true that there is a percentage to which we could classify them as "dip shits" however a large percentage of them are not. Take for instants the officer corp in the Marine Corps. All of them have college degrees and are trained in several areas of specialty. It is not uncommon to have a supply officer who is also an F-18 pilot, or a S-2 officer who is a hoover craft pilot. Not to mention they could take your head off with an M-16 at 500 yards! I think tho say that "if you don't do yur homework you will end up in Iraq" is an insult to the most technologically advanced fighting force the world has ever seen. I think Mr Kerry failed to realize that if you do not have a highschool diploma you can't even get into the US Marine Corps, but you can get elected to public office!

I believe that Kerry didn't think before he popped off and he owes our armed forces an appology. Whether he follows through with it or not is his perogative. In the end however I think he casued his party to loose votes over his incompetent remarks.

Just an old Marine's opinion!

MOst officers won't see a minute of combat, they are obviously not the focus of discussion. The grunts are who we are referring to, of which I imagine a large percentage are not the cream of the crop as far as education goes.

Originally Posted by goandykid

I disagree. I'm enlisting and I have the grades to go to a good college. I'm enlisting for financial and career goals, (mostly financial) I want to work in criminal justice. Granted, I'm sure there are enlistee's who do it to get out of some shitty situation ie poverty, and the people who couldnt get better pay anywhere else, but I still think that saying

The financial reasons would put you with the disadvantaged. If you could get a full academic scholarship, would you still enlist?

"That was the main reason I didn't go in, was I saw the caliber of people that were enlisting. Everything from the typical gang thug to the general IQ's of 70 and under. Most of those kids had no chance in life other than the military."


is a load of crap.

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In the Marine Corps, Even the grunts must have a high school diploma. As of recent the Corps wasn't even accepting a GED as a substitute.

Having said that I will also comment that the typical grunt is probably not the most educated, but wars are won with the "Blue Collar" boys. It has been noted that the most dangerous weapon in the world is a well trained Marine with an M16. Wars cannot be won with out them. I would say you are more likely to run into an uneducated ameba in your son or daughters daycare center or in your local auto repair shop than in the military.

Originally Posted by devildog88

In the Marine Corps, Even the grunts must have a high school diploma. As of recent the Corps wasn't even accepting a GED as a substitute.

Having said that I will also comment that the typical grunt is probably not the most educated, but wars are won with the "Blue Collar" boys. It has been noted that the most dangerous weapon in the world is a well trained Marine with an M16. Wars cannot be won with out them. I would say you are more likely to run into an uneducated ameba in your son or daughters daycare center or in your local auto repair shop than in the military.

I'm not saying they aren't good, hardworking people who are the basis for all wars won. I am saying they aren't the most educated. Having said that, i don't believe the American population, as a whole, is all that educated. It is a last resort for a significant portion of the population, which was what I believe was Kerry's point, I don't believe he was taking a jab at Bush.