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Old 07-14-2007, 06:32 PM   #1
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Angry College Orientation & Interest in Kinesisiology

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Well I went to my UF orientation yesterday and was hoping to talk to the advisor of the Human Health & Performance college. After I signed up for some theater classes (current major), I raced over to the "Florida Gym."

I was downstaris with my family asking this lady where I can find the advisor.
"Shes upstairs with the group."
I go up the elevator and ask some kid behind a desk where she/he is..
"The group is done, she went back downstairs."
So I go back to the elevator and when the elevator door opens, the first lady I spoke to was there along with this Keebler elf looking woman. The elf scurried passed us and at the same time, the lady in the elevator (the advisor's assistant) said "thats her right there." So I said "excuse me.." with a smile and my arm out as if I am needing some help. She doesnt turn around at all and keeps walking.

"Thats how advisors are when theyre in the hallway with kids, they always try to stop them.." I said I needed to speak with her for 10 min and ask some questions about changing my major.
"We can schedule an appointment." For 10 minutes? I live 3 hours away, so there had to be some leadway here, I mean, its orientation day! She suggested that we can wait for her in the office so we did.

The advisor finally walks to her office where we waited outside. I introduced myself and told her that I was extremely interested in the Kinesisi. ..you know what it is.

"Transfer students cant be admitted into this major."

Why not?

"Were at full capacity."

Ok, umm...well how about in a semester or two?


"No, only freshmen can enter into Kinesi. Transfer students cannot."

Cuz theyre full? What a kid drops out? I will take any prerequisites that I need.

"Theres no way you can get in."

Ever?

"Ever"

x 10. I am really holding back some extreme anger. My ears are on fire, my back is drenched with sweat, but I remained calm.
Ok, well is there another major I can shoot for that has similiar classes? Id like to run a double major or minor in this sort of field cuz I am a personal trainer and Id really like to lean more about this now that I am admitted to the school.

"Theres simply nothing that can be done. Try another University."


What?! So I cant take CLASSES?! I had to seek a second opinion so I went to go see a general advisor.

This advisor was more helpful, but she said the same things really. I asked if I can just take the god damn courses and fuck the degree, I just really wanted to go to school for this.

"Because youre flagged as a Fine Arts major, you cant just register for classes. If you dont like the major youre in now, you might want to try something else."

No way, no how. I dont mean to be stubborn, but I am 27 living at home with mom. I need to go back to school! My family just said to take the theater classes, get the BA and say fuck it. "The degree is all what employers care about." I do agree, but I still wanted to take classes for a subject I am passionate for...

That Keebler elf was extremely unhelpful. I was even trying to find out if say, Physical Education, would be sufficient just to get into those classes. I was completely deprived...and what was that shit abotu transer students?
So if I went to Penn State for this shit, wanted to transfer to UF, I wont be admitted into Kinesi. college cuz I wasnt a Freshman doing it?

All I wanted was a suggestion on another couple of courses I could take. I mean, how does a fucking student change majors then? How do you know what to change to if you cant explore? I could take a coupel exercise courses and say 'fuck it, this is too hard, it isnt me, I am gonna try law now' I mean, its all money anyway...the school is a business.

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this happens all the time at huge universities. They don't give a shit about the individual. too bad u didn't find that out before transferring



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That really sucks. Schools just a business, same shit happened to me when i was trying to get a second major.



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this happens all the time at huge universities. They don't give a shit about the individual. too bad u didn't find that out before transferring
Thats what my lady friend said to. "They dont give a shit about you cuz they have so many other people lined up to pay money."


It does suck. If anything, I was hoping maybe it would just open other doors. I mean this cunty elf didnt even sit down and lookat my transcripts. For all she knew, I coulda been a football player. It was just no no no.



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Does UCF or USF have kinesisiology major, maybe you can transfer there. It would be kinda shitty to transfer again.



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Hmmm, I go to a huge university and they are pretty hospitipal to individuals actually, just alot of beurocracy. If you are willing to deal with that, then you can get alot done. Maybe it's their New England charm.

By the way, that sucks.

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Hmmm, I go to a huge university and they are pretty hospitipal to individuals actually, just alot of beurocracy. If you are willing to deal with that, then you can get alot done. Maybe it's their New England charm.

By the way, that sucks.

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Does UCF or USF have kinesisiology major, maybe you can transfer there. It would be kinda shitty to transfer again.
If I were to transfer, I would do it after this semester. This is just a time in my life when I need to move out and move on. It isnt just for going back to school, but thats the primary focus.



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yes, it is my major.



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"Transfer students cant be admitted into this major."

Why not?

"Were at full capacity."

Ok, umm...well how about in a semester or two?


"No, only freshmen can enter into Kinesi. Transfer students cannot."

Cuz theyre full? What a kid drops out? I will take any prerequisites that I need.

"Theres no way you can get in."

Ever?

"Ever"

x 10.
Did they elaborate on the why part a bit more? The more info you can give, the better. Does it have anything to do with priority registration for incoming freshman (perhaps first registered) over transfer students? Priority usually goes to whomever is senior or first come first serve basis. Did you register late? It almost sounds like this is a time-frame issue; that the elf is telling you you won't be able to register for these course this semester. Is this the case or are you certain the elf meant "never ever?"

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"Because youre flagged as a Fine Arts major, you cant just register for classes. If you dont like the major youre in now, you might want to try something else."
Being someone who has changed their major a handful of times, I've been given this type of runaround before too. "You are unable to register for this course because your major is listed in a different department. Only health and human studies majors can add this course." Usually what that means is that you need to go to someone to receive special permission to add the course. There are different advisors in every department, so you may need to go directly to them to get special permission (at my university it requires going to your advisor and the other department's advisor to get a special code to enter online during registration, or they can grant the special permission on the computer for you). Other times, it may require that you change your major entirely. At my university (The University of Iowa), and I believe this is the same at most big, public universities, you can declare a double major. Declare one of your departments as this major, just so you can get into the registration. You can change it later. I have also had to show up to the course I want to add on the first day and get the professor's permission on an add slip. Really, the people you want to kiss ass to are the advisors, because they are the d-bags wielding a lot of the power.

Make sure you take the courses you want to take. I know a lot of people think just getting the degree is the most important part, and it is, to an extent. The type of degree can get you in the door a lot faster, and I've already seen it work both ways firsthand. A lot of work experience will probably do more (which is sounds like you have, so that is good).
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Did they elaborate on the why part a bit more? The more info you can give, the better. Does it have anything to do with priority registration for incoming freshman (perhaps first registered) over transfer students? Priority usually goes to whomever is senior or first come first serve basis. Did you register late? It almost sounds like this is a time-frame issue; that the elf is telling you you won't be able to register for these course this semester. Is this the case or are you certain the elf meant "never ever?"
What I quoted was exactly what she said. I said ever and she agreed. Like I said, something didnt sound right. Was she a bitch cuz I was waiting for her and didnt make an appointment? Really I have no idea. I thought I was pretty patient and lenient with what I was asking for...I was willing ot change to a different major that had those classes, so not only was I not allowed into Kine. but all of them in this particuliar college. Hence the x 10. Even if I was registering late, I specifically asked if I could down the road. Thats where the "ever" comment came up.


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Being someone who has changed their major a handful of times, I've been given this type of runaround before too. "You are unable to register for this course because your major is listed in a different department. Only health and human studies majors can add this course." Usually what that means is that you need to go to someone to receive special permission to add the course. There are different advisors in every department, so you may need to go directly to them to get special permission (at my university it requires going to your advisor and the other department's advisor to get a special code to enter online during registration, or they can grant the special permission on the computer for you). Other times, it may require that you change your major entirely. At my university (The University of Iowa), and I believe this is the same at most big, public universities, you can declare a double major. Declare one of your departments as this major, just so you can get into the registration. You can change it later. I have also had to show up to the course I want to add on the first day and get the professor's permission on an add slip. Really, the people you want to kiss ass to are the advisors, because they are the d-bags wielding a lot of the power.

Make sure you take the courses you want to take. I know a lot of people think just getting the degree is the most important part, and it is, to an extent. The type of degree can get you in the door a lot faster, and I've already seen it work both ways firsthand. A lot of work experience will probably do more (which is sounds like you have, so that is good).
Now see, my theater advisor said all that. He was helpful unlike the elf. He said hed sign something and shed sign something and wha-la, Ive got a new major or a double major.

Because this advisor is at the entire Human Health & Performace, I feel like I am out of luck. Is there no one else I can speak to? I felt like filing some sort of complaint on this woman. I mean, she didnt even know what I was...she didnt know my major, she just knew that I was a transfer student. And I was barred from teh college.

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I went to UCF, I don't think they have a Kinesisiology program (I could be wrong because I majored in Mass Communications). I say give it a try though, UCF isn't a bad place at all.



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At this point, I coudlnt transfer anywhere for fall semester. Like I said, I need to get to college for more than one reason.



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sorry to hear that man, but I am kinda lost...you can't transfer BECAUSE you are in arts? I can't see how you wouldn't be able to take some first year courses that lines you up for kinesiology while still doing arts and then switch over into the program later on, say 2nd year...I did something similar just this year, I was doing engineering realized it was definitely not for me, I took some geology courses WHILE I was still in the bachelor of engineering program and then this past 2nd semester switched over to sciences and now this coming fall I am enrolled in geology... I dunno what the college is like in the US though, just a thought of something you MIGHT be able to do.



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At this point I don't understand why you are confining yourself to UF. There is no sense in going to a college that is "fun," you won't have time for it. Working a full time job and going to school full time is a tough proposition so if I were you, I would do a little more research and find a college that offers the program you are interested in. Especially if you are going to be paying your own bills, say goodbye to your social life for the next few years. (Unless you're on the 6 year plan like Andrew)

If you are just going to UF to "get out of town," I think you are making a huge mistake. Find a university that offers the classes you want to take and go there. You've waited this long to get back to school so why rush it now? The reality of it all is most people don't get to the college they want to go to, or even study what they want to. These people often end up "settling" and wishing they never had.

I was kinda shocked when you told me that you didn't even know if you could take the degree you wanted to yet you already decided to move there. I'm gonna be blunt, I don't think you know what you are getting into. The grass is most certainly not greener on the other side, I've found that out on more than a few occasions. Just because Gainsville isn't Stuart, doesn't make it better and certainly doesn't make it "right" for you.

Personally, I would look into FAU, UCF, USF and see if they offer the program you want to take. In my eyes FAU would be fucking perfect, you could commute there. But I understand that you are just trying to get out of town, so that's not appealing to you. Just remember that college is about more than just getting out and moving on, it's a huge responsibility. Choose wisely.



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At this point I don't understand why you are confining yourself to UF. There is no sense in going to a college that is "fun," you won't have time for it. Working a full time job and going to school full time is a tough proposition so if I were you, I would do a little more research and find a college that offers the program you are interested in. Especially if you are going to be paying your own bills, say goodbye to your social life for the next few years. (Unless you're on the 6 year plan like Andrew)

If you are just going to UF to "get out of town," I think you are making a huge mistake. Find a university that offers the classes you want to take and go there. You've waited this long to get back to school so why rush it now? The reality of it all is most people don't get to the college they want to go to, or even study what they want to. These people often end up "settling" and wishing they never had.

I was kinda shocked when you told me that you didn't even know if you could take the degree you wanted to yet you already decided to move there. I'm gonna be blunt, I don't think you know what you are getting into. The grass is most certainly not greener on the other side, I've found that out on more than a few occasions. Just because Gainsville isn't Stuart, doesn't make it better and certainly doesn't make it "right" for you.

Personally, I would look into FAU, UCF, USF and see if they offer the program you want to take. In my eyes FAU would be fucking perfect, you could commute there. But I understand that you are just trying to get out of town, so that's not appealing to you. Just remember that college is about more than just getting out and moving on, it's a huge responsibility. Choose wisely.


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Sounds to me that UF isn't the right choice for you as a school. If they won't let you grab a minor in Kinesisiology, fuck'em. Go somewhere else, and pick up the minor you want.

USA has jerked me around for years, also. I transfered in as an engineering student, and lost two years because South admits all students into its computer science program as freshman. You can work through the system faster if you already have usable credits, because it allows you to focus only on computer science classes, but it still takes a while due to prerequisites.

I just went to a senior project meeting Wednesday, and there are only 7 of us graduating in the CS department. only 7% of students who start the program finish it. There is a 60% dropout rate just in the first year alone.

School sucks, but it prepares you for the real world, in my opinion. It teaches you to deal with senseless bullshit. Just keep at it, and grab that piece of paper with your name on it.



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Good Advice!

Sounds to me that UF isn't the right choice for you as a school. If they won't let you grab a minor in Kinesisiology, fuck'em. Go somewhere else, and pick up the minor you want.

USA has jerked me around for years, also. I transfered in as an engineering student, and lost two years because South admits all students into its computer science program as freshman. You can work through the system faster if you already have usable credits, because it allows you to focus only on computer science classes, but it still takes a while due to prerequisites.

I just went to a senior project meeting Wednesday, and there are only 7 of us graduating in the CS department. only 7% of students who start the program finish it. There is a 60% dropout rate just in the first year alone.

School sucks, but it prepares you for the real world, in my opinion. It teaches you to deal with senseless bullshit. Just keep at it, and grab that piece of paper with your name on it.
Everyone that has gone and come back to the real world has said that paper is all that matters. I agree 100 %.

I believe that theres more than one way to skin a cat and this elf appears to be the only obstacle. Ill find a way.

I dont expect this thread to solve my problems, unless someone knows of a loophole, so its kinda just a rant.

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sorry to hear that man, but I am kinda lost...you can't transfer BECAUSE you are in arts? I can't see how you wouldn't be able to take some first year courses that lines you up for kinesiology while still doing arts and then switch over into the program later on, say 2nd year...I did something similar just this year, I was doing engineering realized it was definitely not for me, I took some geology courses WHILE I was still in the bachelor of engineering program and then this past 2nd semester switched over to sciences and now this coming fall I am enrolled in geology... I dunno what the college is like in the US though, just a thought of something you MIGHT be able to do.
This is precisely my plan, whether it be this major or something else.



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Sounds to me that UF isn't the right choice for you as a school. If they won't let you grab a minor in Kinesisiology, fuck'em. Go somewhere else, and pick up the minor you want.

USA has jerked me around for years, also. I transfered in as an engineering student, and lost two years because South admits all students into its computer science program as freshman. You can work through the system faster if you already have usable credits, because it allows you to focus only on computer science classes, but it still takes a while due to prerequisites.

I just went to a senior project meeting Wednesday, and there are only 7 of us graduating in the CS department. only 7% of students who start the program finish it. There is a 60% dropout rate just in the first year alone.

School sucks, but it prepares you for the real world, in my opinion. It teaches you to deal with senseless bullshit. Just keep at it, and grab that piece of paper with your name on it.
School does not really prepare you for the outside world. I have to disagree with you there Kelju. A lot of the shit taught at school will NEVER be of use in the real world. (This may be different in vocations where knowledge/practical application is key like Computing or Kinesiology )

But in the likes of Business degrees, half the shit taught are the latest 'buzzwords' taught by lecturers who failed in the outside world and know theory only. Every former student I know (outside of tech- sujects) agree- the real world is far different from the bullshit taught at University.



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Because this advisor is at the entire Human Health & Performace, I feel like I am out of luck. Is there no one else I can speak to? I felt like filing some sort of complaint on this woman. I mean, she didnt even know what I was...she didnt know my major, she just knew that I was a transfer student. And I was barred from teh college.

Damn, if I was only black.
You can always speak to someone else. But I would suggest making an appointment with the elf and making sure you keep your cool. "I know when we talked the other day you were in a rush; you are probably having to deal with a lot of new students around this time; must be rough" (<-- something lame like that). Explain what you're looking to do and hopefully she will do her job this time. If that doesn't work, talk to an advisor from a different department that you haven't spoken to and explain the situation with the elf. Hopefully, that advisor will know the elf is full of shit and will be able to make some calls to help you out. Around here, transfer students still get the priority over the freshman. It sounds like this is a far drive, so try to make multiple appointments before you drive out.
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School does not really prepare you for the outside world. I have to disagree with you there Kelju. A lot of the shit taught at school will NEVER be of use in the real world. (This may be different in vocations where knowledge/practical application is key like Computing or Kinesiology )

But in the likes of Business degrees, half the shit taught are the latest 'buzzwords' taught by lecturers who failed in the outside world and know theory only. Every former student I know (outside of tech- sujects) agree- the real world is far different from the bullshit taught at University.
That's why work experience is so important. Looking back, I had always wished I had decided to work better jobs instead of "cash on the fly" jobs like roofing and landscaping which no employer gives a shit about. But I do agree with Kelju that working a real job has a lot to do with putting up with shit and kissing ass (aka dealing with people; communication because every industry is now a service industry).
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