Thread: UFO evidence or hoax?

BigDyl phone home......

The guy sounds nuts, which casts doubt on the footage.

Aside from that, maybe it was the video quality, but "aircraft" seem to be moving in bursts. This may be consistent with the ramjet that the military has been working on.

Haha.. Look at the smile of the reporter at 50 seconds of the video.

What did he drink?

Also look at 1 minute and 20 seconds, is that marijuana?

It's all real.



Seriously though, if this is a hoax, how could you possibly get all of these officials and experts to cooberate the story? There seems to be so many of these conspiracy UFO videos. There has got to be thousands or tens of thousands of people working in secret to create them, spending god knows how much money and time just to play tricks on everyone?

If we aren't the only galaxy in the universe... there is more to it than just us.

Originally Posted by ABCs

If we aren't the only galaxy in the universe... there is more to it than just us.

Exactly. Given the abundance of life on this planet alone, out of the exponential exspance that is the Universe, there is no way that we can be alone.

The odds on this planet being the only one with life in the Universe would be astronomical.

Originally Posted by goob

Exactly. Given the abundance of life on this planet alone, out of the exponential exspance that is the Universe, there is no way that we can be alone.

The odds on this planet being the only one with life in the Universe would be astronomical.

they flew 30 billion light years just to cruise our atmosphere and then leave.

Originally Posted by viet_jon

they flew 30 billion light years just to cruise our atmosphere and then leave.

I'm not saying that this story was real.

BTW, we travel 2 miles down underwater in submersibles, to look around for 10 minutes, and then leave. All relative my young padwan.....

Originally Posted by viet_jon

they flew 30 billion light years just to cruise our atmosphere and then leave.

The visible universe isn't even that large.


They could have "flown" 50-100 light years and found us. There is probably many civilizations within 1000-10000 light years away.

Originally Posted by goob

I'm not saying that this story was real.

BTW, we travel 2 miles down underwater in submersibles, to look around for 10 minutes, and then leave. All relative my young padwan.....

my bad I misunderstood you. The comment is better fit for bigdyl.

Originally Posted by viet_jon

my bad I misunderstood you. The comment is better fit for bigdyl.

I've had enough of you lately.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

The visible universe isn't even that large.


They could have "flown" 50-100 light years and found us. There is probably many civilizations within 1000-10000 light years away.

not that large?

our brains cannot picture how big the observable universe is.

don't you think that if they flew from 1000's of light years away, that they'll do a little more than just cruise around?

if aliens landed on earth, they'd come with a bang. It wouldn't be sightings here and there. It would be a gigantic event.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I've had enough of you lately.

lol ....my bad.

I'm always grouchy all the time. I need a cigarette.

Originally Posted by viet_jon

not that large?

our brains cannot picture how big the observable universe is.

don't you think that if they flew from 1000's of light years away, that they'll do a little more than just cruise around?

if aliens landed on earth, they'd come with a bang. It wouldn't be sightings here and there. It would be a gigantic event.

Unless they are here already?

Originally Posted by goob

BTW, we travel 2 miles down underwater in submersibles, to look around for 10 minutes, and then leave. All relative my young padwan.....

sry dude.....but your comparing miles to light years. the comparison doesn't amount to nothing.

Originally Posted by viet_jon

sry dude.....but your comparing miles to light years. the comparison doesn't amount to nothing.

To a bottom dwelling lobster, or such like, the journey to the surface would be lightyears. And the fact that the known 'Universe' to such a creature would be nothing more than a 100m radius. As I said it's all relative.

But the World's flat, right?

Originally Posted by goob

To a bottom dwelling lobster, or such like, the journey to the surface would be lightyears. And the fact that the known 'Universe' to such a creature would be nothing more than a 100m radius. As I said it's all relative.

But the World's flat, right?

yes it is.................here is proof.

what a bunch of morons!!

Originally Posted by viet_jon

yes it is.................here is proof.

what a bunch of morons!!

Like the avatar by the way.

Originally Posted by goob

Unless they are here already?

if they were, there could be only 2 scenario's.

1) we're not getting along - with the technology they would have to fly 30 million light years, we'd be toast by now.

2) we are getting along - they would atleast share a bit of their technology with us, and we too would be flying faster than the speed of light


since neither is the case.....no they're not here already.

Originally Posted by goob

Like the avatar by the way.

thnkx.....it's newly hi-jacked. Found it on a cell phone forum.

Originally Posted by viet_jon

if they were, there could be only 2 scenario's.

1) we're not getting along - with the technology they would have to fly 30 million light years, we'd be toast by now.

2) we are getting along - they would atleast share a bit of their technology with us, and we too would be flying faster than the speed of light


since neither is the case.....no they're not here already.

Unless, they are here observing. Kind of like how we observe ants, etc. in nature programs. They may not want to 'interfere' with our progress.
They may not think we are ready for direct contact, and who could blame them? We are by large still murdering each other, the world split into factions (countries), with by and large opposing ideologies. And imagine the widespread panic and distrust.

I was playing devil's advocate. I don't actually believe they are here!
Just opened minded enough not to write off anything. (I blame the drugs....)

Originally Posted by goob

I don't actually believe they are here!

Originally Posted by viet_jon

Have you ever been sitting in a room and a sun beam shines just right through the window and you can see all the dust and stuff in the air? I think thats kind of what these pictures remind me of, things we don't usually see unless there is different light or exposure...like the video said we didn't know what microbes looked like until we discovered the microscope. When people were told that there existed really tiny things not able to be seen with the naked eye they probably screamed conspiracy or he's a nutjob and other things too...

Originally Posted by viet_jon

How did you know about that?

Natural phenomena, debris, insects, stuff on the camera lens, light... I think all of these things can account for what you see in that video.

that's a bunch of bullshit.....

Signs was more convinsing.