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    Say Farewell to One of the few remaining Nisei Soldiers of WWII

    April 11, 2007 my girlfriends grandfather and my friend passed away in his sleep @ 89 after battling cancer for 4 years of which we had no knowledge of....

    He was one of the most generous and kind hearted men I ever met. He severly injured his back in Italy in 1944 while teaching a mountaineering course to newly arriving Japanese-American Soldiers fighting while their Japanese families were cooped up in little fenced cages not unlike the Jews were in Germany, yet they fought some of the hardest fights as the whitest American soldier did....Later in his life he would go on to become an Orchid Guru teaching hundreds of students how to grow and hybridize their own strain of orchids....his last years while bed-ridden I had the honor of taking care of him, from hand feeding him, lifting him out of bed, cleaning him after he soiled himself and comforting him at 3 or 4 or 5am in the morning after he'd have nightmares or wake up and not know where he was. I would sit next to his bed side and listen to him tell me stories just to keep him company.....then last Tuesday he swallowed wrong and started choking, my GF bent him forward and smacked his back until he had hacked everything out, but he asked her to call an ambulance because he was having a hard time breathing. The doctor said that cancer had invaded his entire right lung and his hard coughing may have ruptured it so it was collapsed. I saw him that night breathing heavily thru and oxygen mask, I touched his forehead and said goodbye and went home while my GF stayed to sleep with him in the hospital, about 5am the next morning he had past....

    One of the miraculous things is that an orchid he had hybridized in the name of his first wife Chieno, which hadn't bloomed in 10 years, bloomed that morning as if him and her had sent it as a message that they were together again in the land of the Spirits. My girlfriend had me take some photos of it and I enhanced one orchid and printed it so she can get a tattoo of it with her Grandpa/ma 's names below using some of his ashes in the ink..........

    Strange thing is that I have felt his loss harder than when I lost my own grandpa last year, I wasn't very close to him I guess and I had been her grandpa's caretaker for 2 years.....I suppose thats why...
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    Sorry for the loss man . hope all is well

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    sad, beautiful, amazing, and filled with hope. i'm sorry for your loss but i don't believe the orchid bloomed by chance either, not if it hadn't in 10 yrs. i think your friend's suffering is over and he's trying to ease yours.

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    Sounds like he was a good man. Sorry for your loss man.
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    sounds like a true hero. Must of had some cool stories to tell those camps they where forced to live in are one of our countries big mistakes.

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    Thank You so much guys, my GF is so distraught right now and I am trying to be her rock, but a feel like sandstone and as though I could crumble at any moment....
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    "while their Japanese families were cooped up in little fenced cages not unlike the Jews were in Germany"

    Are you on crack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post
    "while their Japanese families were cooped up in little fenced cages not unlike the Jews were in Germany"

    Are you on crack?
    No, he's not. Do some research jackass.


    Sad to hear about it. Sounds like he really lived life. What else can one say?

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    You have my condolences maniclion.

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    That sucks, I will smoke some pot to mourn your loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumby View Post
    No, he's not. Do some research jackass.


    Sad to hear about it. Sounds like he really lived life. What else can one say?
    I must have missed the day in American history class when the United States wiped out 6 million Japanese in the internment camps.

    No more off topic shit, but I don't think it's even remotely comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post
    I must have missed the day in American history class when the United States wiped out 6 million Japanese in the internment camps.

    No more off topic shit, but I don't think it's even remotely comparable.
    What's the matter with you?

    You ought to know better.

    maniclion said the japanese americans were "...cooped up in little fenced cages not unlike the Jews were in Germany...".

    Only you mention extermination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post
    "while their Japanese families were cooped up in little fenced cages not unlike the Jews were in Germany"

    Are you on crack?
    Let me asked you something, how many German-Americans were locked up in fenced yards during the Second World War????????

    Get off of your Michelle Malkin fantasy world.....I have sat and heard stories of how sad it was for these guys to be thousands of miles away doing extremely heroic actions while in the back of their mind they were wondering why they were defending a country who put their families into concentration camps like the enemy they were fighting , yet they did it and they did it well....

    Some of them decided to go to battle than be cooped up in those camps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Get off of your Michelle Malkin fantasy world
    I'm sorry for you loss, man, but comparing mistreatment to wholesale slaughter is the stuff of fantasy.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    I'm sorry for you loss, man, but comparing mistreatment to wholesale slaughter is the stuff of fantasy.
    In Germany the Jews were rounded up and held in Prison Camps; In America Japanese were rounded up and held in prison camps......no other comparison was made beyond that. Except for Brogers in your cup had to come in with his "Are you on crack" shit.....I didn't say Americans were slaughtering Japanese like the Jews, but there was a high level of bigotry and violations of American Freedoms yet their sons went to both theaters of the War and did their damndest even though their own country had treated their own like cattle in a pen....
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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post
    I must have missed the day in American history class when the United States wiped out 6 million Japanese in the internment camps.

    No more off topic shit, but I don't think it's even remotely comparable.
    Do you mind taking a hike out of this thread. Umkay? Thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    In Germany the Jews were rounded up and held in Prison Camps; In America Japanese were rounded up and held in prison camps......no other comparison was made beyond that. Except for Brogers in your cup had to come in with his "Are you on crack" shit.....I didn't say Americans were slaughtering Japanese like the Jews, but there was a high level of bigotry and violations of American Freedoms yet their sons went to both theaters of the War and did their damndest even though their own country had treated their own like cattle in a pen....
    I knew exactly what you meant. You were completely within your rights to draw the similarities.

    Allthough I can see other's point where they take exception to the United States being compared to the actions of a totalitarian dictatorship.

    Sadly, it is a huge stain on the tapestry of American Liberty that our reaction after Pearl Harbor was to literally imprison the Japanese citizens for fear they might be collaborating with the enemy.

    Still brave men, like your gf's Grandfather faced the scrutiny of America's fear and skepticism and helped us defeat the enemy despite the prejudice he faced from the very people he sought to protect and defend.

    Sorry for your loss. If it were my honor to do so I'd be proud to present the flag to her family.

    Sadly, I have that distinct honor tomorrow as part of a color guard ceremony for a 1st Lieutenant who recently died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Let me asked you something, how many German-Americans were locked up in fenced yards during the Second World War????????

    Get off of your Michelle Malkin fantasy world.....I have sat and heard stories of how sad it was for these guys to be thousands of miles away doing extremely heroic actions while in the back of their mind they were wondering why they were defending a country who put their families into concentration camps like the enemy they were fighting , yet they did it and they did it well....

    Some of them decided to go to battle than be cooped up in those camps...
    I don't condone what happened, and the Japanese-Americans who served in WWII did so honorably. But, there is NO comparison whatsoever to how the Japanese were treated here and how the Jews were treated by the Germans.

    What does Michelle Malkin have to do with this? Did she write a column on it or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post
    I don't condone what happened, and the Japanese-Americans who served in WWII did so honorably. But, there is NO comparison whatsoever to how the Japanese were treated here and how the Jews were treated by the Germans.

    What does Michelle Malkin have to do with this? Did she write a column on it or something?
    I never meant to compare the brutality, just the irony of predjudice on both fronts....

    Malkin said that the Japanese deserved to be put in camps because people of their race in a totally different country were fighting us, yet when confronted with why all American-Germans/Italians weren't confined nor the Japanese who outnumbered everyone in Hawaii were as subjected to that complete theft of freedom she falters....


    Again I only compared the predjudices, not the genocide....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witmaster View Post
    I knew exactly what you meant. You were completely within your rights to draw the similarities.

    Allthough I can see other's point where they take exception to the United States being compared to the actions of a totalitarian dictatorship.

    Sadly, it is a huge stain on the tapestry of American Liberty that our reaction after Pearl Harbor was to literally imprison the Japanese citizens for fear they might be collaborating with the enemy.

    Still brave men, like your gf's Grandfather faced the scrutiny of America's fear and skepticism and helped us defeat the enemy despite the prejudice he faced from the very people he sought to protect and defend.

    Sorry for your loss. If it were my honor to do so I'd be proud to present the flag to her family.

    Sadly, I have that distinct honor tomorrow as part of a color guard ceremony for a 1st Lieutenant who recently died.
    Thank You Wit, there will be a flag ceremony for him and much consumption of beer since it was one of his passions.....

    I plan on volunteering to help out many of the WWII vets who are now in their twilight years, I feel it's what I can do to show my appreciation of what they did to preserve the Freedoms we hold today, and the way they helped make America Number 1 after we were nearly a third world country after the depression.... I think all of you should at least pay a visit to a vet who has probably been abandoned in some Retirement home. After waking many morns at 3 AM to help calm Robert after he'd have war nightmares I can only imagine how frightful it must be for those lonely heroes stashed away in a Nursing Home alone with no one to tell them how much they are appreciated....
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    I bid the farewell, till we meet again when I get for it's now time for me to make my escape from this place they call work......
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    I never meant to compare the brutality, just the irony of predjudice on both fronts....
    But the end result was far different. The Japanese lost their houses, the Jes lost their lives. I get where you're coming from, but it wasn't quite the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Malkin said that the Japanese deserved to be put in camps because people of their race in a totally different country were fighting us, yet when confronted with why all American-Germans/Italians weren't confined nor the Japanese who outnumbered everyone in Hawaii were as subjected to that complete theft of freedom she falters....


    Again I only compared the predjudices, not the genocide....
    I am part Jewish....
    The only reason that the Japanese were rounded up and not the Germans was because of ease of identification.

    And you're wrong if you think that Germans weren't discriminated against during WW2.
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    Ok from here on out just say your salutes to a fine soldier and great loving, give you the shirt off his back man who fought hard to save the demise of the Jewish people and held strong patriotism for a country that put his family on lockdown at the same time....

    Thank You All....
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Ok from here on out just say your salutes to a fine soldier and great loving, give you the shirt off his back man who fought hard to save the demise of the Jewish people and held strong patriotism for a country that put his family on lockdown at the same time....

    Thank You All....
    Damn straight.

    Don't think for a second that I thought nothing but the best of a man who risked his life to defend my freedom.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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    You know I've been grieving so much that I didn't sleep until last night and that was on my thrown in my study, even when i take like three Klonopin the psychologist gave me I just feel a little happier but they don't knock me out like he said 1 would.....I never imagined I could ever miss someone who wasn't blood related to me.....
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    Hey, really good people are rare, and when they're gone, you're supposed to miss them badly.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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