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    Quote Originally Posted by Focus View Post
    This is the argument that disgusts me. People complain that they want the terrorism to stop, but they won't play a part in the solution. Not even the prevention.
    If I have to give up some minor details of my privately held PUBLIC life to help stop terrorist cells operating on U.S. soil, then so be it. If my surrender of information, over the years of my life, helps to save 1 life, then it was worth every bit of it. To put privately held PUBLIC information in front of life is selfish. The Patriot Act was designed to protect life, at the slight cost of minor privacies that we take for granted.

    We still retain our rights to freedom, and our rights to privacy. Looking into our phone calls is not discluded under that ammendment, and neither is looking into which books we check out. The government does not barge into your home without cause..... we still have our privacy. The Patriot Act is a minor price to pay to help ensure the safety of American lives.
    Well you can sell your freedom away for the illusion of safety, but I won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    Well you can sell your freedom away for the illusion of safety, but I won't.
    Exactly what I'm talking about - transfer the solution to others, you won't step up.

    The 911 attacks happened because America had no way of prevented such things. Planning on the terrorists part took preparation, preparation which would be picked up nowadays by the Patriot Act, or at least has a much better shot at obtaining.

    The only illusion I see here is the fear of government. Everyone seems to think the government is "out to get them". And the vast majority of these people have NOTHING to hide. The government employees could give two shits if you look at porn all day, or if you call your grandmother every day for hours. They aren't going to care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Focus View Post
    Exactly what I'm talking about - transfer the solution to others, you won't step up.

    The 911 attacks happened because America had no way of prevented such things. Planning on the terrorists part took preparation, preparation which would be picked up nowadays by the Patriot Act, or at least has a much better shot at obtaining.

    The only illusion I see here is the fear of government. Everyone seems to think the government is "out to get them". And the vast majority of these people have NOTHING to hide. The government employees could give two shits if you look at porn all day, or if you call your grandmother every day for hours. They aren't going to care.

    if the corporate world teaches us anything about men, it teaches us that men are greedy and selfish.

    take a sec...and be a little open minded for just a sec. Imagine if a big executive CEO is your government, and the company is your country.......... do you think this CEO gives two shits about his employees and their pensions? Or is it more probable that he cares more about how much money he makes at the end of the day?


    Politicians are businessman. They start for various reasons....but they all end up with one common goal.


    my .02 cents.

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    While "best" is impossible to measure, even if weren't I don't think i could believe that America is the best country in the world.

    I look around myself and, as a broad generalization, the people I see are angry, self-centered, inconsiderate, unintelligent, overweight, materialistic, and lazy. People don't understand that the Supreme Court has revoked their property rights because Tom Cruise was jumping up and down on a yellow couch at the time. People don't understand that gun control causes crime, and that Congress is about to reauthorize vast gun control, because Anna Nichole Smith died and her five bed-mates argued over her burial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Focus View Post
    Exactly what I'm talking about - transfer the solution to others, you won't step up.

    The 911 attacks happened because America had no way of prevented such things. Planning on the terrorists part took preparation, preparation which would be picked up nowadays by the Patriot Act, or at least has a much better shot at obtaining.

    The only illusion I see here is the fear of government. Everyone seems to think the government is "out to get them". And the vast majority of these people have NOTHING to hide. The government employees could give two shits if you look at porn all day, or if you call your grandmother every day for hours. They aren't going to care.


    Wrong. The Patriot Act does nothing to stop terrorism.
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    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


    Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
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    America is a wonderful country with a lot of opportunity. no doubt about it. I am from Poland, and sometimes people will ask me if they have running water, or if Poland is nothing but a bunch of farms and tiny villages, and things like that. While the economic situation is better in the states, assumptions about other countries being on a completely different level aggravate me. There are many countries in Europe, as well as Canada, and Austrailia that have the same freedom we do. I don't know if it's political intervention, but to say America is the best and to view other nations ad underdeveloped gets to me sometimes. To answere the question: I will say that America is best country in the world as far as opportunity, work, and economy goes, but it is does not have an undisputed superior quality of life over other nations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viet_jon View Post
    I'd like to take my stab at this.

    No one with a slight bit of education would tell you China is the best country. Living condition, freedom, death penalty.....to name a few are among the worst in the world.

    My guess is as good as any's.....

    but I think what that teacher was saying is China will be the next powerhouse country. Your brother is 10 years old, it's not uncommon for ten year olds to misunderstand what people tell them.
    I agree 100%, and for his brother not to understand this is pathetic.
    Quote Originally Posted by kbm8795 View Post
    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


    Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
    Total ownage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Focus View Post
    Exactly what I'm talking about - transfer the solution to others, you won't step up.

    The 911 attacks happened because America had no way of prevented such things. Planning on the terrorists part took preparation, preparation which would be picked up nowadays by the Patriot Act, or at least has a much better shot at obtaining.

    The only illusion I see here is the fear of government. Everyone seems to think the government is "out to get them". And the vast majority of these people have NOTHING to hide. The government employees could give two shits if you look at porn all day, or if you call your grandmother every day for hours. They aren't going to care.
    I don't think the government is out to get me. I just know that the government doesn't have my freedom and best interest at heart. The government is made up of career politicians who's only motivation is money and power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    I don't think the government is out to get me. I just know that the government doesn't have my freedom and best interest at heart. The government is made up of career politicians who's only motivation is money and power.
    I agree. Do you believe the war is for our freedom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    I don't think the government is out to get me. I just know that the government doesn't have my freedom and best interest at heart. The government is made up of career politicians who's only motivation is money and power.
    Their motivation goes directly against the majority of the population == they are at least out to get you, if only indirectly.
    Quote Originally Posted by kbm8795 View Post
    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


    Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
    Total ownage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
    Today I got home from school. and my little brother(10) told me that his teacher told him that America was not the best country. Then he goes on to say that China was the best and will stay the best for the next 100 years. I thought this was ridicoulous. I mean everyone is entitle to there own opinion, but he should not try to twist the minds of little children. He also talked badly about the war in Iraq(which I am not a huge fan of), but he should stil not try to do something like that.
    I am not sure I understand what your above comments are about.

    I don't think any "country" is the "best" in the world.

    But there are some nation-states that I'd prefer to live in than others: and I lived in 4 and travelled to more than 29.

    China?

    Iraq?

    No relation.

    I think your child is confused.


    Almost as confused as your Original Post (OP).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    Depends on where you live. If you live in a big city with multi cultural populations, that may be true. But there are many places in Rural america where people live and leave doors and windows unlocked even when not there with no worry about anyone stealing anything or any type of violent crime.
    That's true of any country... there is more crime in big cities than in the rural areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forum9351 View Post
    I agree. Do you believe the war is for our freedom?
    Of coarse not. It is for profit, pure and simple.
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