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Old 02-24-2007, 03:30 PM   #31
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It's more horrific than that.

About 6 months ago, there was a story in the news (I think) about a (black) guy that was told by a (black) woman, that the child she had was his. He manned up took responsibility. Later on, after a dispute of some sort, the guy got a blood test. It turned out that they kid was not his. But some suck-ass judge said that because he had accepted responsibility as the father, that he had to keep accepting that responsibility and made him keep paying for the kid.

How fucked up is that?
Was the judge a female?



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Old 02-24-2007, 03:32 PM   #32
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^ happens all the time. it is SOP now. it's wrong as hell but it's how it is. it needs to be changed.



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Old 02-24-2007, 03:40 PM   #33
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I am totally missing the point. What did he do that was so wrong? He involved him self in a casual relationship is all I see. Some aspects of her personality he did not like, some parts he did so he went with it. How does that turn him into what you see him as?
he ignored a big red flag. several of them by the sound of things. fine ignore all the warning signs but don't whine to me when it turns out you fucked up ignoring them. n he did more than involve himself in a casual relationship, i can't explain it if you don't see it but he wasn't being mature at all. he gave a big "let the games begin" n then pissed himself when she tried to play him.

lioness is right, no woman of character would date this guy, n no man of character would have dated that chick. they are both losers.



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Old 02-24-2007, 04:29 PM   #34
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he ignored a big red flag. several of them by the sound of things. fine ignore all the warning signs but don't whine to me when it turns out you fucked up ignoring them. n he did more than involve himself in a casual relationship, i can't explain it if you don't see it but he wasn't being mature at all. he gave a big "let the games begin" n then pissed himself when she tried to play him.

lioness is right, no woman of character would date this guy, n no man of character would have dated that chick. they are both losers.
Don't hate me for dissagreeing with you LW but I do understand what you are saying ... I just don't agree that he did anything that was so low of character. Seeing the flags as he stated he did and going ahead doesn't mean he fired the starting gun for the games to begin. This is where our opinions diverge. Having sex with a woman he knew he wasn't going to marry doesn't make him a bastard. He saw the flags and went on because she appealed to him physically. That is not an entitlement for her to try and defraud the guy ...

She was looking for something serious while he was just messing around. I've been on both ends of that but that did not give either one of us the right to defraud the other. I lived with a bi female for a while. We had a great time but we were not compatible in many ways and I knew that from the start of the relationship. I stayed, played and eventually moved on. Does that make me the same kinda asshole he is in your book? Hope not ...

My point is that under no circunstances does seeing someone as not all you want in a partner and going ahead with the relationship make a person a low life. You seem to see that differently.
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The fact of the matter is, even if he was in the wrong (and I don't think he is), she was aiming to fuck up his life.

I'm going to assume that she wasn't so fucked up to knowingly pin another guy's child on him. I'm going to assume that, with all of her whoring about, that she didn't know who the father was and simply chose him as the one that she thought was best. If she's that big a whore-bag to him at the beginning of their marriage, how do you think she'll be treating him years from now? At best, he's be tied to her via alimony and child support. At worst, she stay with him and be a complete douche bag.

Simply put, he wanted to hurt her feeling, she wanted to fuck up his life.



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hahaha, sweeeeeeet. Gotta love the best of Craigs.



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The fact of the matter is, even if he was in the wrong (and I don't think he is), she was aiming to fuck up his life.

I'm going to assume that she wasn't so fucked up to knowingly pin another guy's child on him. I'm going to assume that, with all of her whoring about, that she didn't know who the father was and simply chose him as the one that she thought was best. If she's that big a whore-bag to him at the beginning of their marriage, how do you think she'll be treating him years from now? At best, he's be tied to her via alimony and child support. At worst, she stay with him and be a complete douche bag.

Simply put, he wanted to hurt her feeling, she wanted to fuck up his life.

even if she regretted her indescresion and hoped with all her heart the kid was really his she gives all women a bad name. she's a disgrace that doesn't have enough self respect to be honest let alone enough respect for him. but by dating a girl he pretty much knew was a whore bag he is as responsible for the outcome as her. he wanted to get his cock wet n he really didn't care if this girl had poor character or not. n by the whole secrecy of the vasectomy n his comment " the usual comments about my manhood" it sounds like he's made a lifestyle out of making poor choices. he has a serious lack of brain power and is fucking his own life up just fine. sounds like a worthless dumbass to me. which makes him perfectly suited to the girl he was dissing. they are, for all intents and purposes, birds of a feather



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Old 02-24-2007, 08:12 PM   #38
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this guy is saying "look, i stuck my dick in a turd and i outsmarted it" wtf is admirable about a guy that fucks turds?


does that make my point any clearer?



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Old 02-24-2007, 08:26 PM   #39
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"hold on i'm preparing a lifeboat and some survival supplies cuz i'm going to go out n land myself another lowlife, money-grubbing, cheating whore bag. i want to be prepared when things go south. eh, finding a good woman that will actually fuck me is impossible so i better be prepared for the worst cuz weirdddddd but i always seem to attract trouble."


yeaaaa, let's all kiss this douche bags feet.



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even if she regretted her indescresion and hoped with all her heart the kid was really his she gives all women a bad name. she's a disgrace that doesn't have enough self respect to be honest let alone enough respect for him. but by dating a girl he pretty much knew was a whore bag he is as responsible for the outcome as her. he wanted to get his cock wet n he really didn't care if this girl had poor character or not. n by the whole secrecy of the vasectomy n his comment " the usual comments about my manhood" it sounds like he's made a lifestyle out of making poor choices. he has a serious lack of brain power and is fucking his own life up just fine. sounds like a worthless dumbass to me. which makes him perfectly suited to the girl he was dissing. they are, for all intents and purposes, birds of a feather
All he wanted was some casual relationship with casual sex. She's the one that tried to drop a baby on him. It's after she tried that bullshit that he played her. Also keep in mind that the moment she tried to pin the child on him, he knew that he was screwing around with at least one more guy. She tried to play him, but he ended up playing her.



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http://www.easternecho.com/cgi-bin/story.cgi?31638

.....like the Michigan man who proved he had not sired his son but was still ordered to send child-support payments directly to the boy's biological father, who was granted custody after the mom moved out of his place and left the kid there."

... 36-year-old Dylan Davis, a software engineer in Denver, who questioned the paternity of his 6-year-old twins. A negative DNA test proved he wasn't the father. His ex-wife moved and while he no longer has contact with the kids, "under Colorado law he is still required to pay $663 a month in child support."

are women evil or are some men just stupid? the law is on the whorebags side so guys be smart and don't sleep with a woman you can't trust. and if you do don't expect sympathy from me. and here's a little tip... a woman that will let you use her for sport fucking isn't too bright and certainly has very little moral character. so pawning off another guy's kid as yours probably won't seem much worse to her than you using her for a sport fuck does. all's fair in love and stupidity i guess.



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this guy is saying "look, i stuck my dick in a turd and i outsmarted it" wtf is admirable about a guy that fucks turds?


does that make my point any clearer?
Ehhhh ... not so much. Still working my way past the symbolism ... and the visuals you installed into my brain.

You get into all this placing of guilt because of his dating her. Where I'm from you need to actually do something to be guilty. He dated a women of dubious intentions. You say he's a fucktard that deserved her fraudulent actions for dating her. Have you ever dated a few Mr. Wrongs while waiting for Mr Right to knock at the door? No crime there. We still disagree.

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even if she regretted her indescresion and hoped with all her heart the kid was really his she gives all women a bad name. she's a disgrace that doesn't have enough self respect to be honest let alone enough respect for him.
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but by dating a girl he pretty much knew was a whore bag he is as responsible for the outcome as her.
Not. Nothing justified her trying to defraud him like that. The victim of a crime is not responsible for the actions of the perp, regardless of the victim's motives. Think of rape victims ...

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he wanted to get his cock wet n he really didn't care if this girl had poor character or not.
Agreed, but a casual relationship with someone is not a crime.

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n by the whole secrecy of the vasectomy n his comment " the usual comments about my manhood" it sounds like he's made a lifestyle out of making poor choices.
Some people are vitriol and caustic as hell with others in very creative ways while those pissed off moments are upon them ... her words at him can't create a list of priors out of thin air and then convict him of those fictions.

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he has a serious lack of brain power and is fucking his own life up just fine. sounds like a worthless dumbass to me. which makes him perfectly suited to the girl he was dissing. they are, for all intents and purposes, birds of a feather
We disagree again. Sorry LW I mean you no insult here. Seriously. I gotta say though that his well planned collection of the notarized documentation he needed to prove his sterility was shear genius. He showed a financial success that put him at the top of her list of choices. Not the mentality of an idiot.

The fact that he had the responsibility to even get a vasectomy to prevent unwanted childbirth, instead of just leaving it up to the woman ... demonstrates he had more character than you give him credit for.
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Gezzzz you realllllllly hate this guy Little Wing.
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BoneCrusher, I have a question about all this.



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Be gentle ... I know you and LW hang out and all ...
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How do you get so many quotes in a post?



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Not. Nothing justified her trying to defraud him like that. The victim of a crime is not responsible for the actions of the perp, regardless of the victim's motives. Think of rape victims ...
he greased up his asshole, bent over n opened up wide enough to redefine gape then begged to be butt fisted by dating a 32 yr old with a loudly ticking clock, a selfish streak and who he trusted so much he used condoms to protect against stds....

i just don't get where he was surprised at the outcome. it's no big surprise. he wants to be respected for his foresight and the way he handled things he thinks intelligently. i think if he were truly an intelligent man he'd pick better partners.



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i don't hate him i just get reallllly sick of people whining about their troubles like they had no part in ending up in the shitty situations they are in.

ever try to warn a guy having an affair with a married woman he's going to get hurt? or convince a woman not to date a guy that gives you the eye behind her back? they never listen cuz they are greedy stupid pathetic assholes that just want to get laid...... THEN when it inevitably blows up in their faces they want you to sympathize and tell them how evil the other guy was. it's tiring. craig is just one more irresponsible dumbshit that wades in the sewer than sits down n cries cuz his feet stink.



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How do you get so many quotes in a post?
I use the button ... or just type in the html code
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I've been since '03 and now I finally learned how this is done.



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The qoutes...not the tub girl thingy.



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craig's new prize?



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i don't hate him i just get reallllly sick of people whining about their troubles like they had no part in ending up in the shitty situations they are in.

ever try to warn a guy having an affair with a married woman he's going to get hurt? or convince a woman not to date a guy that gives you the eye behind her back? they never listen cuz they are greedy stupid pathetic assholes that just want to get laid...... THEN when it inevitably blows up in their faces they want you to sympathize and tell them how evil the other guy was.
I was in a bar in Nebraska back in like 94. This fine ass big tittied chic starts giving me that look. Straight in the eyes, turned her body to face me then started playing with her bottom lip. I had seen her with some guy earlier and wanted to avoid trouble so I went over and asked him if he was datin her. He said who her? I pointed and said that her over there. He said yeah why WTF did I want to know for. I told him what she had done ... he got pissed at her and sent her packing then we got drunk. We're still friends.

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it's tiring. craig is just one more irresponsible dumbshit that wades in the sewer than sits down n cries cuz his feet stink.
I was totally with you up to the craig part ... then I'm even with you for a short drive. He should be aiming higher up on the food chain. Why fuck with dubious woman when good girls are all around needing a little lovin?

Craig isn't crying though, he's bragging.

I still have to say he didn't deserve to get railed by that bitch. By that logic strippers in the parking lot are fair game. They dance around and on guys for money and are of low moral fiber. The men they dance on and around aren't all doing so good on the moral front either. By that logic they deserve to get gang-banged in the parking lot and shouldn't whine about it afterwards. It doesn't wash ... neither crime is called for and neither should ever be committed.

Been an interesting chat though ... look forward to the next one
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