Thread: Would you juice for no medical reason?

1. You have around 10 years of lifting experience. <---- NOT!
2. You see a doctor who will prescribe them to you, but tells you that your test levels are fine. <--- something like that
3. You DO have moderate nutrition knowledge. <---- a must
4. You have someone there to coach you through it. (someone that has experience taking it) <---- a must

I'm waiting to do gear as we speak. When I've followed the advise given here a gazillion times and reached my natural maximum potential (within reason) then I'll use gear to get where I want to go. Until then I'll just grunt, sweat, and watch my numbers climb.

I'll be using gear as a replacement for what my body stops producing as I age. That old dude that has a hard time getting out of his chair at 65? That won't be me if I continue with my current life style. As I get older I will need chemical help. Proper living through chemistry will hopefully carry me into my 70's as a fit old bastard.

Something else though. I voted positive in the poll because of the conditions you set. 10 years? That's a little too arbitrary IMHO. Some guys could lift for 2 or 3 years and be ready, others never. Point being that 10 year bit I don't subscribe too as a condition for doing gear.

I don't see myself doing gear anytime soon. I can't imagine I'd be able to stick myself with a needle. Maybe if I had someone to do that for me a few years down the road. Otherwise no.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

I'm waiting to do gear as we speak. When I've followed the advise given here a gazillion times and reached my natural maximum potential (within reason) then I'll use gear to get where I want to go. Until then I'll just grunt, sweat, and watch my numbers climb.

I'll be using gear as a replacement for what my body stops producing as I age. That old dude that has a hard time getting out of his chair at 65? That won't be me if I continue with my current life style. As I get older I will need chemical help. Proper living through chemistry will hopefully carry me into my 70's as a fit old bastard.

Something else though. I voted positive in the poll because of the conditions you set. 10 years? That's a little too arbitrary IMHO. Some guys could lift for 2 or 3 years and be ready, others never. Point being that 10 year bit I don't subscribe too as a condition for doing gear.

I can see you taking it for a medical reason cuz of your age. Your test levels will be lower than this roommate's.

I posted up the conditions as a whole, not if one applies, but the other does not. I also put 10 years in there to be absolutely safe. Theres no room to ask "is this enough time to lift naturally?"

This roommate of her's used to lift everyday. Extremely dedicated. Then he stopped. For 2 years, Id say(?) Then he started back up, but for less than a year. Now all of a sudden, he goes with his buddies to do a max bench contest while a juicer spots...they all go out to eat (wonder what the conversation topics were ), then there are syringes being delivered to the house.

To me, the guy is lying and he might as well be 16. However, there are some things I dont know, so I cant say what he is prepared for and what hes going to do with this package. For all I know, the fucker is telling the truth OR he did go to the doctor...

It's easy to say no to gear, but once you've been lifting for 10 years, the last 3 without significant gains and you've reached your natural potential, I imagine the offer will be a lot more tempting.

For now, no. Later, I hope not, but maybe.

Originally Posted by Witchblade

It's easy to say no to gear, but once you've been lifting for 10 years, the last 3 without significant gains and you've reached your natural potential, I imagine the offer will be a lot more tempting.

For now, no. Later, I hope not, but maybe.

Then Id say your answer lies toward the Risk < Reward. You dont have a medical reason, you just want to lift more.

From what I am speculating, this roommate of her's is possibly juicing just for vanity. Despite people saying that its ok to use properly and in correct moderation (via doctors orders), would you feel comfortable doing it?

You might have possible heart problems and didnt tell your doctor about a chance of them cuz you didnt know it ran in your family, for instance.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

I'm waiting to do gear as we speak. When I've followed the advise given here a gazillion times and reached my natural maximum potential (within reason) then I'll use gear to get where I want to go. Until then I'll just grunt, sweat, and watch my numbers climb.

I'll be using gear as a replacement for what my body stops producing as I age. That old dude that has a hard time getting out of his chair at 65? That won't be me if I continue with my current life style. As I get older I will need chemical help. Proper living through chemistry will hopefully carry me into my 70's as a fit old bastard.

what he said

I actually came here for advice on tren back in '04. How to cook it, what to use it with, blah blah blah. Reading up on gear while being here and discovering what I was doing wrong prevented me from hitting the juice. IM prevents steroid abuse ... and what I would have been doing would have been abuse IMHO.

For me personally I see no reason to juice. I weight train and exercise to be healthy. As for performance, I ain't playing and pro sports so why would I.

Again this JMO.

It's not really whether the roommate is ready to take them, will be responsible etc. it's whether the female involved is hot or not.....


Just kidding it's really whether or not she feels comfortable with someone bringing illegal substances into her home, although it's his home as well he should have the decency to tell her what he is doing.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I can see you taking it for a medical reason cuz of your age. Your test levels will be lower than this roommate's.

I posted up the conditions as a whole, not if one applies, but the other does not. I also put 10 years in there to be absolutely safe. Theres no room to ask "is this enough time to lift naturally?"

This roommate of her's used to lift everyday. Extremely dedicated. Then he stopped. For 2 years, Id say(?) Then he started back up, but for less than a year. Now all of a sudden, he goes with his buddies to do a max bench contest while a juicer spots...they all go out to eat (wonder what the conversation topics were ), then there are syringes being delivered to the house.

To me, the guy is lying and he might as well be 16. However, there are some things I dont know, so I cant say what he is prepared for and what hes going to do with this package. For all I know, the fucker is telling the truth OR he did go to the doctor...

AKIRA why'd you pick 10 years ... just curious?

I will not make it the 10 years you defined in one stretch. I had a long lay off right before I got here and a few short ones since for various reasons. Regardless I'll have reached my potential long before I reach the 10 year mark you set ...

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I posted up the conditions as a whole, not if one applies, but the other does not. I also put 10 years in there to be absolutely safe. Theres no room to ask "is this enough time to lift naturally?"

I could say someone over the age of 18 too, but then the immediate question would be "how long have they lifted?"

Most people that develop a dedication to this starts in their teens. After 10 years of lifting, Id say its more than enough time working out naturally. Might be too long, but I know if I lifted for a decade, that question is immediatley answered versus someone who 'might' need more time than 2 years.

You can get juice on eBay??

This is the first time I've used it - and I'm happy with the results so far.

I'm older, and to the point that my gains where very slow with good nutrition and exercise habits. I just figured that if I didn't try it, I would always wonder "what if"...

Yes, and I did get that gut-wrenching feeling as soon as I ordered, wondering if some "mail cop" was going to be knocking on my door, but.. whatever.

All in all, my reason is for vanity, I guess, if I'm being totally honest about it.