Doublebase

I want to know why we have different religions. Where, how and why they were started. What the differences are. I would like to find a book that will explain this to me. Any ideas? I should start reading the bible.

BoneCrusher

Are you looking for something Christian based or non-biased by any religious affiliations?

Doublebase

I think non-biased would be better.

Little Wing

i have a pdf of these if you're interested.

Little Wing

i also have the satanic bible and an extensive collection of occult and witchcraft books.

NordicNacho

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ReproMan

Come out with it, what did you do?

Did you kill someone again?

Doublebase

No acutally I just finished watching "The Passion of Christ". It got me thinking.

ReproMan

Yeah, it'll do that.

Little Wing

The Rape of Nanking

this will make you think too n you can watch it online.

Big Smoothy

The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, is a good start.

maniclion

The Tibetan Book of the Dead - Book I

I find the Tibetan Book of the Dead to be one of the most fascinating works of Religious text. It is far beyond it's time in knowledge of the physical universe and the fact that a person who dies can still hear for several minutes after their last breath...

It talks about guiding the dead through levels of a subconscious like hell, which would be like your last dream before your soul leaves your body.....it is also amazing how it touches on reincarnation which goes with the law of physics that matter/energy can neither be created nor destroyed so the being that was you must continue on to somewhere and something else....with your mind activity being electrical like activity that can't just can't stop it must transfer somehow, possibly on some kind of energy form/channel that we are not consciously aware of yet know or have a feeling is there....

BoneCrusher

You are selecting a long road to travel. Christians of today will claim to know the bible, yet really are clueless about the truth of its evolution from a collection of scrolls being selected and rejected and formed into what became the bible. They really will not have an honest answer about how it was translated into English, the King James version, or what motivated that translation in the first place. You are in for one serious amount of hard effort to get under the popular bullshit to the truth lies beneath ...

If you're serious about your desire to know and will keep the thread alive I'll run with you here but I'm not wanting to waste my time on a flight of fancy. I takes a lot of effort to sort the reality from the desired or manipulated versions of religious history. I had a shitload of stuff from the college days so I can look around the net for stuff ... my college days were back in the time when DOS was how we got around.

The first thing to get acquainted with might be the canonization of the bible. You can kinda reverse engineer contemporary Christianity from that point in history IF you get a solid understanding of how the Bible was created exclusive of what the Vatican and current Christian sectarianists such as the Baptists or the Mormons will throw at you.

Islam is much easier since it came later and has been mostly unchanged since the days of Mohammad.

Judaism is much more complex because it evolved from the centuries before Christ. It makes it hard to deal with.

Witchblade

On the origin of species by Charles Darwin

But the best selling fiction book of all time is still the Bible, though I personally prefer Spiderman.

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maniclion

Then you can go way way way back to Mazdayasna, orthe Great-Great-Great Grandfather of Judaism, the Great-Great-Great-Great Grandfather of Christianity and the Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandfather of Islam.........Of which all 3 are just more and more bastardized forms of...And which we can witness how after being spread so thin by sect after sect, these things lose way to newer forms of religion all trying to put some new Inventor as the greatest name in each proving that the invention of these are all about the Ego of man and his attempt to live forever through legend.....Even the Buddhists who try to evade the ego are tugged into it's trap....

BoytonHeavy

I recommend readin the Bible
God bless

bio-chem

i would have to disagree with your assesment of most Christians

DontStop

The Satanic Verses.

You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

Brachiisaurus

Damn you're awesome.

BoytonHeavy

Let me guess, you are Satanic..Right?

BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by bio-chem i would have to disagree with your assesment of most Christians

After 47 years of living in a country proud of its Christian culture I would have to agree to disagree. Most bible thumping Christians left to their own knowledge with no support from google would be unable to name all the books of the bible let alone the dates of the various events that caused it to exist.

You can disagree with my assessment all day long ... but go out into the street and see how you do with that mindset. Ask people at random ... people who look like intelligent Americans of a solid Christian origin ... the names of the books of the bible. Ask when it was written, or when it was translated to the English language. Ask why? None will know the answer to these few basic important questions or even half of them.

I'm not doubting their faith, just their knowledge of WHY they have that faith and how the religion they have that faith in came to be.

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Originally Posted by Manic Then you can go way way way back to Mazdayasna, orthe Great-Great-Great Grandfather of Judaism, the Great-Great-Great-Great Grandfather of Christianity and the Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandfather of Islam.........Of which all 3 are just more and more bastardized forms of...And which we can witness how after being spread so thin by sect after sect, these things lose way to newer forms of religion all trying to put some new Inventor as the greatest name in each proving that the invention of these are all about the Ego of man and his attempt to live forever through legend.....Even the Buddhists who try to evade the ego are tugged into it's trap....

The origin of God as the Christians see him springs from their faith in him. He exists and told us of Himself through the bible. You suggest to a God fearing Christian that their God evolved from the Zarathushtran concepts of monotheism and either his eyes will glaze over in impatient tolerance, or he'll get red faced and call you a heretic.

DontStop

No, I'm Baptist.

You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

Doublebase

I've been doing some research. I want to write a little about what I learned and make sure its correct.

Judiasm is the belief in the most ancient writings of the bible. They believe in God. Where as Christians believe in Jesus. In the New Testament. That Jesus died for our sins.
I also read about Martin Luther. He challenged the popes authority and believes that salvation can only be obtained through faith in Jesus. I was brought up Luthern. Like most children we just go to Church. We don't really know much about our religion. The origin or belief. This is what I want to know. I found out that Martin Luther was a German. He translated the new testament into German. He also wrote bad about the Jews. He said their homes should be burned as well as their churches. Am I suppossed to believe that because I read it in a paragraph on wikipedia? Do the Jews deserve what he said because of what they did to Jesus? Jesus forgave the Jews so why couldn't Martin Luther? A man who believe in Jesus Christ and worshipped him. I need to read more. There is so much to learn.

KelJu

Grab a book written by David Hawkins.
Veritas Publishing

He condenses a lot of the eastern Buddhist philosophies into something a beginner could understand. I am just now getting into some of his stuff, and it is changing the way I think.

The Monkey Man

"You cant run a country by a book of religion
Not by a heap, or a lump, or a smidgeon, of foolish rules of ancient date.
Designed to make you all feel great,
while you fold, spindle, and mutilate,
those unbelievers from a neighboring state"

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KelJu

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