Reply With QuoteEven if he doesn't directly raise taxes, he will still be raising taxes.Originally Posted by Irons77
Inflation is a tax too. The worst kind there is.
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03-28-2008, 09:13 PM #31Training like a bitch
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Not McCain Originally Posted by Big Smoothy
Soreness is weakness exiting the body.
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No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?
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03-28-2008, 09:26 PM #33Training like a bitch
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Soreness is weakness exiting the body.
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03-28-2008, 09:43 PM #34Senior Member ELITE MEMBER
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There really is no maybe. If your money is worth 25% less due to inflation, then you have essentially been taxed 25% of your money. In the case of inflation though, you are being taxed not only on your income, but on your entire savings and future earnings.
By the way from that viewpoint GWB has raised taxes more than any President in recent history, but I'm not going to get into that since I'm sure I'll have brogers in here mindlessly defending him soon enough and I just don't feel like dealing with him.Ron Paul 2012
No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?
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03-29-2008, 04:02 AM #35Windy City ELITE MEMBER
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Irons77:Originally Posted by Big Smoothy
Higher taxes won't be able to cover it. Healthcare costs have risen dramatically.
As for raising taxes, expect tax hikes from Hillary, Obama, and McCain.
Income, FICA, state, local, healthcare costs, education costs for students, user fees, etc.
It's not about the President, but also Congress.Not McCain
Most importantly is revenue shortfall. The money has to gotten somewhere.
You cannot just keep increasing the M3 Money Supply.Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
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03-29-2008, 06:39 PM #36Senior Member ELITE MEMBER
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Read my lips, all politicians raise taxes. Originally Posted by clemson357
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03-29-2008, 06:41 PM #37Senior Member ELITE MEMBER
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Why not? Originally Posted by Irons77
What President hasn't in the last 30 years?
Yep. Originally Posted by danzik17
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03-29-2008, 11:54 PM #38Yuppie
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I have a friend who is my age getting payments from social security.
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03-30-2008, 12:12 AM #39Windy City ELITE MEMBER
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It's probably disability/SSI. Originally Posted by KentDog
I have a friend who is my age getting payments from social security.Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
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03-30-2008, 12:14 AM #40Yuppie
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Yep, he's a war vet. Originally Posted by Big Smoothy
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03-30-2008, 12:32 AM #41Windy City ELITE MEMBER
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If he's your age (I think you're in your 20s) he's like a Vet from Iraq or Afghanistan. Originally Posted by KentDog
I know Vietnam Vets that get some form of payment for PTSD.Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
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03-30-2008, 12:57 AM #42Yuppie
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Yes, he is 23 and a vet of the Iraq War. However, his "disability" is not physical. I'm not trying to downplay the trama caused by his time serving, but in my opinion he's fully capable of doing the same jobs he would have done had he not enlisted. Originally Posted by Big Smoothy
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03-30-2008, 01:02 AM #43Windy City ELITE MEMBER
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Is he getting disability for PTSD? Originally Posted by KentDog
Head trauma?
Psychological issues?
But not physicial injury/impairment?Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
Mark Twain
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03-30-2008, 11:56 AM #44Yuppie
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To be honest, I had not asked him what the social security payments were for specifically. I had just asked him in general why the hell he was getting it. I am under the assumption that it is for psychological issues, but even so, I still feel he is easily capable of doing the job he does now and is wanting to do in the future. He is already getting a check from the government once or twice a month in addition to his newly given social security check. He works for his parents who operate a business. He was telling me that in order to qualify for social security, his parents need to pay him less now, but he'll still end up with more and save his parents money. Here in lies the problem with me Originally Posted by Big Smoothy
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