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    I'm no Muslim, says Barack Obama

    Would it make a difference to you if he was a Muslim?

    I'm no Muslim, says Barack Obama


    BY MICHAEL SAUL
    DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
    Sunday, December 23rd 2007, 4:00 AM

    PLEASANTVILLE, Iowa - A day before he will fly back to Chicago to spend Christmas with his family, a voter asked Barack Obama to explain his "Muslim background" - an Internet-fed fallacy that continues to dog his campaign.

    Becky Michael, 58, accepted Obama's assurances Saturday that he is Christian. But her reasons for asking showed the trouble the rumor can cause the Illinois senator.
    "It's not so important that he is a Christian, although I'm very thankful he is," said Michael. "But it's very important that he's not a Muslim."
    Asked to respond to Michael's remarks, campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki declined to criticize her. Instead, she said, "Barack Obama embraces people of all faiths and welcomes them as supporters."
    Earlier this month, former Sen. Bob Kerrey sparked controversy when he endorsed Hillary Clinton but lauded Obama's family connection to Islam. Kerrey mentioned Obama's middle name - Hussein - and said incorrectly that Obama had attended a madrassa, or Islamic religious school.
    For most of this year, Obama has been dogged by Internet chatter that suggested the Democratic presidential contender is Muslim. He belongs to the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.
    Obama explained his faith to Michael over tea and pumpkin pie at the Smokey Row coffeehouse.
    "My father was from Kenya, and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is he wasn't very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas," Obama said. "I've always been a Christian.... The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam."
    Obama told Michael that he lived in Indonesia, a Muslim country, as a child because his mother was teaching there.
    Asked by Michael to define what being a Christian is, Obama said, "Somebody who believes in Jesus Christ as our lord and savior."
    "I'm so glad," Michael replied.
    After talking with Obama, Michael, who was wearing a white sweatshirt with the words "I believe in Angels" on it, told the Daily News she "appreciated his honesty, his forthrightness."
    "I'm glad I got an answer because the Middle East is being run by the Muslims. And their kind of freedom is not the freedom that America has fought for all our lives, and I want to know that the next President of the United States, if it's Barack Obama, will be fighting for the freedom that America has fought for." msaul@nydailynews.com




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    he is getting my vote with Ron Paul coming in a close second

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    a black guy wont ever be president ....... mark my words.

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    Good for him. So far, he has my vote.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    ^ I like Obama, also.

    As for religion, it seems this election is a battle among the candidates for the Evangelical Christian vote. Evangelicals compose a large percentage of the voter populace in several states.

    A lot of focus on religion. What about the economic issues we face?

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    I doubt he will become president, too many people know what happend to all thouse African countries when a black man became president.

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    IMHO, a black president could increase the productivity of our people as a whole as well as nurture brotherhood among all but the most despicable harden racist homo white trash fagots.

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    I think honestly the economy is in a horrible state, this war is shit and people are sick of dusty white aristocrats screwing us all. If there is every going to be a black or woman president now is the best time for it. it isn't understanding and equality that will allow a shift in race or sex in office it's frustation and there's plenty of that. Things have been relatively quiet for several decades now and I'm not afraid to say that my generation may possibly see some serious social changes.

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    Don't kid yourselves.. Hillary will get the Dem's nomination. Barack won't even be in the general election, except maybe for vice... but even that I highly doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanps View Post
    I think honestly the economy is in a horrible state, this war is shit and people are sick of dusty white aristocrats screwing us all.
    It seems Obama is the only one not in the pockets.

    Hillary is actually liked as a whole, by Big Business, the Military-Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, AIPAC, and other special interests, compared to Obama.

    She's a part of the machine.

    I think she's at the center.

    The Iowa Caucuses are a joke IMO, but we'll see the beginning there, in about 2 1/2 weeks.
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    Obama is the boss because george ryan cant keep his cock in his pants

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    Whats the % on hitlerary ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigss75 View Post
    Whats the % on hitlerary ?
    The polling has shifted in recent weeks as you likely know, with Hillary going down and Obama rising.

    I think that by the end of March, the nominees for the Ds will likely be locked up because of the big states moving up in the primaries.

    (But we'll have to see.)
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    If I were in the audience, I would have been tempted to punch the shit out of that fucking retarded question asker.

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    Follow up

    Barack Obama resists attacking voter who said it's 'important he's not Muslim'

    BY MICHAEL SAUL
    DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
    Monday, December 24th 2007, 4:00 AM
    WEST DES MOINES, Iowa - Barack Obama, who has faced false rumors that he is Muslim, repeatedly refused Sunday to criticize a voter who said a follower of that religion would be unfit to be President.
    "There's no doubt that there are going to be voters for whom religious affiliation is important," said Obama. "I don't know that that's the majority, but I think the main thing I want to do is just make sure that people know who I am, know my background."
    Pressed again about whether the voter's remarks were bigoted, the Democratic White House hopeful told reporters, "Well, she didn't say it to me."
    Obama's decision to punt rather than confront bias disappointed Hussein Ibish, executive director of the Foundation for Arab-American Leadership in Washington.
    "It doesn't demonstrate a great wave of courage coming off of the candidate," the civil rights activist said. Obama's response was "a little Clintonian" - as in playing it safe, Ibish said.
    With the battle for the Democratic nomination tighter than ever, it may be risky for candidates to alienate potential supporters, whatever their views.
    Becky Michael, 58, of Pleasantville, Iowa, asked Obama at a coffee house stop Saturday to explain his "Muslim background," a question sparked by a false Internet-fueled smear campaign. Obama assured Michael he's a Christian and believes in Jesus as his lord and savior.
    After the exchange, Michael told the Daily News, "It's not so important that he is a Christian, although I'm very thankful he is. But it's very important that he's not a Muslim."
    Obama said Sunday that Michael didn't betray any prejudice to him.
    "What she said to me was she was glad I was a Christian, which I'm assuming is because she's a Christian and that's important to her," Obama said. "So that's not a bigoted comment. If she said something afterwards, that wasn't within earshot of me."
    Obama said the persistent falsehoods about his religion hasn't hurt him in the polls. A new Boston Globe survey Sunday showed Obama opening a 30%-28% lead in New Hampshire over chief rival Hillary Clinton.
    Recent Iowa polls show a three-way battle among Obama, Clinton and John Edwards. The candidates will return there after a two-day Christmas break for a final spurt of campaigning before the Jan. 3 caucuses.
    On CBS' "Face the Nation," Obama argued he is the most electable Democrat. He also pointedly said he doesn't seek to "polarize and demonize" Republicans.
    "Because of the history of some of the battles that have taken place back in the '90s, it is true that she [Clinton] tends to galvanize the other side," he said.
    msaul@nydailynews.com

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    If history repeats itsself, as it typically does...we will have a white christian male for a president.

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    Barack Hussein Obama's beloved church is all about inclusion and equality.

    Just kidding.

    "
    We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.
    The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:
    1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.
    2. A congregation preaching SALVATION.
    3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
    4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
    5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
    6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
    7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
    8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
    9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
    10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
    Click here to read about Dr. Wright’s talking points for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and the Black Value System."

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    1. Commitment to God
    2. Commitment to the Black Community
    3. Commitment to the Black Family
    4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
    5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
    6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
    7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
    8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
    9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
    10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
    11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
    12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.'
    I'm pretty sure they even moved that away from where it used to be. Probably because of all the heat they were receiving for being so blatently racist. I found the page on google (still their website), but I can't find a link to it on their own website anywhere anymore. Funny.

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    More gems:

    "We [African Americans] were always seen as objects. When we started defining ourselves, it scared those who try to control others by naming them and defining them for them; Oppressors do not like “others” defining themselves. • To have a church whose theological perspective starts from the vantage point of Black liberation theology being its center, is not to say that African or African American people are superior to any one else.
    • African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior."



    Of course not, African-American's aren't superior, but the African-centered thought is much superior to eurocentrism! Right on!



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    Obama is garbage for being associated with this racist trash.

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    What was his reason for not performing The Pledge of Allegiance when everyone else did? He looked like a tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyguy1986 View Post
    a black guy wont ever be president ....... mark my words.
    not anywhere in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by busyLivin View Post
    Don't kid yourselves.. Hillary will get the Dem's nomination.
    agreed.

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