Hillary Clinton offers new health care plan.

**min0 lee** · 09-18-2007, 07:37 PM

Hillary Clinton offers new health care plan

BY MICHAEL McAULIFF
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

Tuesday, September 18th 2007, 4:00 AM

Hillary Clinton announces proposal to provide affordable health insurance for all Americans yesterday in Iowa. Plan drew criticism from Prez contenders Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and Barack Obama.

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DES MOINES - Hillary Clinton Health Care. Volume Two: Keeping it simple this time.

In her second cut at overhauling the nation's health care system, the former First Lady scrapped her disastrous 1993-94 script in favor of a straightforward plan that she said creates no new bureaucracy.

"Today's plan is simpler, yet still bold," she said, promising to maintain private insurance choices Americans now have - and adding a public insurance option.

Clinton has been licking her wounds since her health care debacle nearly derailed her husband's presidency - often joking she has the "scars to show for it" - before unveiling her much-anticipated do-over yesterday.

"Perhaps more than anybody else, I know just how hard this fight will be," said the Democratic White House front-runner, whose proposal was lambasted almost instantly by Democratic and Republican foes - many eager toremind voters of her previous failure.

Her $110 billion-a-year plan would require all Americans to buy insurance - through their jobs or a program modeled on Medicare or the federal employees' health plan.

Businesses would be required to offer insurance or contribute to a coverage pool, subsidized by higher taxes on people making more than $250,000 annually.

"I know my Republican opponents will try to equate health care for all Americans with government-run health care," Clinton said. "Don't let them fool us again. This is not government-run."

She pledged to build a "consensus" with health care providers, businesses, regular people and the insurance industry - all groups she alienated in her closed-door plotting 14 years ago - to finish the job in her first presidential term.

Clinton has accepted more than $800,000 from the health care industry to finance her White House bid. Her pledge to work with many of the same interests that killed her first reform plan - and now flood her campaign coffers - prompted rival John Edwards to pounce.

"The lesson Sen. Clinton seems to have learned from her experience with health care is, 'If you can't beat 'em, join 'em,'" he said. "The cost of failure 14 years ago is not just someone's political future or their scars, it's the millions of Americans who have now been almost 15 years without health care," he added.

Barack Obama slammed her plan as a weak copy of his. "It's similar to the one I put forth last spring, though my universal health care plan would go further in reducing the punishing cost of health care than any other proposal that's been offered in this campaign," he said.

And as Clinton predicted, Republicans panned her proposal.

"Government command and control only increases costs and decreases quality," Rudy Giuliani said.

Mitt Romney, who drew a rebuke from St. Vincent's Hospital Manhattan for using the facility as a backdrop for his attack, said, "The last thing we need is 'Hillary Care.'"

mmcauliff@nydailynews.com

**bio-chem** · 09-18-2007, 07:41 PM

so does it provide health care for illegal immigrants? someone tell DOMS about this?

**DOMS** · 09-18-2007, 07:52 PM

The illegals will take advantage of it. Of that I'm certain.

BTW, Kerry promised the same thing in the last election. When he was asked where the money to cover it was going to come from, he changed the subject.

**bio-chem** · 09-18-2007, 07:55 PM

hillary got her ass handed to her last time she took up the health care battle standard. i dont think she will fare any different this time

**DOMS** · 09-18-2007, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

hillary got her ass handed to her last time she took up the health care battle standard. i dont think she will fare any different this time

You're probably gonna cough up a lung, but I'm considering voting for Obama.

**Vieope** · 09-18-2007, 08:01 PM

Was she hot a few years ago or she was never hot?

**min0 lee** · 09-18-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

You're probably gonna cough up a lung, but I'm considering voting for Obama.

OK, now who hacked into DOMS IM account? This man is an imposter!

**bio-chem** · 09-18-2007, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

You're probably gonna cough up a lung, but I'm considering voting for Obama.

lets hope he makes it through the primaries. I'm not a registered democrat so i have no say on who they will put up as their candidate. all i want is for each party to put up a viable candidate. i dont want to worry about the lesser of two idiots this next election

**DOMS** · 09-18-2007, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

lets hope he makes it through the primaries. I'm not a registered democrat so i have no say on who they will put up as their candidate. all i want is for each party to put up a viable candidate. i dont want to worry about the lesser of two idiots this next election

Amen.

**DOMS** · 09-18-2007, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

OK, now who hacked into DOMS IM account? This man is an imposter!

**bio-chem** · 09-18-2007, 08:11 PM

if i could have it my way i would have a republican led congress with a democrat for president. i prefer it if both the parties and branches of government sit there and fight things out, that way only the important stuff gets done. no ones agenda, or pet project gets pushed into law. the government that governs best, governs least

**min0 lee** · 09-18-2007, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

lets hope he makes it through the primaries. I'm not a registered democrat so i have no say on who they will put up as their candidate. all i want is for each party to put up a viable candidate. i dont want to worry about the lesser of two idiots this next election

Agreed.

**bio-chem** · 09-18-2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Agreed.

thank you. maybe people will start to understand im not an ultra-conservative like im perceived to be on this forum

**BoneCrusher** · 09-18-2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

You're probably gonna cough up a lung, but I'm considering voting for Obama.

Man I almost did 'til I saw this on a Bama website.

**bio-chem** · 09-18-2007, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Man I almost did 'til I saw this on a Bama website.

its the obama girl video that has me rooting for him

**DOMS** · 09-18-2007, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Man I almost did 'til I saw this on a Bama website.

Well done!

**Big Smoothy** · 09-18-2007, 11:53 PM

Hillary is being backed by Big Pharma.

If Big Pharma is happy then the plan has already been sold to them.

**FishOrCutBait** · 09-19-2007, 12:48 AM

She will have to come to my house, and suck my dick herself if she wants me to vote for her.

Even then, I might not.

**bio-chem** · 09-19-2007, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Hillary is being backed by Big Pharma.

If Big Pharma is happy then the plan has already been sold to them.

but what do doctors and hospitals say about it is what i want to know?

**busyLivin** · 09-19-2007, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

You're probably gonna cough up a lung, but I'm considering voting for Obama.

say it ain't so

**DOMS** · 09-19-2007, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

say it ain't so

I said "considering", not that I'm going to vote for him.

**busyLivin** · 09-19-2007, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

I said "considering".

that's unsettling enough

**DOMS** · 09-19-2007, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

that's unsettling enough

So far, he's the only that stands out of the pack in terms of doing his own thing and not towing his party line. Plus, he's a moderate.

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