Thread: Since the last election....

Originally Posted by Witmaster

Don't you think it's odd we haven't heard much from the media about the electronic voting conspiracy?

I guess that sort of hogwash is only appropriate when the democrats lose an election!

http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...115142856.aspx

It is a bit too quiet.....

That was the dumbest shit I ever heard. It was a pre-excuse for if they lost, because there is no way it should have been as close as it was. Although, there weren't many seats up for grabs.

It's not hogwash. Electronic voting machines yield results that have no paper trail. We must accept the word of private companies as to the validity of the results (proprietary protections), the majority of which, have allegiance to the republican party.

I have yet to review the data for exit polling for the latest election. Whatever that outcome is, it doesn't mean widespread use of fraud. Smart fixers pick and choose their battles. The historical model for fraud is the 2004 presidential election.
http://election04.ssrc.org/research/..._exit-poll.pdf

You can see by these results that we can and will have problems down the road.

Let's not forget that the CEO of Diebold Warren O'Dell actually said, he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president (Bush)" in 2004.

What the fuck do you mean committed to delivering the electoral votes to Bush?

I'm still against electronic voting machines, at least those with no paper trail. That is entirely ludicrous and should have never come to fruition.

Originally Posted by Decker

It's not hogwash.

This is called picking and choosing. I wonder how many states had machine tallies that were wrong in favor of the democrats?

Wow, I guess I was right when I thought NH looked too close...

Look at the report re Florida--the odds of that discrepancy occurring is 3/1000. If you buy those kinds of odds, I got a bridge with your name on it.

I have found no "discrepancies" in electronic voting tallies that favor democrats. If you find any, please let me know.

Sheesh............let them get beat again and you will hear the democrats complaining about paper ballots too!

I can't help but think that if Dems won the 04 election by the same discrepancies you'd be cryng too, DG.

Originally Posted by goandykid

I can't help but think that if Dems won the 04 election by the same discrepancies you'd be cryng too, DG.

Shut up! You make too much sense. Using reason in a political thread is forbidden.

It blows my mind how people thing that hand counting millions of paper ballots is better than computer voting.

Originally Posted by goandykid

I can't help but think that if Dems won the 04 election by the same discrepancies you'd be cryng too, DG.

I care who wins the elections, but I am a bit of idealist and the integrity of the system is important to me. The merest appearance of impropriety is enough to set me off. It would piss me off if the Dems were clever enough to pull off such ploy.

Originally Posted by Decker

I care who wins the elections, but I am a bit of idealist and the integrity of the system is important to me. The merest appearance of impropriety is enough to set me off. It would piss me off if the Dems were clever enough to pull off such ploy.

By DG I mean dg806, not you. It wasn't a jab.

Originally Posted by goandykid

By DG I mean dg806, not you. It wasn't a jab.

I know. I just thought I'd head off at the pass questions about my character in relation to this topic.

Originally Posted by Decker

I know. I just thought I'd head off at the pass questions about my character in relation to this topic.

Oh. How's the BIG10 excitement up there for Saturday? I almost got a chance to go tot he Wisc vs Mich game earlier this season.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Shut up! You make too much sense. Using reason in a political thread is forbidden.

I must have missed that. It's the Dems that like to cry about shit.

This picture sums it up:

not nice.

Originally Posted by Decker

I know. I just thought I'd head off at the pass questions about my character in relation to this topic.

Your character is in good standing.

Yeah we had that earlier politics thread that practically turned into a Decker love thread.

Sec, lemme find it.

Originally Posted by Decker

I know. I just thought I'd head off at the pass questions about my character in relation to this topic.

Are you saying you "didn't have sexual relations with that woman?" Or "a Cigar is just a Cigar?"

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...12#post1495412

The deck-ophiling starts on page 16 and just picks up speed

Originally Posted by Pepper

It blows my mind how people thing that hand counting millions of paper ballots is better than computer voting.

I agree. Whether we count them by hand, or we count them using computers, the problem persist. Democrats and Rebublicians have members in their organization that would cheat the system any way they could.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I must have missed that. It's the Dems that like to cry about shit.

This picture sums it up:

Isn't this thread bitching and complaining about somebody else always bitching and complaining?

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Hum hu.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Isn't this thread bitching and complaining about somebody else always bitching and complaining?

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Hum hu.

Stop bitching.

Originally Posted by goandykid

Oh. How's the BIG10 excitement up there for Saturday? I almost got a chance to go tot he Wisc vs Mich game earlier this season.

It's big...Coach Bielema is starting to become as popular as Alvarez was. That MI game was good. It could have ended better but what the hell.

Originally Posted by KelJu

I agree. Whether we count them by hand, or we count them using computers, the problem persist. Democrats and Rebublicians have members in their organization that would cheat the system any way they could.

Computers are much safer provided you can make sure the code is not tampered with. How do you do that?

How do the banks keep programmers from stealing cash?
How to the airlines keep programmers from getting or giving away free flights?
How does Walmart keep the programmers from adding bogus employees to each payroll?
How does the gaming commison make sure that slot machines pay out what they promise?
How do the casinos keep the slot maching programmers from rigging the machines?

You have controls. You test the controls. You have independent auditors.

I am not saying these things don't still happen, but these systems are much more reliable than some goob with a pen and paper.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Your character is in good standing.

Thanks man. But DOMS thinks I'm slippery and loose with the truth. He accuses me of using every underhanded rhetorical ploy in the book in the soldier's thread. I don't mind. I got a lot to prove.

Originally Posted by Witmaster

Are you saying you "didn't have sexual relations with that woman?" Or "a Cigar is just a Cigar?"

Yes....No....I don't know. Just because I don't know what I'm talking about doesn't mean I'm lying.