Thread: Blackwater mercenaries

They make alot of money too a lot more then if they had stayed in. All the money is in Private contracting I learned that from working in Fire for the forrest service.



One of the reasons Rome fell was because it relied on mercenaries.

I'm pretty sure they can't just whatever they want....they still have ROE's and are accountable to US law.

Private security firms have been around for years.

Originally Posted by NordicNacho

They make alot of money too a lot more then if they had stayed in. All the money is in Private contracting I learned that from working in Fire for the forrest service.



One of the reasons Rome fell was because it relied on mercenaries.

I looked at the contract page, it says they make $550 per day of contract. An E6 with 8 years of military service in an elite unit would make like $3,000-$4,000 at their assigned post and probably around $5-6k on combat duty. So they're really making around 4 times the money.

Come on dude, who's going to regulate those guys while theyre in an occupied country? The US Military? Fat chance...

Originally Posted by iMan323

I looked at the contract page, it says they make $550 per day of contract. An E6 with 8 years of military service in an elite unit would make like $3,000-$4,000 at their assigned post and probably around $5-6k on combat duty. So they're really making around 4 times the money.

Come on dude, who's going to regulate those guys while theyre in an occupied country? The US Military? Fat chance...

... they're watching you iMan ...

yea, but the ywere recently banned from Iraq. i bet bush changes the name of the company and keeps them all there

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

... they're watching you iMan ...

I'm suprised you are resorting to broger/DOM's tactics even when what iMan said is true. It's not a conspiracy of any kind, and I'm sure if there are any sociopaths, and I'm sure they're quite a few in blackwater, they can probably get away with murder and do.

A high-ranking US military commander in Iraq said: “These guys run loose in this country and do stupid stuff. There’s no authority over them, so you can’t come down on them hard when they escalate force. They shoot people.”


“Blackwater security guards were not ambushed, as the company reported, but instead fired at a car when it did not heed a policeman’s call to stop, killing a couple and their infant…"



Making a killing: how private armies became a $120bn global industry - Independent Online Edition > Middle East

Just heard that Blackwater USA's been allowed to operate again, but only on essential missions originating from the Green Zone and that's it. Hopefully this'll cause the private security companies to draw up stricter rules, but who knows? You can't really blame them, though, things get confusing in the fog of war. I'm not condoning shooting innocent civilians for the hell of it, but as far as I know, the cars they drive around in have signs on the rear end warning for people to stay a certain distance or they will be shot.

BTW, Rome also fell because of the Visigoths coming in from the North, not just because they relied on mercenary arms, which is completely different from the private security contractors we use in Iraq. If we hired an outfit like Blackwater to go take out a target, we're just as bad as Rome, but we're not. So relax, and let the Coalition of the Billing do their job protecting VIPs so our soldiers can do their thing without worrying about the safety of some numbnut official.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

“Blackwater security guards were not ambushed, as the company reported, but instead fired at a car when it did not heed a policeman’s call to stop, killing a couple and their infant…"

In a country where people like to blow you up with car bombs, that action makes sense.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I'm suprised you are resorting to broger/DOM's tactics even when what iMan said is true. It's not a conspiracy of any kind, and I'm sure if there are any sociopaths, and I'm sure they're quite a few in blackwater, they can probably get away with murder and do.

YOU are over-reacting BigDyl. My opinions on the Iraq war are well known here.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

YOU are over-reacting BigDyl. My opinions on the Iraq war are well known here.

I think you're a blackwater mercinary....

just following up on what DOMS said, yeah i mean everyone already knows about car bombs an such, so that was a justified action. Although i must admit some of the blackwater guys looks badass.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I think you're a blackwater mercinary....

Lawl. I just realized the title of this thread is Blackwater Mercenaries. First of all, they are NOT mercs. A mercenary is classified as a person hired to bear arms in an offensive operation, therefore Blackwater USA and all these other companies (Triple Canopy, etc) are not mercenary outfits. They are there in a defensive role. Second, even though there may be a small percentage of dumbshits who decide to shoot up some Iraqis for the hell of it, most of the guys there are professionals. Just remember that as you guys participate in this pissing contest.

Originally Posted by YSK

just following up on what DOMS said, yeah i mean everyone already knows about car bombs an such, so that was a justified action. Although i must admit some of the blackwater guys looks badass.

I'm sure they look badass when they're shooting 50 cal bullets into infants.

Originally Posted by TopAdams314

Lawl. I just realized the title of this thread is Blackwater Mercenaries. First of all, they are NOT mercs. A mercenary is classified as a person hired to bear arms in an offensive operation, therefore Blackwater USA and all these other companies (Triple Canopy, etc) are not mercenary outfits. They are there in a defensive role. Second, even though there may be a small percentage of dumbshits who decide to shoot up some Iraqis for the hell of it, most of the guys there are professionals. Just remember that as you guys participate in this pissing contest.

It's just a euphemism for mercenary... but you can call it anything you want... "defensive security official," "freedom protector," etc.

Originally Posted by TopAdams314

Lawl. I just realized the title of this thread is Blackwater Mercenaries. First of all, they are NOT mercs. A mercenary is classified as a person hired to bear arms in an offensive operation, therefore Blackwater USA and all these other companies (Triple Canopy, etc) are not mercenary outfits. They are there in a defensive role. Second, even though there may be a small percentage of dumbshits who decide to shoot up some Iraqis for the hell of it, most of the guys there are professionals. Just remember that as you guys participate in this pissing contest.

Main Entry: 1mer·ce·nary
Pronunciation: 'm&r-s&-"ner-E, -ne-rE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nar·ies
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin mercenarius, irregular from merced-, merces wages -- more at MERCY
: one that serves merely for wages; especially : a soldier hired into foreign service

This war was touted as not ever to be anything like Vietnam and is sooo totally like Vietnam.

The stories of innocents being massacred. A government that lied. The powers behind it being in it for the money. Do we have another Hanoi Jane in this anywhere?

Originally Posted by squanto

Main Entry: 1mer·ce·nary
Pronunciation: 'm&r-s&-"ner-E, -ne-rE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nar·ies
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin mercenarius, irregular from merced-, merces wages -- more at MERCY
: one that serves merely for wages; especially : a soldier hired into foreign service

Good answer splash.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

This war was touted as not ever to be anything like Vietnam and is sooo totally like Vietnam.

The stories of innocents being massacred. A government that lied. The powers behind it being in it for the money. Do we have another Hanoi Jane in this anywhere?

Sean Penn?

Originally Posted by maniclion

Sean Penn?

What a piece of shit.

They're not necessarily bad dudes. They are, however, mercenaries of the highest order. For many of them it's the only occupation they can do with dignity after they are released into the civilian world. I knew quite a few guys who did multiple tours in Iraq just to earn some extra $$$.

Again the point I was trying to make is that these guys are basically unchecked.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Good answer splash.

Fuck off, I'm not splash, sorry the mods here are too retarded to know what an IP address is.

Originally Posted by squanto

Fuck off, I'm not splash, sorry the mods here are too retarded to know what an IP address is.

thats not going to score you many points

civilian or no, they didnt yield for a police officer. that means you get shot. here in america it means you get tased. both are appropriate for the circumstances and i support them.

WASHINGTON - Federal prosecutors are investigating whether employees of the private security firm Blackwater USA illegally smuggled into Iraq weapons that may have been sold on the black market and ended up in the hands of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, officials said Friday.

and:

he U.S. Attorney's Office in Raleigh, N.C., is handling the investigation with help from Pentagon and State Department auditors, who have concluded there is enough evidence to file charges....

The News & Observer of Raleigh reported that two former Blackwater employees — Kenneth Wayne Cashwell of Virginia Beach, Va., and William Ellsworth "Max" Grumiaux of Clemmons, N.C. — are cooperating with federal investigators.

Cashwell and Grumiaux pleaded guilty in early 2007 to possession of stolen firearms that had been shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, and aided and abetted another in doing so, according to court papers viewed by The Associated Press. In their plea agreements, which call for a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine, the men agreed to testify in any future proceedings.

Link: Feds target Blackwater in weapons probe - Yahoo! News

No suprise to learn yet another uber corrupt organization.. No suprise it's fully supported by bio-chem. Bio-chem's nationalism is so blind he'd probably support a hallocaust under the US regime.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

No suprise to learn yet another uber corrupt organization.. No suprise it's fully supported by bio-chem. Bio-chem's nationalism is so blind he'd probably support a hallocaust under the US regime.

only if they were targeting pussy-ass little liberal jackasses who thought a school crossing guard holding a stop sign was a conspiracy for infringing upon their rights and freedoms all while supporting gun legistlation

Originally Posted by squanto

Fuck off, I am splash, the mods here know what an IP address is.

It's okay splash. We know.