Thread: Odd question : Drugs or alcohol - which will do more damage?

Originally Posted by slip

As over partying as I am, there is a distinct possibility that I'm going to get very messy indeed on 5th May.

I don't do anything apart from eat/chill/train anymore, no drinking/smoking/anything. But.... This event may cause me to come out of retirement, and get totally sideways.

So my question is this: Does anyone know if there is a significant difference in the negative physical effects of a big night on the booze, or a tab of acid? Or is it a complete non issue, getting trashed is all the same......

im not really sure if this is fit for diet and nutrition forum.

maybe try general health.

If i were you i would stick to the alcohol and leave out the tab of acid/smokingcrack/shooting heroin or whatever other kinds of drugs you plan on using.

Although not everyone here will agree with me on this one.. but if it is one night and one night only, then i wouldnt really worry about what you drink/take and id just enjoy myself and have fun

Originally Posted by StanUk

Although not everyone here will agree with me on this one.. but if it is one night and one night only, then i wouldnt really worry about what you drink/take and id just enjoy myself and have fun

I guess i lift and excercise for overall health and drugs seem to be the opposite. I can not say i dont drink tho

Drinking has always rained me more than drugs. Some drugs helped my training. I could go to a buddies house and pass blunts around all night. The worse that could happen is I would eat too much and passout. Lawl, the next day I would be roaring to hit the gym.

Now on the other hand, waking up from alcohol sucks balls. I am dehydrated and usually have a head ache. I usually don't lift the day after a heavy night of drinking. That is why I don't drink much anymore. I might drink once in a two week period.

Now ecstacy, coke, or meth will dehydrate you also, and deplete those little neurotransmitters that allow you to feel good in the morning and helps with working out, so again, I usually can't workout after a night of doing any of those.

I have lifted fine after a night of tripping on shrooms, as long as I got in the bed at a decent hour. I will also probably get trashed after I finish finals this semester, but I think I will be sticking with the pot. Pot has never done me wrong.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Pot has never done me wrong.

I pretty much hate drinking.

BongRips for life.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Drinking has always rained me more than drugs. Some drugs helped my training. I could go to a buddies house and pass blunts around all night. The worse that could happen is I would eat too much and passout. Lawl, the next day I would be roaring to hit the gym.

Now on the other hand, waking up from alcohol sucks balls. I am dehydrated and usually have a head ache. I usually don't lift the day after a heavy night of drinking. That is why I don't drink much anymore. I might drink once in a two week period.

Now ecstacy, coke, or meth will dehydrate you also, and deplete those little neurotransmitters that allow you to feel good in the morning and helps with working out, so again, I usually can't workout after a night of doing any of those.

I have lifted fine after a night of tripping on shrooms, as long as I got in the bed at a decent hour. I will also probably get trashed after I finish finals this semester, but I think I will be sticking with the pot. Pot has never done me wrong.

Hahah everyone is against getting drunk....nice...that is rare huh.

Hey Kelju.
How do you feel the day after taking acid? I'm pretty sure I will be doing it my first time next week.

Originally Posted by Nate K

Hey Kelju.
How do you feel the day after taking acid? I'm pretty sure I will be doing it my first time next week.

It depends on what time of the day you take it. You're not gonna sleep on it, so really all it ever did to me was throw my sleep cycle off. There is no hangover that comes with it and as long as you're not tripping too hard to remember to drink and eat (been there many times), you'll feel fine.

Originally Posted by Nate K

Hey Kelju.
How do you feel the day after taking acid? I'm pretty sure I will be doing it my first time next week.

I felt like I had been mindfucked. It took me a good 2 days or so before I was right in the head again.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

It depends on what time of the day you take it. You're not gonna sleep on it, so really all it ever did to me was throw my sleep cycle off. There is no hangover that comes with it and as long as you're not tripping too hard to remember to drink and eat (been there many times), you'll feel fine.

Yeah, I like to trip during the day anyway.

If I end up doing any rec drugs I usually end up drinking too. Haha It's a vicious cycle! So usually I'll just stick to a couple vodka on the rocks once a week. Very rarely will I party like I use to.

It depends on the drug. See BBC NEWS | Health | Scientists want new drug rankings Alcohol is 5th most harmful out of the 20 listed.

Originally Posted by Nate K

Hey Kelju.
How do you feel the day after taking acid? I'm pretty sure I will be doing it my first time next week.

Make sure you have 8 hours free for this, cause that's how long the trip should last.
Stage 1 - Hightened feeling, confidence, wonderment, (it will feel like-)increased intelligence and mostly- laughing your ass off. Dur:2-4 hours
Stage 2 - Visual and auditory. The slightest thing will feel and look wonderful and amazing. Thought becomes amazing, you will make amazing breakthroughs in thinking. You will solve the world's problems......or at least you would have if you remembered them. Dur:2-3 hours
Stage 3 - Comedown. Not a crash, but a gradual fade away from the 'different' world/mindset you have been in.

Pointers: Avoid busy places. Especially bars. This can be fun, but people can also be very scary when on acid. Especially loud, aggresive drunk people.
You will get confused, but it can be funny. Try to avoid too much confusion, as it can also freak you out.
Do not take if you are in a bad mood/ sad. This can lead to the dreaded bad trip.
Alcohol is the best drug to 'cancel' a trip. But you will have to get drunk for it to work well enough. OJ can also help.
Let your mind take you where you wish. I've spent 4 hours before on a golf course in the middle of the night watching the ground ripple in waves.
Takes 1-1.5 hours to come on. Weed helps you too sleep afterwards.

Enjoy.

In anwser to the original question:

Do both. It's only one night, go wild, enjoy. Make up for it by eating clean etc, for the prior & following days.

both will do a lot of damage ...I think drugs will make more damage to your brain lol ......anyway just rest well on the next day and sleep a lot and eat well to recover from what you did whatever it was drugs or alchohol .....go toErowid .....I'd suggest that u stay away from drugs , go to this site and read about the effects of everything..

Originally Posted by assassin

both will do a lot of damage ...I think drugs will make more damage to your brain lol ......anyway just rest well on the next day and sleep a lot and eat well to recover from what you did whatever it was drugs or alchohol .....go toErowid .....I'd suggest that u stay away from drugs , go to this site and read about the effects of everything..

Neither does damage unless you let it.


Stay away from drugs if you have a weak mind. Otherwise drugs are great. Some of the most beautiful music, art, theater, and literature were created by people under the effects of drugs. My life has been exponentially better because of drugs. I can say that, and I haven't done any illegal drugs other than pot a few times over the last year.

Everything in life is safe in moderation. Just have some self discipline and a dash of common sense and you will be fine.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Neither does damage unless you let it.


Stay away from drugs if you have a weak mind. Otherwise drugs are great. Some of the most beautiful music, art, theater, and literature were created by people under the effects of drugs. My life has been exponentially better because of drugs. I can say that, and I haven't done any illegal drugs other than pot a few times over the last year.

Everything in life is safe in moderation. Just have some self discipline and a dash of common sense and you will be fine.

In the top 10 most true posts. If you can't handle them, stay away... if you have self control and know what moderation is, have some fun and experiment. I know substances have helped me get over creative blocks in the past and damn have I composed some crazy shit while under the influence. Just use moderation.

True that. They are bad for you if training is a big part of things, but same here, I've got my shit under control (most of the time) and have had the most amazing and outrageous fun times while totally off my tits.

Joint + amusement park rides (the big ones) = good times.

I've basically come to accept the fact that I'll get all excited about it, get the acid, then pull out at the last minute, and just have a few drinks. I'm just too old for that shit feeling the next day, and training is too important to me nowdays.

Ah the good old days. 5star hotel, ninja mask, business tie, underwear, covered in suds from the spa in our room. Hiding in the fridge, mission impossible through the lobby, DJ on the kitchen bench. Ah well, no such thing as a free lunch.

Originally Posted by slip

True that. They are bad for you if training is a big part of things, but same here, I've got my shit under control (most of the time) and have had the most amazing and outrageous fun times while totally off my tits.

Joint + amusement park rides (the big ones) = good times.

I've basically come to accept the fact that I'll get all excited about it, get the acid, then pull out at the last minute, and just have a few drinks. I'm just too old for that shit feeling the next day, and training is too important to me nowdays.

Ah the good old days. 5star hotel, ninja mask, business tie, underwear, covered in suds from the spa in our room. Hiding in the fridge, mission impossible through the lobby, DJ on the kitchen bench. Ah well, no such thing as a free lunch.

The most fun I've ever had at an amusement park was going to Wet-n-wild on shrooms. Going down a huge waterslide trippin face is without a doubt one of the coolest things I've ever experienced...

Originally Posted by ReproMan

The most fun I've ever had at an amusement park was going to Wet-n-wild on shrooms. Going down a huge waterslide trippin face is without a doubt one of the coolest things I've ever experienced...

That sounds awesome.

Mental note - must try this.

alcohol has alot of calories and are u talkin about tobacco,weed,or crack?

Originally Posted by Dynghetti

alcohol has alot of calories and are u talkin about tobacco,weed,or crack?

Originally Posted by Dynghetti

alcohol has alot of calories and are u talkin about tobacco,weed,or crack?

Yeah, but low carb crack is a nice alternative.

Originally Posted by Dynghetti

alcohol has alot of calories and are u talkin about tobacco,weed,or crack?

We are talking about all drugs. I haven't done heroin, because I refuse to inject anything into my veins on principle. That is where I draw the line. I haven't smoked crack because the cost/benefit is pathetic. Of all of the drugs in my life that I did, shrooms, pot, and LSD had the best cost/benefit ratio. Meth, alcohol, and ecstasy had the worst.

Alcohol is the worst drug. It's the only one that kills brain cells. Screws up the metabloism and messes with the kidneys and liver. Stick with LSD-25. Apart from having the lysergic blues the next day, it does no damage. And as long as the setting and people are right it should be a Blast! SOunds righteous, outside in the woods on a warm sunny spring day with some groovy folks, you can't ask for a better time. Enjoy!