Thread: Buy a car, get a gun!

Otherwise known as the Drive-By Special.

Is it Danny's birthday or something?

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Now that's creative marketing:

Dealer Offers Free Gun With Car Purchase

BUTLER, Mo. -- A local car dealer is holding a controversial promotion involving guns.

Max Motors in Butler is offering anyone who buys a car the choice of $250 in gas or a free semi-automatic handgun.

Dealer Offers Free Gun With Car Purchase - Kansas City News Story - KMBC Kansas City

There's also a poll there to hit, At 65% pro right now.

I heard this guy on the radio, and when asked what he thought of some who might object, he said "around here we drive American cars, carry guns, and go to church."

Now that's some brass balls right there!

And no, I don't drive an American car or go to church....

The article is BS. A car dealership isn't an FFL-so they'd be violating a federal law. They'd be shut down in a day if that happened.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

The article is BS.

No, it's not. Try a little more research. I heard the dealer interviewed on NPR radio, it's all over the news, etc.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

A car dealership isn't an FFL-so they'd be violating a federal law. They'd be shut down in a day if that happened.

Again, perhaps research/read prior to making such comments:

"Moore said the dealership will hand the customer a certificate to get the gun, but you must pass a background check."

and

"The local police chief said he is OK with the promotion as long as the weapons aren't handed out at the dealership."

Thus, dealership is not acting as an FFL, etc.

Do any of us really drive american cars now? I drive a Ford 150 4wd, but I bet most of it is made overseas.

Think of all the free advertising he is getting.

Originally Posted by clemson357

Think of all the free advertising he is getting.

Dealer said vast majority are choosing the gun vs the gas.

I would to. Gas is dangerous, you could set something on fire.

I read about this,its no bs.I guess they get a $250 voucher to use at a local gun shop and thats how they get around actually giving them the gun.

Originally Posted by WillBrink

No, it's not. Try a little more research. I heard the dealer interviewed on NPR radio, it's all over the news, etc.



Again, perhaps research/read prior to making such comments:

"Moore said the dealership will hand the customer a certificate to get the gun, but you must pass a background check."

and

"The local police chief said he is OK with the promotion as long as the weapons aren't handed out at the dealership."

Thus, dealership is not acting as an FFL, etc.

There are a million things on news and television that are BS. A car dealership isn't an FFL, do you even know what that is? They can't issue background checks for firearms, nor can the sell them at their location. Giving someone a coupon for a gun store is the same thing as giving them a gift certificate. The dealership is 'giving' people guns, and they aren't selling them. So I don't see how the article is accurate in any way shape or form. Last but not least, $250 isn't enough to buy a new handgun.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

There are a million things on news and television that are BS.

True, and ths is not one of those things. Bother to research it yet? Here's there web site:

Max Motors New and Used Car Dealer - Buy a Car and get a Gun or Gas - Butler Missouri

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

A car dealership isn't an FFL, do you even know what that is?

Already explained above.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

They can't issue background checks for firearms, nor can the sell them at their location.

Already explained above. Repeating yourself does not change anything. We have already established the dealership is not acting as an FFL nor do they need to.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

Giving someone a coupon for a gun store is the same thing as giving them a gift certificate. The dealership is 'giving' people guns, and they aren't selling them.

And?

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

So I don't see how the article is accurate in any way shape or form. Last but not least, $250 isn't enough to buy a new handgun.

The article is accurate, it's your reading comprehension that seems to suck. "Customers can choose between a gun or a $250 (£125) gas card, but most so far have chosen the gun."

From the BBC:

BBC NEWS | Americas | US car dealer in free gun offer

NBC news:

Car Dealer Includes Free Gun With SUVs - Local News Story - WCAU | Philadelphia

etc, etc.

Originally Posted by WillBrink

True, and ths is not one of those things. Bother to research it yet? Here's there web site:

Max Motors New and Used Car Dealer - Buy a Car and get a Gun or Gas - Butler Missouri



Already explained above.



Already explained above. Repeating yourself does not change anything. We have already established the dealership is not acting as an FFL nor do they need to.



And?



The article is accurate, it's your reading comprehension that seems to suck. "Customers can choose between a gun or a $250 (£125) gas card, but most so far have chosen the gun."

From the BBC:

BBC NEWS | Americas | US car dealer in free gun offer

NBC news:

Car Dealer Includes Free Gun With SUVs - Local News Story - WCAU | Philadelphia

etc, etc.

You still don't seem to get it. READ THE HEADLINES. The ad is spun in a way to make it sound like if you purchase a car, you walk off the lot with a car and a handgun in your vehicle, which is not the case. They're giving gift certificates to stores. The headlines are worded that way to convince liberals that this dealership is including guns in their cars and people are driving off the lot with them, which is completely false.

This should be good.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

You still don't seem to get it. READ THE HEADLINES. The ad is spun in a way to make it sound like if you purchase a car, you walk off the lot with a car and a handgun in your vehicle, which is not the case. They're giving gift certificates to stores. The headlines are worded that way to convince liberals that this dealership is including guns in their cars and people are driving off the lot with them, which is completely false.

Talk about not getting it....

We are talking about MO here....they can carry...There is nothing wrong with driving an American car, carrying a gun, or going to church. If more of us were that simple mided the world would be a better place to live. I live in Chicago and people here for the most part are cold and fake...in MO I experienced nice people that you see what you get. They are willing to help someone in need without expecting something in return...they spank their children....just honest hard working people trying to make the best of life.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

You still don't seem to get it. READ THE HEADLINES.

Happy to, it was:

"Max Motors in Butler is offering anyone who buys a car the choice of $250 in gas or a free semi-automatic handgun."

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

The ad is spun in a way to make it sound like if you purchase a car, you walk off the lot with a car and a handgun in your vehicle, which is not the case

No, your brain spun it that way, the headline is correct (you get a gun if you buy a car from them) and YOU decided the headline meant you were handed a gun and you walked out of the dealership with it, which was covered repeatedly above, and you ignored.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

They're giving gift certificates to stores.

For a gun yes. Is this complicated for you? It's not rocket science son.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

The headlines are worded that way to convince liberals that this dealership is including guns in their cars and people are driving off the lot with them, which is completely false.

And if said liberals take all of 2 seconds to read the article, they will see that's not the case. It's also irrelevant, as the result is the same and said liberals are not going to be happy about it, some of whom are quoted in the news reports.

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Happy to, it was:

"Max Motors in Butler is offering anyone who buys a car the choice of $250 in gas or a free semi-automatic handgun."




No, your brain spun it that way, the headline is correct (you get a gun if you buy a car from them) and YOU decided the headline meant you were handed a gun and you walked out of the dealership with it, which was covered repeatedly above, and you ignored.



For a gun yes. Is this complicated for you? It's not rocket science son.



And if said liberals take all of 2 seconds to read the article, they will see that's not the case. It's also irrelevant, as the result is the same and said liberals are not going to be happy about it, some of whom are quoted in the news reports.

Do you know how media works? They use headlines to get points across -not articles. I read the article, but most people don't. They can get away with twisting the headlines around because they know that headlines are the only thing that most people read. They don't want to get sued, so they print the facts, or close to the facts in the actual article. The headlines are false, misleading, and will be blow out of proportion by most people.

hhmm.. get the car and gun then hold up the gas station and get free gas!

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

Do you know how media works?

Far better than you do, that's for sure. I have been in the media industry for 20 years now.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

They use headlines to get points across -not articles.

Exactly, and "buy car, get certificate to get a gun after background check and from a proper FFL" is not a headline that will attract readers.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

I read the article, but most people don't. They can get away with twisting the headlines around because they know that headlines are the only thing that most people read.

Such is life in modern society. Your point however is moot in this thread an conversation as already explained I don't know how many times now. The headlines were in fact totally accurate in fact, but readers will learn no guns are actually handed out at the dealership. Again, that's the media and life. Now, it's totally true the media has many times put up totally misleading and or false headlines that were totally wrong, and I don't disagree at all on that count, but this simply is not one of those times. Deal with it.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

They don't want to get sued, so they print the facts, or close to the facts in the actual article.

Proof you really don't know much about the media. In most cases, the media does not give a crap what the facts are and pay little attention to them...

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

The headlines are false, misleading, and will be blow out of proportion by most people.

People can do or think what ever they want, but the headlines are indeed true. Buy a car from the guy, and get a gun, period.