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    GOP Is Losing Grip On Core Business Vote

    WASHINGTON -- The Republican Party, known since the late 19th century as the party of business, is losing its lock on that title.
    New evidence suggests a potentially historic shift in the Republican Party's identity -- what strategists call its "brand." The votes of many disgruntled fiscal conservatives and other lapsed Republicans are now up for grabs, which could alter U.S. politics in the 2008 elections and beyond.
    Some business leaders are drifting away from the party because of the war in Iraq, the growing federal debt and a conservative social agenda they don't share. In manufacturing sectors such as the auto industry, some Republicans want direct government help with soaring health-care costs, which Republicans in Washington have been reluctant to provide. And some business people want more government action on global warming, arguing that a bolder plan is not only inevitable, but could spur new industries.

    Already, economic conservatives who favor balanced federal budgets have become a much smaller part of the party's base. That's partly because other groups, especially social conservatives, have grown more dominant. But it's also the result of defections by other fiscal conservatives angered by the growth of government spending during the six years that Republicans controlled both the White House and Congress.
    The most prominent sign of dissatisfaction has come from former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, long a pillar of Republican Party economic thinking. He blasted the party's fiscal record in a new book. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, he said: "The Republican Party, which ruled the House, the Senate and the presidency, I no longer recognize."

    Some well-known business leaders have openly changed allegiances. Morgan Stanley Chairman and Chief Executive John Mack, formerly a big Bush backer, now supports Democratic front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York. John Canning Jr., chairman and chief executive of Madison Dearborn Partners, a large private-equity firm, now donates to Democrats after a lifetime as a Republican. Recently, he told one Democratic Party leader: "The Republican Party left me" -- a twist on a line Ronald Reagan and his followers used when they abandoned the Democratic Party decades ago to protest its '60s and '70s-era liberalism.
    Concern for their fiscal reputation is reflected in the fights that President Bush and congressional Republicans now are picking with the new Democratic majority over annual appropriations and an expansion of a children's health program, in hopes of placating party conservatives.
    For all the disillusionment among Republicans, the party retains strong support in many parts of the business community, in part because of fears about the taxing and regulating tendencies of Democrats. Danny Diaz, spokesman for the Republican National Committee, says, "Americans of every political persuasion that value hard work, keeping more hard-earned dollars, and economic independence and entrepreneurship will continue to stand behind the Republican Party."

    Polling Data
    But polling data confirm business support for Republicans is eroding. In the Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll in September, 37% of professionals and managers identify themselves as Republican or leaning Republican, down from 44% three years ago.
    Richard Clinch, a 69-year-old New York native, illustrates the party's plight. The retired Westinghouse manager and mechanical engineer says he has been "a lifelong Republican." As a young fiscal conservative, he was attracted by the party's reputation for frugal and competent governance, he says. The Democratic Party left him cold, he says, because of its social spending and ties to the unions that exasperated him at work. As a retiree in Annapolis, Md., he became a local Republican officer.
    Yet next year, for the first time since he began voting in 1960, Mr. Clinch won't support the Republican presidential nominee, he says. He only "very reluctantly" voted for Mr. Bush's re-election in 2004. "Like many Republicans, I am frustrated," he says. "We've lost control of spending," and the administration's execution of the Iraq war has been "incompetent." Mr. Clinch says he is liberal about rights for women and gays, and vexed that "we [Republicans] get sidetracked on these issues like gay marriage."
    Jumping Parties
    Such misgivings do not necessarily translate into long-term gains for Democrats. Mr. Clinch says his two sons -- one a 50-year-old ophthalmologist, the other a 42-year-old economist -- have both jumped from the Republican to the Democratic Party. But Mr. Clinch isn't necessarily voting Democratic. "I think I'm becoming an independent," he says. "If I were 21 years old, I'd be an independent definitely."
    For his part, Mr. Greenspan says he doubts he will vote for a Democrat for president next year, because the party is moving "in the wrong direction," becoming more populist and protectionist

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    You get the Wall street Journal? Cool paper Heinz is breeding sweeter tomatoes because ethanol is raising the price of corn syrup. Crazy shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordicNacho View Post
    You get the Wall street Journal? Cool paper Heinz is breeding sweeter tomatoes because ethanol is raising the price of corn syrup. Crazy shit
    Ethanol is such a waste of resources, I mean the amount of energy put into extracting ethanol exceeds what you get from the final product yet this seems to be the latest craze for our gov. to support. And now not only will corn fields take up valuable farm land, put also tomatoes? And on top of that gov. is also looking into palm oil as a biofuel. That is a totally ignorant mistake because those little nations who produce it have no real regulations on how much and which lands get cleared. That means that even more invaluable rainforest is stripped bare...
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    The first primary is in Iowa. Guess what they are the #1 producer of? You got to love politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Ethanol is such a waste of resources, I mean the amount of energy put into extracting ethanol exceeds what you get from the final product yet this seems to be the latest craze for our gov. to support. And now not only will corn fields take up valuable farm land, put also tomatoes? And on top of that gov. is also looking into palm oil as a biofuel. That is a totally ignorant mistake because those little nations who produce it have no real regulations on how much and which lands get cleared. That means that even more invaluable rainforest is stripped bare...
    At least with hemp it creates a closed carbon loop. 1 acre of hemp = 1000 gallons of ethanol. And if that isn't "enough" then you aren't being efficient with the fuel... Yeah I guess if you drive a hummer it wouldn't work... but we should be thinking past that anyways.

    You seem to become more conservative everyday. Have you also abandoned the solar pannel bussiness?
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    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


    Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
    Total ownage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
    At least with hemp it creates a closed carbon loop. 1 acre of hemp = 1000 gallons of ethanol. And if that isn't "enough" then you aren't being efficient with the fuel... Yeah I guess if you drive a hummer it wouldn't work... but we should be thinking past that anyways.

    You seem to become more conservative everyday. Have you also abandoned the solar pannel bussiness?
    He's being what you will never be: realistic.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
    At least with hemp it creates a closed carbon loop. 1 acre of hemp = 1000 gallons of ethanol. And if that isn't "enough" then you aren't being efficient with the fuel... Yeah I guess if you drive a hummer it wouldn't work... but we should be thinking past that anyways.

    You seem to become more conservative everyday. Have you also abandoned the solar pannel bussiness?
    Conservative? I am against burning more shit thats all and against deforestation....if that makes me conservative then call me Rush Limpjaw....
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