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    I just dont get it. I had a girlfriend a long time ago that I always put first...guess what, she fucking died of selfishness in a wonderful accident involving a gun, a rope, and a jar of vitamins. At that point, my friends were still there to take me in. I heard all sorts of shit during and after the demise of my ex and I understood it.

    My good friend just got kicked out of his house and said to me "youre glad I am single now arent you?" NO. I dont fucking care. What I care about is the fact that this asshole was a total bitch while in a relationship.

    Is it really so hard to have friends AND a girlfriend? Ive done it since my first mistake. I dont understand the pussy whipped bullshit.

    Your friends will be there before, during, and after any girl...at least thats the norm. So why do people shy away from what matters most?

    Is it cuz of pussy? A good friend will help net you lots of pussy, not just one.
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    Funny a topic like this comes up. A good friend of mine started going out with his girl about a month ago and we rarely hang out or talk anymore. They're together 24/7.

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    lol thats called pussy-whipped where i'm from. i have a friend who really only hangs out between girls. its always the same, a call that they broke up or what not, then you guys hang again for a bit, later "oh i met this girl" and finally, "you wanna hang out tonight?" "nah, i'm with my girl"
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    Every now and again is fine. But theres this one guy (We'll call him "A") i know, who literally started ignoring all of us when he got with this girl. Even when they werent actually physically together.

    Our mutual friend ("B"), who "A" has known since they were 5, would drive up there and see if he wanted to hang out, and "A" would just say "No, i'm good." and shut the front door!

    This happened over the course of a few months, and in retrospect "A" phased us all out one by one. Well, a month or two ago they broke up. On the day...literally the SAME DAY...guess who shows up at my house after picking up "B" from his house?

    Its irritating. I'm better friends with "B" now, actually. I even play bass in his band, haha. We never really hung out or talked a great deal before all that crap happened. I guess having a common thing to bitch about gave us an excuse to talk :P.

    It's different with me, because i've known and been friends with my girlfriend for just as long as i've known most of my friends. We were pretty much all part of the same group at one point. *Shrugs*
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    I am pussy whipped..... wait no I am married.


    Ah right, yes I am pussy whipped I forgot... my wife reminded me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post

    Is it cuz of pussy? A good friend will help net you lots of pussy, not just one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    I just dont get it. I had a girlfriend a long time ago that I always put first...guess what, she fucking died of selfishness in a wonderful accident involving a gun, a rope, and a jar of vitamins. At that point, my friends were still there to take me in. I heard all sorts of shit during and after the demise of my ex and I understood it.

    My good friend just got kicked out of his house and said to me "youre glad I am single now arent you?" NO. I dont fucking care. What I care about is the fact that this asshole was a total bitch while in a relationship.

    Is it really so hard to have friends AND a girlfriend? Ive done it since my first mistake. I dont understand the pussy whipped bullshit.

    Your friends will be there before, during, and after any girl...at least thats the norm. So why do people shy away from what matters most?

    Is it cuz of pussy? A good friend will help net you lots of pussy, not just one.
    Well most of the time, the girls don't care too much for their man's friends. While we enjoy going to the Ale House and being the loudest assholes in the place, the ladies don't care for that all too much. After a few times the woman starts throwing a tantrum and in the end it's just easier to go along with what she says than to fight it every time. Then she actually has you convinced that you aren't having as good a time as you think you are when you are out with your friends, and you succumb to the pressure of the pussy. Days pass, then weeks, and before you know it, it's been 2 months since you've seen your friends. Ultimately sacrifices have to be made in order to find the right woman. In James' case, he didn't have much choice, once you move in with your girl you have to follow a few rules, that's only fair. Moving in with Nicole was a big mistake obviously, because he couldn't find the right balance and alas, they are not together anymore.

    Who are any of us to judge someone for the choices they make anyway? If he doesn't want to hang out, so be it. It sucks sometimes, but that's life. Some call it selling out, some call being pussy whipped, I call it growing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatCatMC View Post
    Who are any of us to judge someone for the choices they make anyway? If he doesn't want to hang out, so be it. It sucks sometimes, but that's life.
    That's what I say too. It sucks watching a friend slowly drift away until you rarely see him/her anymore. My buddy will meet one girl and then "wife" her up for like 2-3 years. And he refuses to chill with both me and his girl at the same time. Instead he'll make plans for different days with different people. It's pathetic in my mind, but it's their life so fuck him. More than likely, they'll regret it down the road.

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    What I have learned in my dating time, is that I dont know everything. So generalizing and assuming is out. To think that every girl will be a drag is dreadful and depressing. If that is the ultimate truth, I will fight the other battle or "give up" when I experience something new.

    In the meantime, I will have fun and soak in the glories of being single. The only type of gfriend Ive ever been interested in shares me with my friends. So far so good with this one!

    Hahaha, I remember the golden rule. (To respond to Goodfella) Sunday-Tuesday are girlfriend days. Wednesday-Thursday are option days (solo, friends, or her) Friday-Saturday are friend days. If she had anything to say about it...like the infamous "youre always getting drunk with your friends," just remind her of the golden rule and point out that youre with her more time of the week than your friends.....unless you see them on option days.
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    My gf thinks my pot smoking, lazy, watches tv all day best friend is a dick. I don't get it.

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    Agreed with Ian, but if your married its totally different. I know lots of people who do that. I also did it with my first girlfriend and ever since every one I have had after her I have made it a point to go out with my buddies once or twice a week. Normally once of the weekends so I could get plum stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublebase View Post
    My gf thinks my pot smoking, lazy, watches tv all day best friend is a dick. I don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    What I have learned in my dating time, is that I dont know everything. So generalizing and assuming is out. To think that every girl will be a drag is dreadful and depressing. If that is the ultimate truth, I will fight the other battle or "give up" when I experience something new.

    In the meantime, I will have fun and soak in the glories of being single. The only type of gfriend Ive ever been interested in shares me with my friends. So far so good with this one!

    Hahaha, I remember the golden rule. (To respond to Goodfella) Sunday-Tuesday are girlfriend days. Wednesday-Thursday are option days (solo, friends, or her) Friday-Saturday are friend days. If she had anything to say about it...like the infamous "youre always getting drunk with your friends," just remind her of the golden rule and point out that youre with her more time of the week than your friends.....unless you see them on option days.
    I've never heard that golden rule. I do what I want to when I want to. If I wanna hang out with my girlfriend on a Saturday night, I'm not gonna let some peer pressure change that. If someone has a problem with that, tough shit, it's my life. Nobody should have to defend themselves or feel guilty for doing something that their friends don't approve of, or understand for that matter. It's a different ballgame completely however if someone says they are going to hang out with you and then back out so they can hang out with their woman on a consistent basis, that's shitty. Different people have different relationship goals. I like going out as much as the next guy, but I don't do it every night, or every week for that matter, and I look for that quality in a girl. My favorite thing to do with a woman (besides sex of course) is renting a good movie, kicking back a few beers, and chillin at the house all night. If I had to catch shit from my friends for that, then maybe it's friend re-evaluation time.

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    I just read through this and it makes me giggle. I've been dating my bf for about 4 months now and his friends give him shit all the time. We are only together a couple nights during the week and then definitely Saturday and Sunday. I know his friends and they all like me. We do stuff with them (with or without their girlfriends) when it works out. I come from the school of let your man go play with his friends. He's probably going to the Bears game on Sunday (without me) and I'm not mad...just super jealous..lol Anyway, a girl that's comfortable with herself would not have an issue with it. Maybe it's because I'm *cough* older..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanick View Post
    lol thats called pussy-whipped where i'm from. i have a friend who really only hangs out between girls. its always the same, a call that they broke up or what not, then you guys hang again for a bit, later "oh i met this girl" and finally, "you wanna hang out tonight?" "nah, i'm with my girl"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerlynn View Post
    Maybe it's because I'm *cough* older..lol
    Old???? You, jeez I must be a dinosaur with that way of thinking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dero View Post
    Old???? You, jeez I must be a dinosaur with that way of thinking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    I knew Patrick was like that.
    Pat only hung out between boyfriends
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerlynn View Post
    I just read through this and it makes me giggle. I've been dating my bf for about 4 months now and his friends give him shit all the time. We are only together a couple nights during the week and then definitely Saturday and Sunday. I know his friends and they all like me. We do stuff with them (with or without their girlfriends) when it works out. I come from the school of let your man go play with his friends. He's probably going to the Bears game on Sunday (without me) and I'm not mad...just super jealous..lol Anyway, a girl that's comfortable with herself would not have an issue with it. Maybe it's because I'm *cough* older..lol
    And thats the ticket. Honestly, I usually never even notice a friend's girlfriend as a negative point when they hang out with the group....unless its 'that' girl. The girl everyone hates. "No dont drink that, no lets go here, I dont like him, I dont like her, waaa waaaa " I have a couple of friends who hang out with us while with their girlfriends. Now thats not bad, cuz theyre together and theyre out n about. Then I have another friend who who hangs out with us, with his girlfriend, AND he acts the exact same way as he does if she wasnt around. Coolest girl, hot as fuck. The man is one lucky bastard.

    I see these types of relationships and know that they exist. It is possible to have friends, have a happy girlfriend, and the pissing and moaning is at a minimum. Apparently, some dont do that at all.


    Quote Originally Posted by Double D View Post
    Agreed with Ian, but if your married its totally different. I know lots of people who do that. I also did it with my first girlfriend and ever since every one I have had after her I have made it a point to go out with my buddies once or twice a week. Normally once of the weekends so I could get plum stupid.
    Now this is the perfect formula. Not only do you hang out with your significant other MOST of the time, but you also have something to look forward to at the end of the week. Once a week is a pretty good ratio, twice is better, but twice would be just enough. Otherwise, Id get sick of my friends or they would interfere with ME getting laid. Not to mention, Id be running out of money.

    What cooks my noodle is what was already stated. Motherfuckers that blow off their friends completely and expect to be "taken in" when they fuck up. Hmm whatdoyaknow, all that time with that gfriend of his and it STILL ended. Ah well, as a friend Ill take them in cuz whats the harm? I give them shit, then move on. Then the cycle repeats.

    As far as being an asshole for giving friends shit about it, BFD. What friends arent gonna do that? Friends will always bust friends' balls, regardless if its over pussy or a video game, its just comrad shit. Besides, I know I will hear it again some time in the future, so the cycle repeats.
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    My gf loves to party and gets along great with my friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombul View Post
    My gf loves to party and gets along great with my friends.
    I know...... and she can 'party' all night.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by goob View Post
    I know...... and she can 'party' all night.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    Hah! I just noticed you have a movie fictional character above your avatar like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goob View Post
    I know...... and she can 'party' all night.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    Ah well, as a friend Ill take them in cuz whats the harm?
    Cuz that's what friends do.

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    My friends have all moved away or have started to settle down with the partying, the only friend who still goes out and does stuff works on weekends so I get to hang with him on a Saturday or Sunday evenings, but lately it's been hard to get together because either I am too busy or he is too busy.....the good thing is that no matter how often we see one another we'll always be there if the other falls down....
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    And the thing is that in new relationships there's a lot of fucking going on, I remember when I first met my GF we were fucking 3 or 4 times a day....we'd be too tired to go out at night. When we did go out with our friends we'd be out for a couple hours and end up getting drunk and racing home in a cab to fuck...... So don't be a cockblocking asshole and let your friend get as much sex as he can cause after the initial trial period the sex will drop off drastically....
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    I know this is a general statement and I hope no one is offended by it, but I find that girls are jealous and like to be controlling when it comes to things they are insecure about. They don't want you hanging with other girls and if you're hanging with the boys, she might think they'll get you to cheat or leave her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    And the thing is that in new relationships there's a lot of fucking going on, I remember when I first met my GF we were fucking 3 or 4 times a day....we'd be too tired to go out at night. When we did go out with our friends we'd be out for a couple hours and end up getting drunk and racing home in a cab to fuck...... So don't be a cockblocking asshole and let your friend get as much sex as he can cause after the initial trial period the sex will drop off drastically....
    Now now, I am totally with you on that one. Getting laid, failling love, straight up fucking go with the territory. I do remember being a victim of my own accusation and I informed my friend who had battered me for wanting to fuck rather than drink, I told him, "dickhead, this is new, good pussy and shes fun. shes not a girlfriend...yet." I think thats what life is about, new experiences, so soak it up while its new.

    Quote Originally Posted by KentDog View Post
    I know this is a general statement and I hope no one is offended by it, but I find that girls are jealous and like to be controlling when it comes to things they are insecure about. They don't want you hanging with other girls and if you're hanging with the boys, she might think they'll get you to cheat or leave her.
    Now this, THIS is what just happened to my friend. His now ex-girlfriend didnt liek me cuz I may cause him to cheat on her. Hmm I didnt know I could physically insert his penis into other vagingas! The fucker acted on his own, not to mention, most of the cheating times that occurred were not in my presence. In fact, it was laid secret for some time.

    Girls want attention...shit, who doesnt? And just cuz someone will hang out with friends, it doesnt mean they are going to cheat. What about those late nights at the office? Last time I checked, thats not a place that me and friends go partying....but you can get railed there!

    Bottom line, if someone is going to cheat, guy or girl, they will have a way to do it and find a way to get away with it.
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