Thread: Air Force's stealth fighters making final flights

That was a great looking bird.

On a related note, the newer F-22 Raptors still can't be picked up on radar when in stealth mode. Not ever the RAF can do it.

Man, it seems like only yesterday.....

I remember the first time I actually saw a stealth in person. I immediately knew that we had somehow adopted/implemented alien technology. Sounds crazy, but those birds were a helluva jump from F-16's.

Bring on the flying saucers, baby!!

I wonder how many times this guy lost his Stealth?

Originally Posted by DaMayor

Man, it seems like only yesterday.....

I remember the first time I actually saw a stealth in person. I immediately knew that we had somehow adopted/implemented alien technology. Sounds crazy, but those birds were a helluva jump from F-16's.

Bring on the flying saucers, baby!!

Angled warships are an ancient technology I think the Chinese or Koreans used steep varied angles on some of their frontline ships with a rounded turtle like spiked-dome over the deck to deflect incoming projectiles nothing alien about it....

Originally Posted by DOMS

That was a great looking bird.

On a related note, the newer F-22 Raptors still can't be picked up on radar when in stealth mode. Not ever the RAF can do it.

My Uncle is a F-15 trainer (and pretty highly ranked) in the AF, and he's flown against the F-22 in his F-15. He said they take off and the F-22s have missile lock on them before they can even see the F-22s on radar, visually, anything. The manner in which he described it gave me the impression it was a completely futile exercise to even attempt to fly against it, and the F-15 is the premier fighter of today, with 104-0 kill record, (I think).

Don't forget the thrust-vectoring too, which has got to be one of the coolest features ever. Here's a great video of the capabilities.

Originally Posted by brogers

My Uncle is a F-15 trainer (and pretty highly ranked) in the AF, and he's flown against the F-22 in his F-15. He said they take off and the F-22s have missile lock on them before they can even see the F-22s on radar, visually, anything. The manner in which he described it gave me the impression it was a completely futile exercise to even attempt to fly against it, and the F-15 is the premier fighter of today, with 104-0 kill record, (I think).

Don't forget the thrust-vectoring too, which has got to be one of the coolest features ever. Here's a great video of the capabilities.

Holy cow! I had no idea any plane was that maneuverable! At one point, it almost looked like it was hovering.

I read an account of an RAF pilot who said that it was very frustrating to not get a target lock on a 22 because his plane couldn't pick it up, even though he could see it from his cockpit.

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Wow!

Awesome.

All the f22 needs is a chameleon paint job and it would be set.....I love those angling thrusters first time I saw them it reminded me of airbrakes in HotShots!.......you could practically stop and drop underneath a tailing enemy and he wouldn't know what happened....

The stealth bomber is another example of taxpayers money (welfare) going to the Military-Industrial complex.

In 1989 they made too many, at about $500 million a piece (1989 dollars).

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

The stealth bomber is another example of taxpayers money (welfare) going to the Military-Industrial complex.

In 1989 they made too many, at about $500 million a piece (1989 dollars).

Wasn't a pioneering technology or anything. Moron.

Originally Posted by brogers

My Uncle is a F-15 trainer (and pretty highly ranked) in the AF, and he's flown against the F-22 in his F-15. He said they take off and the F-22s have missile lock on them before they can even see the F-22s on radar, visually, anything. The manner in which he described it gave me the impression it was a completely futile exercise to even attempt to fly against it, and the F-15 is the premier fighter of today, with 104-0 kill record, (I think).

Don't forget the thrust-vectoring too, which has got to be one of the coolest features ever. Here's a great video of the capabilities.

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That thing is freaking awesome. All they need to do now is have DARPA find out how to do their light bending invisibility cloak and then holy shit^4.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

The stealth bomber is another example of taxpayers money (welfare) going to the Military-Industrial complex.

In 1989 they made too many, at about $500 million a piece (1989 dollars).

I know where you're coming from, but I feel that there is a difference between wasting money on a war and developing new and awesome shit.

You did know that the Internet was originally a military project known as ARPANET to facilitate distributed communications in the event of nuclear war, right?

Originally Posted by brogers

Wasn't a pioneering technology or anything. Moron.

It's about the number made.

You're oversimplifying.

Originally Posted by danzik17

I know where you're coming from, but I feel that there is a difference between wasting money on a war and developing new and awesome shit.

You did know that the Internet was originally a military project known as ARPANET to facilitate distributed communications in the event of nuclear war, right?

I did not say to not do the R & D, and make a stealth.

It's the number made, and the total resulting cost.

We should go back and read Dwight Eisenhower. He wrote a lot about this.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

I did not say to not do the R & D, and make a stealth.

It's the number made, and the total resulting cost.

We should go back and read Dwight Eisenhower. He wrote a lot about this.

If you want to point the finger at the MIC should be pointing the other at the lending system that actually bankrolls the projects at interest.

The MIC pales in comparison IMO

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

The stealth bomber is another example of taxpayers money (welfare) going to the Military-Industrial complex.

In 1989 they made too many, at about $500 million a piece (1989 dollars).

Your opinion might be a little more credible if you called it by its correct name; the Stealth FIGHTER. The Stealth BOMBER is a completely different airframe.

Originally Posted by lnvanry

If you want to point the finger at the MIC should be pointing the other at the lending system that actually bankrolls the projects at interest.

The MIC pales in comparison IMO

Are you talking about the lending system, meaning the M3 money supply that the Fed keeps pumping out? Treasuries? I believe Ron Paul in his statement at a debate, that the MIC gets a huge share of the M3 money that Helicopter Ben pumps out.

Albob, thanks for the correction.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Are you talking about the lending system, meaning the M3 money supply that the Fed keeps pumping out? Treasuries? I believe Ron Paul in his statement at a debate, that the MIC gets a huge share of the M3 money that Helicopter Ben pumps out.

Albob, thanks for the correction.

Yes...the real money makes are not the recipients of the loans (even though the MIC pulls a heavy profit).

Originally Posted by lnvanry

Yes...the real money makes are not the recipients of the loans (even though the MIC pulls a heavy profit).

I'm 100% against fractional reserve banking, however our economy is extremely dependent on its existence unfortunately as it stands. I would be entirely in favor of reforming the system, however only a very small percentage of people actually understand how the money supply is created and manipulated and so the majority wouldn't see the benefit.

Every thing has to meet its end .

Originally Posted by Dareiko

Every thing has to meet its end .

Are you trying to rack up your post count?

In a nut shell, why are they retiring these planes?

Outdated technology and too expensive to upkeep. They would rather spend their money on the new technology vs upkeep on the old.