Congrats to Gore. IMO he's one of the only US politicians that's trying to make a difference so I give him a lot of credit.
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I think it is good, he would still make a horrible president, although by comparison he wouldn't be so bad. Gore is all about the climate, something which is very important...One of about 700 things that are very important. If he got crackin' on the other 699, I would consider him in the running.
If sense were common, everyone would have it.
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It makes perfect sense. Not only is the Nobel Peace Prize a shit award, but he gets to share it with a corrupt, hypocritical, organization.
Would you please name me one organization in the history of the world that is not corrupt or hypocritical at some point?
It's easy to go after an org devoted to human rights and peaceful solutions b/c those efforts will always fall short.
Did you have the same criticism--corrupt & hypocritical--about the Coalition of the Willing and its illegal run up to war with Iraq?
From where I'm sitting, criticism is fine and expected. I think the Nobel prize committee has a history of flawed decisions. I think the UN does make mistakes.
I think it is good, he would still make a horrible president, although by comparison he wouldn't be so bad. Gore is all about the climate, something which is very important...One of about 700 things that are very important. If he got crackin' on the other 699, I would consider him in the running.
I respectfully disagree Mr. Mabry.
Gore was against the Iraq invasion and against the 1.6 trillion dollar tax cut. With just those two judgments, almost 4 thousand americans would still be alive along with some 70,000 iraqis and the US's debt would not be tripling like it is under the current buffoon.
Would you please name me one organization in the history of the world that is not corrupt or hypocritical at some point?
It's easy to go after an org devoted to human rights and peaceful solutions b/c that effort will always fall short.
Fall short? That's like saying Bush isn't MIT material.
All of the fucking botched attempts, or completely ignoring, life and death events around the world; resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. China on the Human Rights council. The billion dollar oil for food scandal run by the leader's son, who then tried to cover it up. And that's just some of the shit they are/do.
The U.N. is a joke and, hopefully, will go the way of the League of Nations soon.
Gore was against the Iraq invasion and against the 1.6 trillion dollar tax cut. With just those two judgments, almost 4 thousand americans would still be alive along with some 70,000 iraqis and the US's debt would not be tripling like it is under the current buffoon.
How do you know that he wouldn't have been a weak-willed, ineffectual, president that resulted in more attacks on American soil resulting in thousand of more dead Americans?
Fall short? That's like saying Bush isn't MIT material.
All of the fucking botched attempts, or completely ignoring, life and death events around the world; resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. China on the Human Rights council. The billion dollar oil for food scandal run by the leader's son, who then tried to cover it up. And that's just some of the shit they are/do.
The U.N. is a joke and, hopefully, will go the way of the League of Nations soon.
The oil for food scandal. What happened with that again? Oh yes, here:
From the Independent Inquiry Committee:
“There is no evidence that the selection of Cotecna in 1998 was subject to any affirmative or improper influence of the Secretary-General in the bidding or selection process. Based on the record and lack of evidence of impropriety, it is the finding of the Committee that Cotecna was awarded the contract in 1998 on the ground that it was the lowest bidder. The Committee also notes that, in keeping with the normal United Nations policy and practice, the Secretary-General is not involved in procurement decisions.”
The Human Rights Council has many members. I suppose the best way to try and change things in China is to ignore them and hope the problem takes care of itself.
How do you know that he wouldn't have been a weak-willed, ineffectual, president that resulted in more attacks on American soil resulting in thousand of more dead Americans?
We already have President Weak-willed and Ineffectual in office.
I know that Gore would not have invaded Iraq b/c he said so before the invasion.
I know that Gore would not have cut taxes by 1.6 trillion and cut taxes again during 2 wars b/c he said so before the tax cuts were introduced to Congress.
Please don't tell me that you think anything President Bush has done has made the US safe from terrorist attacks. Terrorist activity has bloomed since Bush decided to invade Iraq illegally.
People are so deluded they try to compare Gore to Hitler when he wins the peace prize. That's hilarious! I didn't think it was possible, but yes, that reached a new low.
With that being said, Gore was nothing special until lately when I believe he actually cares about and believes in what he is doing. That matters, and is alot more than I can say for Bush.
So Gore's winning peace prizes and Bush is starting wars.
What's next for Bush? Iran war maybe?
What a tangled web we weave...
Originally Posted by kbm8795
Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.
We already have President Weak-willed and Ineffectual in office.
I know that Gore would not have invaded Iraq b/c he said so before the invasion.
I know that Gore would not have cut taxes by 1.6 trillion and cut taxes again during 2 wars b/c he said so before the tax cuts were introduced to Congress.
Please don't tell me that you think anything President Bush has done has made the US safe from terrorist attacks. Terrorist activity has bloomed since Bush decided to invade Iraq illegally.
You're completely wrong, because Bush is torturing alot of random people to get information about "the terrorist wearabouts."
We go from attacking Iraq because it's an imminent threat, to attacking iraq beause we're bring democracy to the country, to occupying the country because civil war, then we can't leave because it's choas. What a fucked up muderous blunder.
Originally Posted by kbm8795
Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.
"This is how Al Gore’s resumé reads as of this morning:
Son of a great senator.
Harvard graduate, with honors.
Vietnam veteran.
Award-winning investigative journalist.
Congressman.
Senator.
Vice President.
Winner of the popular vote for President of the United States.
Best-selling author.
Environmental activist.
Academy Award winner.
And, now, Nobel Peace Prize winner"
Your rebuttle?
"YEAH BUT HE SAID HE INVENTED THE INTERNET!!!"
Originally Posted by kbm8795
Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.
People are so deluded they try to compare Gore to Hitler when he wins the peace prize. That's hilarious! I didn't think it was possible, but yes, that reached a new low.
No, it's that you're a fucking moron.
No one has compared Gore to Hitler. No one. What actually happened is that your shitting reading comprehension has served you poorly.
The point of mentioning Hitler was to illustrate the pathetic nature of the people who issue the Nobel Peace Prize and not to make a comparison between Hitler and Gore.
The oil for food scandal. What happened with that again? Oh yes, here:
From the Independent Inquiry Committee:
“There is no evidence that the selection of Cotecna in 1998 was subject to any affirmative or improper influence of the Secretary-General in the bidding or selection process. Based on the record and lack of evidence of impropriety, it is the finding of the Committee that Cotecna was awarded the contract in 1998 on the ground that it was the lowest bidder. The Committee also notes that, in keeping with the normal United Nations policy and practice, the Secretary-General is not involved in procurement decisions.”
You've got to be kidding me... A "independent" panel setup to investigate the U.N.'s corruption was headed by the U.N.'s Secretary-General. Of course he didn't find much.
Originally Posted by Decker
The Human Rights Council has many members. I suppose the best way to try and change things in China is to ignore them and hope the problem takes care of itself.
Fine then. Here's hoping that the Boy Scouts of America sees the light and puts a pedophile on the payroll, lest the pedophiles feel ignored.
Originally Posted by Decker
What about the good things the UN does?
Like what? What did they do? Keep in mind that most of what gets done is actually done by member countries as they see fit.
They're little more than a place for politicians to bitch and abuse power, but on an international scale.
We already have President Weak-willed and Ineffectual in office.
I know that Gore would not have invaded Iraq b/c he said so before the invasion.
I know that Gore would not have cut taxes by 1.6 trillion and cut taxes again during 2 wars b/c he said so before the tax cuts were introduced to Congress.
Please don't tell me that you think anything President Bush has done has made the US safe from terrorist attacks. Terrorist activity has bloomed since Bush decided to invade Iraq illegally.
ineffectual? yea i can see an arguement for that. weak-willed? is just ridiculous in reference to bush. despite growing resistence to any decision he has made, he has held to his course of action unflinchingly. its hard to say this president is weak-willed. he is many other negative characteristics, but that doesnt seem to be the problem. the changing winds have done little to this presidents decision making compass.
has terrorist activity bloomed here in the US? here on our soil? in one day on US soil we lost how many thousand US civilian citizens? and in the 6 years since that time we have invaded 2 countries, toppled 2 evil regimes, and have lost not a single civilian on US soil due to foreign terrorism. they are killing more of their own people now than they are of US soldiers.
i dont like, or agree with the Iraq war, but instead of bitching about it maybe the brilliant minds of our generation should figure out how to help Christians and Muslims live together? instead of just bitching that what other people are doing is wrong.
on a side note, what the hell does global warming have to do with peace? are wars being fought over global warming that im not aware about?
i dont like, or agree with the Iraq war, but instead of bitching about it maybe the brilliant minds of our generation should figure out how to help Christians and Muslims live together? instead of just bitching that what other people are doing is wrong.
I would hardly call this war a religious one.
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Gore was against the Iraq invasion and against the 1.6 trillion dollar tax cut. With just those two judgments, almost 4 thousand americans would still be alive along with some 70,000 iraqis and the US's debt would not be tripling like it is under the current buffoon.
its hard to say how many of those iraqis would still be alive. we dont know what the present iraqi situation would be if we had never gone in there. sadam wasnt a great guy after all. not all of those 70,000 iraqi deaths have been by americans. many of those are iraqi deaths caused by their own people. they are on the brink of civil war. with the good guys loosing except for us being there
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Originally Posted by DOMS You've got to be kidding me... A "independent" panel setup to investigate the U.N.'s corruption was headed by the U.N.'s Secretary-General. Of course he didn't find much.
Gee whilikers DOMS, do you know what you're talking about? The "INDEPENDENT" committee was headed by Paul Volcker.
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Like what? What did they do? Keep in mind that most of what gets done is actually done by member countries as they see fit.
DOMS the UN is its members...no members, no UN. Here's a small list of some achievements:
1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development - The system's annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries.
6. UN Human Rights Commission has focused world attention on cases of torture, disappearance, and arbitrary detention and has generated international pressure.
7. UN Conference eon Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, resulted in treaties on bio-diversity and climate change.
8. Has helped minimize the threat of a nuclear war by inspecting nuclear reactors in 90.
9. Over 300 international treaties, on topics as varied as human rights conventions to agreements on the use of outer space and seabed.
10. The International Court of Justice has helped settle international disputes involving territorial issues, diplomatic relations, hostage-taking, and economic rights. United Nations Accomplishments & Achievements
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They're little more than a place for politicians to bitch and abuse power, but on an international scale.
That's diplomacy and judging by some of its successes there's hope for the future.
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Reason: I hit the wrong button. Sorry, man.
its hard to say how many of those iraqis would still be alive. we dont know what the present iraqi situation would be if we had never gone in there. sadam wasnt a great guy after all. not all of those 70,000 iraqi deaths have been by americans. many of those are iraqi deaths caused by their own people. they are on the brink of civil war. with the good guys loosing except for us being there