min0 lee

Jimmy Carter blows lid off Israel nukes



News Wire Services
Tuesday, May 27th 2008, 4:00 AM
LONDON - Loose lips, Jimmy. Loose lips.
Former President Jimmy Carter has revealed Israel holds at least 150 nuclear weapons - the first time a U.S. President has publicly acknowledged the Jewish state's atomic arsenal.
At a news conference in Wales Monday, Carter dropped the bomb while describing how tough it would be for Iran to build a nuclear arsenal. A former Israeli military intelligence chief criticized Carter's comments as "irresponsible."
"The problem is that there are those who can use these statements when it comes to discussing the international effort to prevent Iran getting nuclear weapons," said Aharon Zeevi-Farkash.
Carter, responding to a question, said, "The U.S. has more than 12,000 nuclear weapons, the Soviet Union Russia has about the same, Great Britain and France have several hundred, and Israel has 150 or more ..."
While the existence of Israeli nuclear weapons is widely assumed, Israeli officials have never admitted their existence, and U.S. officials have stuck to that line in public for years.

min0 lee

Irresponsible...yes, but I am glad he did say it.
I think we should lay off catering to the Israelis a bit.

DOMS

Good. I wonder if the rag heads will start to lay off the Israelis a bit now?

Oh, and someone really needs to put Jimmy down.

min0 lee

The guys right, they will definitely use this to push their need for nukes.

I guess the way they see is that the Israelis are more responsible with their nukes.

min0 lee

This is not the first time he's put his foot into his mouth.

DOMS

It started in 1976, I believe. He was addle brained then, and now he's gotten even worse. Why can't he hurry up and die?

Big Smoothy

Everybody has always known that Israel has nukes in Dimona. Israel is not a member of the AEA, either.

This is a non-story.

On another issue, but related to Zionism,

Carter got Hamas to engage dialogue about conditions for a peace agreement. The Israeli and American Zionists insist on not talking with Hamas - because they don't want to be given conditions for any Peace Agreement, because Israeli and US Zionists do not want a peace agreement. Israel should just come and say it, outright. That is their choice. But instead, they play the "we will not talk with, nor discuss any conditions for peace" (related to pre-1967).

It's not easy to read behind the lines - unless it's the American public.

Jimmy Carter rattled the Jewish and Christian Zionists, almost as bad as Norman Finklestein has. The only difference, is that Carter is Christian and not Jewish.

lnvanry

ditto....and the fact it is based on intel from the 70s makes it even more of a non story.

DOMS

Bullshit. He gave out privileged information that he received while president. That's treasonous.

bio-chem

don't former presidents still receive some sort of briefing?

DOMS

I don't know, but I bet they travel in circles where they hear "stuff" from time to time.

bio-chem

annual skulls meetings?

DOMS

I sent in my application. They turned me down. That said I was too liberal.

min0 lee

For the two you it may not mean much but I'm pretty sure Iran and company will use this as an excuse to carry nukes.

danzik17

Good, they have nukes. Can we stop sending them billions of dollars now? Please?

Ron Paul 2008

Journal: Boom goes the dynamite

bio-chem

what's a guy got to do to get some world domination around here?

lnvanry

maybe...but its won't hold under international scrutiny. Any further manufacturing of nukes is illegal under the NPT (including the US...we just have a huge stockpile).

I can agree with you Carter is an idiot, but let's not kid ourselves. Stating Israel has 50-200 nukes isn't privileged information. You seem to utilizing a talking point here.

DOMS

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot?

busyLivin

They don't need an excuse.. Nobody is doing anything to stop them. We've got a lame duck president and the peace-loving hippy tree huggers running Congress.

People have it too good here. Shame that it's going to take something big for people to wake up. Electing Obama might be the answer.. he's going to be a catastrophe... maybe even one big enough to rival Jimmy Carter.

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min0 lee

Thank you.

Big Smoothy

1. you need government documents to back up this claim.

2. you need to show that it is defined as "treasonous."

maniclion

Well if he can just blurt out anything then I'll tell you guys about all the intel I gathered while in the system.....

This one time we were flying routine patrols and when all of the sudden our pilots
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