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05-13-2008, 01:40 PM #1Senior Member ELITE MEMBER
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So what are you doing in the market today DOMS since I know you will find this thread within 15 seconds.
Freaking down 0.09 more and my buy on BAC is triggered - FREAKING COME ON.Ron Paul 2012
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Ron Paul 2012
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He has failed you.
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Expect the same from him on Christmas.
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05-13-2008, 02:23 PM #5Metrosexual ELITE MEMBER
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I just placed an Iron Condor on KO. I like trading ICs on KO because it isn't tied to the economy so much and even when the Dow (or S&P) takes a dump, KO just putters along.
What I hoping is to take advantage of the slide by finding a good straddle.
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05-13-2008, 02:28 PM #6Metrosexual ELITE MEMBER
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Gah! And wouldn't you know it? The only stock whose prices is good for a straddle, CNW (Con-way) has too high an implied volatility! Grrr...
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Nah there are other people that like doing stocks too Originally Posted by Witchblade
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This is my 401k
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It's sad.
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The reason that it's sad is that (and I'm no expert on this) you can't short stocks in a 401k. That's the same reason why you don't invest in a mutual fund in a downward market. Originally Posted by min0 lee
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Why wouldn't you invest in a mutual fund in a downward market? It's the same principle as buying stocks sort of. Buy hurt funds that have good managers and sit for the long haul.
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Because if the overall market is going down, then the funds will be going down, too. I'm not willing to buy into an invest that's going to go down. Not even if it's only in the short term. Originally Posted by danzik17
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I was under the impression that to have a hedge fund even consider you, you need to have like 50k to invest. I don't have anywhere near that kind of money right now (just graduating college).
I guess that's where we differ though, I'm fully willing to take a hit in the short term for huge growth in the long term. That's why I've been buying BAC even though it is hurting a lot from all of the mortgage and credit problems - I can't see it failing and I feel that it will go up a lot in the long term. That and I locked in a pretty sweet yield by buying it so low.Ron Paul 2012
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I wouldn't be surprised. Hedge funds are considered, rightfully so, to be riskier than mutual funds. Originally Posted by danzik17
You're an investor, I'm a speculator. Very different time frames. Originally Posted by danzik17
I think that BAC is a decent investment because of the dividend. I just wonder if they can go on paying it. And yes, BAC isn't going anywhere. Worst case for a bank, or a brokerage Originally Posted by danzik17
, is that they'll be purchased by another.
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If you're looking for a good story of how bad a hedge fund can get, look up Long-Term Capital Management. The fund that almost ruined the world economy.
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They've already announced that they will not be cutting dividends this quarter, so we're set on that one.
What's really going to be the turning point is when the hundreds of billions of Fed loans to the banks come due I think in July or August. That will make or break BAC; if they didn't borrow too much then they will look like solid gold compared to the banks who are now knee deep in debt that they might not be able to pay back without selling off a lot of assets or raising more capital. If they play it right, BAC might be acquiring a ton of stuff for pennies on the dollar.Ron Paul 2012
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I take it that you've gone over the 10Ks and 10Qs? Listened to the last few conference calls?
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Not for over a month - this month I haven't had time to do anything but study and take finals. My buy price was pre-set from a while ago.
All of my ideas there are purely common sense ideas. BAC has the resources available to be purchasing CFC (which by the way, why the hell are THEY paying a dividend still?) so they will likely be able to purchase smaller divisions of other companies IF they go on sale.Ron Paul 2012
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