Thread: Going back to school...

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Bingo. And thats what I am hoping for!

waht do you mean taht is what you are hoping for?

you are hoping for a shortage of trainers? Because if so.....it is never going to happen! It will be years (if it even ever happens) that they make it a degree profession.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I am being serious. My town isnt small, but it isnt big. And take "Terry" for example. This asshole is 50-60 years old, possibly older, with dyed hair and natural, but I suppose fit physique for his age.

He wears bicycle shorts to work and he drives a harley and a corvette.

Hes got loads of 40+ year old women clients. Hes a good person to talk to fo r the women, but when it comes to fitness? He fails miserably. Ive never seen so much bad form in my life with ANY trainer. Rounded back during deadlifts, no suffiencient rest periods, heel coming off the ground during squats (not going down low enough), talking with other people while clients are doing movements, etc.

If this guy had to get a degree or keep up with shit like NASM requires, hed be out of the job.

As lousy as I know this guy is, HE HAS CLIENTS! Its all about bullshit it seems. And if I argue with him, making sense or not, because of popular opinion, I look the asshole.

that is the nature of the business! if you can talk smooth and sell well, you will have clients, whether you know anything or not.

Originally Posted by P-funk

a serious shortage means more quality trainers though.

I do agree with that.

Thats exactly my point. A quality trainer is someone that goes through the required steps and then some.

Its not fair that someone like me that has gone through a legitamate certification, aiming to go to get a degree in a related field, and more to the point, come onto here and ask questions.

P knows that even after I got certified, I didnt run out and get clients right away. I was still very unsure about a few things. Hell, I still ask questions from simple matters to complicated bullshit.

And then you got a guy named "Terry." This asshole runs the game, I know it, I understand how hes doing it too. However, someone like me gets overshot because I dont have the experience that he has.

This guy couldve just gotten a certification, had it expire, and just kept going because people request his name. The one thing I can see that he does is talk. This is like a much cheaper therapy session. I hear mid life wives talking about their unhappy lives, kids, husbands, all while theyre doing lunges with dangerous form.

Its this sort of thing that makes me wonder if I should sell what sells and leave out all the hard work.

Originally Posted by P-funk

waht do you mean taht is what you are hoping for?

you are hoping for a shortage of trainers? Because if so.....it is never going to happen! It will be years (if it even ever happens) that they make it a degree profession.

I know! And I hate it! Call this a vent!

All I can hope is that all the Terrys in my local area get poisoned from using too much hair dye and make up. YES HE WEARS MAKE UP.

Not to mention a shortage of trainers, quality trainers at that, can make a lot more money.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I know! And I hate it! Call this a vent!

All I can hope is that all the Terrys in my local area get poisoned from using too much hair dye and make up. YES HE WEARS MAKE UP.

Not to mention a shortage of trainers, quality trainers at that, can make a lot more money.

Lol, he actually introduced himself to me after he saw me bench on Wednesday. Called me "strongman." What a douche.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Lol, he actually introduced himself to me after he saw me bench on Wednesday. Called me "strongman." What a douche.

Ill fucking kill him

my son has an occupational therapist that comes to our home and works with him. Ty is only 9 but he's really smart and the guy not only teaches him about what they are doing physically but the science behind it too, what part of the brain is involved in the movements etc. if i thought this guy just took an online course or something he wouldn't have my son for a client. it is a lot easier to have faith in a person that you see has learned his craft inside and out n is not just a hack.

Originally Posted by P-funk

a serious shortage means more quality trainers though.

And better pay.

Training is about selling until you train. No trainer will hold a client if he doesn't produce results.

See thats what I do. I instruct as I train. All in all, your clients shouldnt be around that long if you instruct well. They can manage to eventually train themselves after acquiring the knowledge to do so. The only clients I can see that are always coming back are the ones that wont work out unless they have someone there to ALWAYS motivate them. Nothing wrong with that though.

Yesterday..no 2 days ago, I was watching these 2 older guys (50s) talking with a respected trainer. I couldnt hear what they were saying but when they were done, they went to the squat rack. They were doing heavier weight than I thought they should do and they ended up talking to one another about how they were squatting. I wanted to chime in so badly and tell them to NOT bow their knees out. They were actually talking about deliberatley bowing the knees for a better ROM.

Anyway, later on I was working out in a different section next to the trainer. One of the 2 men came over to him and asked him if they had gotten it right with the form. "No, your knees should go over your toes"

I felt pretty good to know that I was in sync with this guy. Hes no Terry.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Not to mention a shortage of trainers, quality trainers at that, can make a lot more money.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

And better pay.

Training is about selling until you train. No trainer will hold a client if he doesn't produce results.

Ah well.

Akira, i hope you steal all of terry's clients.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

my son has an occupational therapist that comes to our home and works with him. Ty is only 9 but he's really smart and the guy not only teaches him about what they are doing physically but the science behind it too, what part of the brain is involved in the movements etc. if i thought this guy just took an online course or something he wouldn't have my son for a client. it is a lot easier to have faith in a person that you see has learned his craft inside and out n is not just a hack.

yea, but an occupation therapist is totally different than a trainer! That is a pretty extensive degree. It is an interesting profession. You need to have a lot of patience to be an occupational therapist (depending on what you specialize in).

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Akira, i hope you steal all of terry's clients.

Unfortunately I think Terry gives them something AKIRA isn't willing to if ya know what I mean...

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Unfortunately I think Terry gives them something AKIRA isn't willing to if ya know what I mean...

haha.