min0 lee

But boy, what a week it was...

min0 lee

31 shot, 2 stabbed during weekend violence :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Metro & Tri-State

Make that 6 dead.

WillBrink

There's been a spike in violence in most major cities - as there typically is this time of year - but Chicago appears to have been the worst. It's gang on gang violence, but it sucks when non gang members get caught in the middle.

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Irons77

Gangs are stupid, who gives a fuck who in your "hood" or in your "area"

Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

soxmuscle

I couldn't believe this when I read it the other day because the parts of Chicago that I frequent are superb.

I can see ignorant fucktards like Danny getting manipulated into this shit, but these are grown ass men killing eachother. What a disgrace to the human race..

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lnvanry

meh...most of the violence was on the south side (blue island, south chicago) nothing new. 1 was on the west side...nothing new there either.

the 1 violent crime in that article that was on the northside was near the howard stop on the red line...which is a little ghetto oasis surrounded nice housing.

None of these crimes are out of the ordinary IMO...just a higher frequency but its still contained in the same dump.

lnvanry

here is neat site mapping out territory:

[ CHICAGOGANGS.ORG] CHICAGO GANG MAPS

you can click on the northside or southside maps...then click and drag to navigate across the city. As you may notice the area along the Lake, north of downtown, and the east of the Dan Ryan (I-90/94) is virtually gang free...anywhere else-

good luck

The Monkey Man

Thats all they have, they dont have money or anything nice..
Just a burned out piece of ghetto to stand on, and fight for...



(or they could move to tahiti)

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WillBrink

Of course the mayor is calling for yet more gun control, 'cause you know, it's worked so well so far...a good column on the topic:

April 24, 2008
Chicago's Misfire on Gun Violence
By Steve Chapman

When a rash of gun murders takes place, it makes sense for the police to do one of two things: renew tactics that have been effective in the past at curbing homicides, or embrace ideas that have not been tried before. But those options don't appeal to Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis. What he proposes is a crackdown on assault weapons.

I'm tempted to say this is the moral equivalent of a placebo -- a sugar pill that is irrelevant to the malady at hand. But that would be unfair. Placebos, after all, sometimes have a positive effect. Assault weapons bans, not so much.

If there are too many guns in Chicago, it's not because of any statutory oversight. The city has long outlawed the sale and possession of handguns. It also forbids assault weapons. If prohibition were the answer, no one would be asking the question.

The recent spate of killings gives a misleading impression. Since the peak years of the early 1990s, the number of murders in Chicago has fallen by more than half. In the first three months of this year, homicides were down by 1.1 percent. No one would describe the current murder rate as acceptable, but the city has made huge progress.

It has done so despite the alleged problem cited by Weis, which is the availability of guns, and particularly one type of gun. "There are just too many weapons here," he declared at a Sunday news conference. "Why in the world do we allow citizens to own assault rifles?"

Actually, in Chicago "we" don't allow citizens to own assault rifles. Elsewhere they are allowed for the same reason other firearms are permitted. The gun Weis villainized is a type of semiautomatic that has a fearsome military appearance but is functionally identical to many legal sporting arms.

And its bark is worse than its bite. As of March 31, there had been 87 homicides in the city. When I asked the Chicago Police Department how many of the murders are known to have involved assault rifles, the answer came back: one.

As it happens, we already have ample experience with laws against these guns. From 1994 to 2004, their manufacture and sale were banned under federal law. Yet the number of murders committed with rifles and shotguns began falling in 1991, three years before the law was enacted.

It's true that gun homicides also fell while the law was in effect. Does that prove the value of the ban? Not exactly, since stabbing deaths fell even faster, as did murders involving crowbars, baseball bats and other blunt objects. Obviously other factors were behind the improvement.

The irrelevance of the law was plain to see. In 2004, Tom Diaz, an official of the pro-gun control Violence Policy Center, said, "If the existing assault weapons ban expires, I personally do not believe it will make one whit of difference" in curbing gun violence.

No surprise there. Anyone with criminal intent had plenty of deadly options at hand. The so-called assault weapons, contrary to what you might assume, were no more powerful or lethal than other, unbanned guns. Not only that, but criminals, the people most likely to commit violent crimes, were completely unaffected by the ban -- for the simple reason that they are not allowed to buy or own guns of any kind.

As Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck notes, most criminals arm themselves by stealing guns or buying guns stolen by someone else. So new restrictions don't make much difference to them. The federal ban was a classic illustration of how gun control works. Law-abiding people who rarely misuse their guns were deprived of options. Ex-cons went on as before.

Why wouldn't a gun ban dry up the supply of firearms available to criminals? Three reasons: There are more than 200 million guns in private hands. They have a very long useful life. And it doesn't take many to supply the nation's bad guys with all the ordnance they need.

Gun control hasn't worked as a remedy for crime. So what makes anyone think the answer is more gun control?
schapman@tribune.com


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Splash Log

This people deserve a medal for being so self motivated and perpetuating Darwin's Theory.

I Are Baboon

I thought this thread was going to bo about Steve Bartman.

min0 lee

In the heat of a summer night
In the land of the dollar bill
When the town of Chicago died
And they talk about it still

When a man named Al Capone
Tried to make that town his own
And he called his gang to war
With the forces of the law

I heard my mama cry
I heard her pray the night Chicago died
Brother what a night it really was
Brother what a fight it really was
Glory be

I heard my mama cry
I heard her pray the night Chicago died
Brother what a night the people saw
Brother what a fight the people saw
Yes indeed

And the sound of the battle rang
Through the streets of the old east side
'Til the last of the hoodlum gang
Had surrendered up or died

There was shouting in the street
And the sound of running feet
And I asked someone who said
Bout a hundred cops are dead

I heard my mama cry
I heard her pray the night Chicago died
Brother what a night it really was
Brother what a fight it really was
Glory be!

I heard my mama cry
I heard her pray the night Chicago died
Brother what a night the people saw
Brother what a fight the people saw
Yes indeed

And ther was no sound at all
But the clock upon the wall
Then the door burst open wide
And my daddy stepped inside
And he kissed my mama's face
And he brushed her tears away

The night Chicago died
The night Chicago died
Brother what a night the people saw
Brother what a fight the people saw
Yes indeed

The night Chicago died
The night Chicago died
Brother what a night it really was
Brother what a fight it really was
Glory be

The night Chicago died
The night Chicago died
Brother what a night the people saw
Brother what a fight the people saw
Yes indeed

fletcher6490

I'm a delivery guy in Chicago, luckily on the northside. I have everything north of Irving Park, which seems to be pretty nice other than some shithole's around Sheridan. After a few times working in the southside, I know not to go to those areas unless I absolutely have to...Seems like the whole southside is a complete fucking nightmare.

Can't even remember the last time I was in the gym. I suck at life.